Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#220311 Mar 19, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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is somebody mad at cwistianity cuz they were offended by a cwistian who happens to be human just wike your witto self?
did they make fun of your pictuw in sunday schoow like a kid did to marilyn manson and now he hates cwistians toooooo sniffowwe....booh whooo whoooo.:-(
wtf?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#220312 Mar 19, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Ask Clearwater and KiMare. They spend most of their time imagining it.
Based on what I experience here, it's nothing more than an Obama red line...

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#220313 Mar 19, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Why not? Your standards for belief are lower than that.
Science has an uncounted number of successes under its belt. Your bible and church not so much.
You mean like figuring out the Big Bang 5000 years before science did?

LOL

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#220314 Mar 19, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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It's an amazing coincidence how your god always seems to make the choice that would be the case if there were no god. Whenever and wherever he could manifest in some clear way, he chooses not to. That's a pretty strange strategy for a god that we are told wants to be known, loved, and worshiped by man.
That's funny, a lot of people don't have the trouble you do.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#220315 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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This was not the argument – however communism is a political concept of nationalism. Atheist is 'not theist', a rejection of belief in gods, the two are not synonymous.
However many christians (and other gobots) chose to deceive themselves solely on the basis that some forms of communism reject the church completely while others promote the state above the church thus diminishing their belief for the power of their myth. In this is the way of all modern political systems with the exception of Islam.
“A common complaint made by theists, typically those of the fundamentalist variety, is that atheism and/or humanism are essentially socialist or communist in nature. Thus, atheism and humanism should be rejected since socialism and communism are evil. Evidence indicates that bigotry and prejudice towards atheists in America is due in no small part to anti-communist activism by conservatives Christians in America, so this claimed connection has had serious consequences for American atheists.”
Read the rest at http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismmyths/a/Co...
You need to take this in perspective and consider that in China, a communist country comprising of over 50% believers of some religion or other less then 50% atheist or agnostic there are far more believers in a deity than the entire population of the united states.
And Russia, another communist country the difference is closer still to the US with over 80% of the population religious in some way compared to 13% atheist (and a few sitting on the fence)
Some of the Latin American countries have communist style governments and yet are predominantly catholic. Go figure.
Only a godbot would ignore the glaring facts
I knew Stalin. He told me he didn't believe in God.

You are a really dumb blonde.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#220316 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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So you are saying that they should molest children and then cry religion when they are caught?
And you also seem to be saying that priest who rape children are not offenders.
Honey give up now before you dig yourself a hole so deep that you can’t hide under your religion
Stalin told me blondes were his easiest dupes. I really think you knew him too!

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#220317 Mar 19, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
KiMare wrote:
1. They are not really searching.
2. There is no God.
3. There is a God who does not want to know them.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
It screams, "You're not good enough. Something is inherently wrong with you. I don't care about your hopes, fears or pain. You are a reject."
This toxic rationale is the polar opposite of humanism and spirituality.
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Darwin thought all species were part of The Tree Of Life. I agree with him. If there is a God,(s)he would not consider humans separate from other species, everything would be part of creation.
If an organism seeks this Creator and is rejected,(s)He would consider it subpar, not good enough, correct?
If all life is the perfect expression of an omnipotent Creator, nothing is faulty. Your claim that a God might not want to know something or someone means (s)He finds fault with a part of this perfect creation therefore a perfect Creator cannot be perfect.
You believe in 'The Tree of Life'? Have you met It?

You see humans as the same as animals? We all exist under the Law of the Jungle?

Why do all dogs go to heaven, but cats are from hell???

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#220318 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yup, that explained it.
"One explanation might be that biology textbooks, which are often authored by non-experts, are generally junk, always out of step and unrepresentative of the latest science."
Of course, you left out the rest.

"One explanation might be that biology textbooks, which are often authored by non-experts, are generally junk, always out of step and unrepresentative of the latest science. But not only is this not true, it does nothing to explain the increasing popularity of Haeckel’s drawings from the early to the middle of the twentieth century, nor the continued influence of his iconic scheme today.

Let’s dig a little deeper and see if we can find some real answers."
http://www.textbookhistory.com/haeckels-embry...

Much of the problem was the publishers of the books who failed to update their info, and much of that was due to not having to pay royalties for illustrations.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#220319 Mar 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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I am not a fascist dictator who was raised a christian so I can only guess, In the same circumstances and the same education I would probably have done what Stalin did – turn to god.
Don't you find it interesting how Stalin followed the Beatitudes?

Oh, and the Blondes!

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#220320 Mar 19, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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I was never taught that.
But I WAS taught that snakes talked, all the animals in the world fit on a boat, donkeys talk (asses still do), some dude was beat near to death, nailed to a cross and thrown in a cave and walked out just fine and dandy 3 days later.
And you're bitching about a moth?
WTF?!
Yeah, and a near senile old jackass kicked your ass on here.

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“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#220321 Mar 19, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Not at all.
Apparently that award is given for being caught running a gay prostitution ring out of your house.
Ah, there's our good ol' homophobic Buck.

