Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#218384 Mar 11, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>threads flying all of a sudden and I'm heading out soon
But let you a couples responses to the Numbers post if u get a chance to clarify
Numbers 31. Very aggressive, violent, even obscene, unless you want to pretend the Midianite virgins were merely passed around for domestic chores. INT? Relatively passive. Punishment will await those in the afterlife. The canon tends to follow reality on the ground at the time of its writing.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#218385 Mar 11, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes I did, I watched the video.
He took 2 pieces off of the mousetrap and changed it into a tie clip, a paperweight or a spitwad thrower.
he buried himself because he proved that the irreducible complexity of the simple mousetrap demonstrates that if you remove one of the five components, it's no longer a mousetrap.
<quoted text>
Why? I answered you. I told you that many pieces of that arch could be removed and it'd still stand. I also told you that it's a natural thing. Learn to read entire posts.
Miller's example took an already complex system and made it less complex.

IC doesn't say anything about whether you can go from a functioning complex system to a functioning simpler one.

IC also says nothing about whether component parts can have a function.

The Behe mousetrap analogy assumes what evolution assumes - sequential addition from simple to complex.

Miller's story amounts to the same as proving a feather could evolve sequentially by taking a complete feather, stripping it, and using the shaft for a toothpick.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#218386 Mar 11, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
The term CSI and it's meaning is unfalsifiable, the accusation of certain systems of being so , such as the flagellum motor has been falsified. Above here you are playing with words and determining a meaning, but not necessarily the right meaning. Aside the fact the author is not the supreme authority , and we are discussing the authors opinion. Which mean He said she said "blah blah blah" It doesn't make anything IR.
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Irreducible complexity of the flagellum has not been falsified. You don't know what you're talking about.
Irreducible complexity is argumentum ad ignorantiam and is subsequently blown out the water by the research below..

http://www.ciliajournal.com/content/2/1/14

http://jb.asm.org/content/176/14/4219

http://www.pnas.org/content/104/17/7116.long

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2651416

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#218387 Mar 11, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm 6'3", depending on what liquor store I'm walking out of.
Buck's something like 6'6".
Safe to say, we destroyed the scarves...
Don't worry, you still have Catcher's AMEX card, yes?
.. RR tosses a coin ..

<< HL yells, "Heads up." >>

.. for years, posters have wondered why I adore Catcher, it makes no sense to them. I mean, a lesbian delighting in a heterosexual man, an ambulance-chaser to boot ??..

.. RR tosses coin. Again ..

<< HL yells, "Tails." >>

.. I also adore Buck, it's still the same coin ..

.. RR tosses coin. Again ..

<< HL yells, "Tails." >>

.. I'm crazy mad about RR ..

.. why ??..

.. you make me think and feel, expose a part of self. I'm OK with all of you, even SKOM ..

P.S. I'm particularly partial to Catcher, it's his American Express card. Any insight into how I can obtain Buck's pin number?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#218389 Mar 11, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Numbers 31. Very aggressive, violent, even obscene, unless you want to pretend the Midianite virgins were merely passed around for domestic chores. INT? Relatively passive. Punishment will await those in the afterlife. The canon tends to follow reality on the ground at the time of its writing.
Its possible

It wouldn't even necessarily conflict with what I believe either as I think Jesus came at a time man was at least at a point that he would be receptive to a message of peace. Some anyway. So it would make sense if it was a more passive time comparatively speaking
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#218390 Mar 11, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Your wife seemed to like my double-wide.
I don't have a wife, dummy.

And my girlfriend isn't all that keen on hill-jacks.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#218391 Mar 11, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. RR tosses a coin ..
<< HL yells, "Heads up." >>
.. for years, posters have wondered why I adore Catcher, it makes no sense to them. I mean, a lesbian delighting in a heterosexual man, an ambulance-chaser to boot ??..
.. RR tosses coin. Again ..
<< HL yells, "Tails." >>
.. I also adore Buck, it's still the same coin ..
.. RR tosses coin. Again ..
<< HL yells, "Tails." >>
.. I'm crazy mad about RR ..
.. why ??..
.. you make me think and feel, expose a part of self. I'm OK with all of you, even SKOM ..
P.S. I'm particularly partial to Catcher, it's his American Express card. Any insight into how I can obtain Buck's pin number?
"The Dance Pole" in Raywick Ky has it.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#218392 Mar 11, 2014
Edit Chess

