Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#227520 Apr 28, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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RR does to language what DaveNelson does to science.
They both obfuscate so much that even they realize their arguments are invalid.

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#227521 Apr 28, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Yes they are answers. You disagree with them but they are still answers.
Where I come from, even no answer, is still an answer.
Grow up. Expand your horizons.
Why so pedantic? Seriously? The wrong answer is not an answer by some measures. Is there anything you won't argue about? You're ridiculous.

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#227522 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Humans can look to the stars, study the stars, someday maybe even travel to the stars, hell some people even worship the stars.
Can the stars look at humans?
Prove they can't. Go!

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#227523 Apr 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Ah, more reasoned debate from the 'rational atheist' oxymoron poster punk.
Smirk.
What exactly have you contributed here except the same ridiculous line?

Jesus is dying on the cross, and Peter is down the hill comforting Mary Magdalene when he hears Jesus' faint voice, "Peter... Peter..."

"I must go and help my Savior," he said and went up the hill, only to be beaten and kicked back down by the Roman centurions guarding the cross. But soon he hears, "Peter... Peter," in even fainter tones but he cannot ignore the call. Peter limps up the hill, leans a ladder against the cross, and gets halfway up when the centurions knock over the ladder, beats him brutally, and tosses him back down the hill.

Again he hears, "Peter... Peter..." ever fainter, and again, he cannot refuse his Lord. In pain, he slowly staggers up the hill, drags himself up the ladder, and finally gets even with Christ's face. Just as the centurions are reaching for the ladder, Jesus says, "Peter... Peter... look, I can see your house from here."

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#227524 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Humans can look to the stars, study the stars, someday maybe even travel to the stars, hell some people even worship the stars.

Can the stars look at humans?
No.

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#227525 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, I see. You'll believe the words of Tacitus regarding crucifixion, but not regarding Jesus.
Brilliant.
Because Tacitus was unreliable. Clement of Alexandria, at the beginning of the third century, made a compilation of all the recognitions of Christ and Christianity that had been made by Pagan writers up to his time. The writings of Tacitus furnished no recognition of them. The ecclesiastical historian Eusebius, in the fourth century, cites all the evidences of Christianity obtainable from Jewish and Pagan sources, but makes no mention of Tacitus. Tacitus was not quoted by any Christian author until the 15th Century. The only copy of Annals is from 600 years after Tacitus died. The story, in nearly the same words without any mention of a Christ, is found in the writings of Sulpicius Severus, a Christian of the fifth century.

Oh well.

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#227526 Apr 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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What a puusy.
Cheap shots while running from real questions.
You don't fool anyone honey.
Smile.
Cheap shot? It's in your book.

What question have you posed? Go ahead.

You hide behind anonymity and call me names, hypocrite. Besides, you forgot your tag line. You're getting weaker.

Go ahead, pose a question. I'll eviscerate it.

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#227527 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You sure it's not 13.77? 13.745? 13.23?
Your IQ? It's probably somewhere in that range.

RiversideRedneck

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#227528 Apr 28, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Because Tacitus was unreliable. Clement of Alexandria, at the beginning of the third century, made a compilation of all the recognitions of Christ and Christianity that had been made by Pagan writers up to his time. The writings of Tacitus furnished no recognition of them. The ecclesiastical historian Eusebius, in the fourth century, cites all the evidences of Christianity obtainable from Jewish and Pagan sources, but makes no mention of Tacitus. Tacitus was not quoted by any Christian author until the 15th Century. The only copy of Annals is from 600 years after Tacitus died. The story, in nearly the same words without any mention of a Christ, is found in the writings of Sulpicius Severus, a Christian of the fifth century.
Oh well.
Why should I believe the freethought website you plagiarized this from?

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/josephus.html

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#227529 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Tarzan say RR talk good.
Tarzan always right.
Make Tarzan sammich.
You don't know how to diagram a sentence nor can you defend your obfuscation pedantry. I understand.

I know you're hungry, fat boy, but I'm afraid the kitchen is closed.