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#220322 Mar 19, 2014
River Tam wrote:
wtf?
Slippery stairs?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#220323 Mar 19, 2014
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text> Of course, you left out the rest.
"One explanation might be that biology textbooks, which are often authored by non-experts, are generally junk, always out of step and unrepresentative of the latest science. But not only is this not true, it does nothing to explain the increasing popularity of Haeckel’s drawings from the early to the middle of the twentieth century, nor the continued influence of his iconic scheme today.
Let’s dig a little deeper and see if we can find some real answers."
http://www.textbookhistory.com/haeckels-embry...
Much of the problem was the publishers of the books who failed to update their info, and much of that was due to not having to pay royalties for illustrations.
The sciences advance faster than publishers can keep up.

At PSU I was taking an undergraduate and graduate biology course at the same time. The undergraduate text was 20 years behind the graduate one. It contained a few things that were later clarified, corrected and improved on in the years since it was published.
Even today, some of the research we were working on 15 years ago is still unpublished and some even kept secret for ethical reasons (the public would not be able to handle certain facts discovered).

For example, almost every act of unprotected sex while a woman is ovulating results in a conception followed by an almost spontaneous (within a week) miscarriage.
This a reason why home pregnancy tests are designed to detect a pregnancy after a week or more. Most of the "false pregnancies" reported are actually miscarriages. Doctors don;t reveal this to the women because it would be too traumatic to know how many miscarriages they have had.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

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#220324 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That doesn't excuse science lying to the population and making shit up.

Most people have heard of or been taught the idea that the human embryo goes through various evolutionary stages, such as having gills like a fish, a tail like a monkey, etc., during the first few months that it develops in the womb.

The idea has not only been presented to generations of biology/medical students as fact, but has also been used for many years to persuasively justify abortion.

But that's a lie. Haeckel manufactured the data. He fraudulently changed drawings made by other scientists of human and dog embryos.

http://www.google.com/imgres ...

[QUOTE who="Aerobatty"]< quoted text>
I was never taught that.
But I WAS taught that snakes talked, all the animals in the world fit on a boat, donkeys talk (asses still do), some dude was beat near to death, nailed to a cross and thrown in a cave and walked out just fine and dandy 3 days later.
And you're bitching about a moth?
WTF?!
RR has a grain of truth and a whole lot of BS in that post. But trying to straighten RR out on what is fact and what is fiction would just be wasted effort. A dimwitted hamster would learn faster.

I think RR gets most of his "information" about evolution from Chick Tracts. LOL

“"None shall pass"”

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#220325 Mar 19, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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RR has a grain of truth and a whole lot of BS in that post. But trying to straighten RR out on what is fact and what is fiction would just be wasted effort. A dimwitted hamster would learn faster.
I think RR gets most of his "information" about evolution from Chick Tracts. LOL
"Lies are often wrapped in a skin of truth"
RiversideRedneck

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#220326 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:

That doesn't excuse science lying to the population and making shit up.

Most people have heard of or been taught the idea that the human embryo goes through various evolutionary stages, such as having gills like a fish, a tail like a monkey, etc., during the first few months that it develops in the womb.

The idea has not only been presented to generations of biology/medical students as fact, but has also been used for many years to persuasively justify abortion.

But that's a lie. Haeckel manufactured the data. He fraudulently changed drawings made by other scientists of human and dog embryos.

http://www.google.com/imgres ...
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
RR has a grain of truth and a whole lot of BS in that post. But trying to straighten RR out on what is fact and what is fiction would just be wasted effort. A dimwitted hamster would learn faster.
I think RR gets most of his "information" about evolution from Chick Tracts. LOL
Oh.

Please specify which parts of that post were "a whole lot of BS".

Go.
RiversideRedneck

Whittier, CA

#220327 Mar 19, 2014
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text> Of course, you left out the rest.
"One explanation might be that biology textbooks, which are often authored by non-experts, are generally junk, always out of step and unrepresentative of the latest science. But not only is this not true, it does nothing to explain the increasing popularity of Haeckel’s drawings from the early to the middle of the twentieth century, nor the continued influence of his iconic scheme today.
Let’s dig a little deeper and see if we can find some real answers."
http://www.textbookhistory.com/haeckels-embry...
Much of the problem was the publishers of the books who failed to update their info, and much of that was due to not having to pay royalties for illustrations.
You're trying to justify people putting junk, disproven, obsolete science in kid's science books?!?

There's no way to justify that.

The reason is: they (people like you) desperately want to indoctrinate our youth into science and away from religion, no matter the cost.

They lie. Menstrual cycle.
RiversideRedneck

Whittier, CA

#220328 Mar 19, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
Not at all.
Apparently that award is given for being caught running a gay prostitution ring out of your house.
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
Ah, there's our good ol' homophobic Buck.
Ah.

So running a gay prostitution ring out of your house is pro-homosexual.

Probably a lucrative business....

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

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#220329 Mar 19, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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"Lies are often wrapped in a skin of truth"
sausage?
Anon

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#220330 Mar 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Buck Crick wrote:
Not at all.
Apparently that award is given for being caught running a gay prostitution ring out of your house.
<quoted text>
Ah.
So running a gay prostitution ring out of your house is pro-homosexual.
Probably a lucrative business....
Why are you grey boxing?

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