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#227530 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I very clearly wrote that sentience is the ability to feel, see, hear, smell, or taste and be responsive to, or conscious of, sense impressions.
Since plants don't have the ability to feel, see, hear, smell, or taste and be responsive to, or conscious of, sense impressions, I fail to understand why you would ask me if plants are sentient.
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I'm an avid gardener Einstein. Plants do in fact respond to stimuli, or as you put it "sense impressions".
Ability to feel? Try researching if carrots really do scream when you pull them from their beds.
The root ends of plants actually FEEL their way around underground objects like rocks. Their growing tips actually contain and retain the ability to move up and down and from side to side in order to find a way to the nutrients they seek. If they find adequate nutrients just below ground level, they stop searching for food unless the source dries up. Then the roots begin searching again.

What do you suppose those vine plants are doing when they send out their "feelers" to secure the stalk to a trellis? Plants are trainable Einstein. I train the melons every year to climb the trellis. Within a matter of a couple minutes, I can prove to you that the plant actually felt it when it touched the wire and begins to physically wrap itself around the wire.

Again, are plants sentient sir?

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#227531 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya that's how they write it in the UK.
I'm not in the UK.....
Thank God.
Actually, no. In the Oxford dictionary, from the UK, ahem, fairytale and fairy-tale are acceptable. In the US, according to Webster, it is a hyphenated modifier and written as fairy-tale.

You have never owned a passport. How can you possibly disparage a place you have never been. The UK is wonderful.

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#227532 Apr 28, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Note that Josephus never mentions Paul or the existence of a Roman Catholic Church in Rome. By their own arguments, Paul nor a unified church existed, thus the whole of Christianity is built on a massive lie.
Dumbazz Christers hoisted by their own petard.
It's all so sad.

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#227533 Apr 28, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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It is a theory. It is called a theory even by the scientists promoting the theory.
<smile>
What proof do you have of the origin of the speech gene? From what "lower" life form does it originate? Why does it not exist in any other life form aside from homo sapien on this planet?
The theory is still full of holes. You know that too.
Here, go argue with these guys.

http://www.livescience.com/7973-human-speech-...

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#227534 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why should I believe the freethought website you plagiarized this from?
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/josephus.html
Uh, that's not plagiarism, silly. This is just an insignificant forum, a game. You can believe whatever you want.

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#227535 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, I see. You'll believe the words of Tacitus regarding crucifixion, but not regarding Jesus.
Brilliant.
Wrong and you know it, you fukinliar.

I believe Jesus existed.
I just don't believe all the lies your religion made up about him 300 years after he was crucified.

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#227536 Apr 28, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
number four wrote:
<quoted text> ....My Dad ,can beat-up your Dad ...!
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Interesting.
"Easy" you say?
Hardly.
It is impossible.
No. If he can beat a dead horse, he can beat up my dead father. Ashes don't put up much of a fight.

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#227537 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Humans can look to the stars, study the stars, someday maybe even travel to the stars, hell some people even worship the stars.
Can the stars look at humans?
I see you have changed your stance on illegal drugs.

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#227538 Apr 28, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>They both obfuscate so much that even they realize their arguments are invalid.
I think they are too stupid to realize how stupid they are.

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#227539 Apr 28, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Because Tacitus was unreliable. Clement of Alexandria, at the beginning of the third century, made a compilation of all the recognitions of Christ and Christianity that had been made by Pagan writers up to his time. The writings of Tacitus furnished no recognition of them. The ecclesiastical historian Eusebius, in the fourth century, cites all the evidences of Christianity obtainable from Jewish and Pagan sources, but makes no mention of Tacitus. Tacitus was not quoted by any Christian author until the 15th Century. The only copy of Annals is from 600 years after Tacitus died. The story, in nearly the same words without any mention of a Christ, is found in the writings of Sulpicius Severus, a Christian of the fifth century.
Oh well.
Tacitus doesn't mention Jesus at all. He mentions Christians who he says are named after their leader 'Christus' who was crucified by Pilate.
Tacitus is just one of many early sources that demonstrate the existence of a "crucified Jew" as the focal point of a religious movement in Rome. They do not demonstrate anything at all about the divinity of Jesus nor the validity of a single religious claim.

We can assume that George Washington existed, that can never prove he was God, that he "slept here" or even that he ever chopped down a cherry tree.

If we had 100% proof that Jesus existed and was crucified by Pilate, it would do nothing to validate a single religious claim about him.

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