I mean obviously the part of whether the message was from God or made up by man conflicts but both scenarios would explain the drastic difference in teaching both in how God handled man and how man was to act and why

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#218393 Mar 11, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. SKOM is a total mess; but, sociopath? Perhaps you're more insightful than myself ??..
.. call me the cockeyed optimist; I still think there's a glimmer of hope but the ego defense system in this one is strong ..
Classical right man and egotistical maniac fueled by a wreathing slosh of fallacies most always presented by to appeal to authority and ending badly with ad hominems.
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#218394 Mar 11, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Its possible
It wouldn't even necessarily conflict with what I believe either as I think Jesus came at a time man was at least at a point that he would be receptive to a message of peace. Some anyway. So it would make sense if it was a more passive time comparatively speaking
Possibly.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#218395 Mar 11, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>I think he is too convinced there is some sort of central coordinated cultural ideology and message that all churches agree to perpetuate.
As we know it is much more individual than that. Even the RCC that will pretty much control that what is being taught is consistent with cannon, anything taught outside of scripture is pretty much the personal opinion of the priest
Still not sure how he thinks the church somehow creates deviant behavior but I'd imagine it is somehow connected to the overall idea that bad things are being funneled through the faith into society. In this case I honestly don't even follow the rationale
Hell yes IANS thinks that. He calls it "the church" and swears that all Christian churches teach the exact same thing. It's ludicrous.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#218396 Mar 11, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Miller's example took an already complex system and made it less complex.
IC doesn't say anything about whether you can go from a functioning complex system to a functioning simpler one.
IC also says nothing about whether component parts can have a function.
The Behe mousetrap analogy assumes what evolution assumes - sequential addition from simple to complex.
Miller's story amounts to the same as proving a feather could evolve sequentially by taking a complete feather, stripping it, and using the shaft for a toothpick.
Yessir.

Miller's obviously a fool and fooling other fools.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#218397 Mar 11, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. RR tosses a coin ..
<< HL yells, "Heads up." >>
.. for years, posters have wondered why I adore Catcher, it makes no sense to them. I mean, a lesbian delighting in a heterosexual man, an ambulance-chaser to boot ??..
.. RR tosses coin. Again ..
<< HL yells, "Tails." >>
.. I also adore Buck, it's still the same coin ..
.. RR tosses coin. Again ..
<< HL yells, "Tails." >>
.. I'm crazy mad about RR ..
.. why ??..
.. you make me think and feel, expose a part of self. I'm OK with all of you, even SKOM ..
P.S. I'm particularly partial to Catcher, it's his American Express card. Any insight into how I can obtain Buck's pin number?
It's lost in translation...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#218398 Mar 11, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Classical right man and egotistical maniac fueled by a wreathing slosh of fallacies most always presented by to appeal to authority and ending badly with ad hominems.
LOL

I knew it wouldn't take long for your obsession with me!

You need a girlfriend

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#218399 Mar 11, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Possibly.
im multitasking so my concentration is split

At first I was like "I'm surprised he thinks so"

But it was the 'possible' thing right?

Thought I had a convert there for a sec!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#218401 Mar 11, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell yes IANS thinks that. He calls it "the church" and swears that all Christian churches teach the exact same thing. It's ludicrous.
I half suspect he has kind of sold himself on that idea because he knows there would be no practical way to identify and isolate the individual churches he would consider as 'guilty' and is willing to sacrifice the good ones to get the bad ones as part of an overall good to his way of thinking. I can understand the temptation but I think for a goal to be truly noble it can't take those shortcuts. And including pedophilia is simply going too far. If he wants to attack ideas not people then do just that. Attack the idea that certain things people excuse in the name of religion is bad and those specific subjects. Don't just cast a wide net. It isn't fair and I don't even think it'd be as effective. People would embrace change when a bad way if thinking is challenged. Not nearly so much with going after everything an entire group because some people in it think that way

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#218402 Mar 11, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. SKOM is a total mess; but, sociopath? Perhaps you're more insightful than myself ??..
.. call me the cockeyed optimist; I still think there's a glimmer of hope but the ego defense system in this one is strong ..
Oh, I wasn't talking about Skom. It was either Bucky or RR.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#218403 Mar 11, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have a wife, dummy.
And my girlfriend isn't all that keen on hill-jacks.
That's what she tells you. She was singing a different tune the other night.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#218404 Mar 11, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>LOL
I knew it wouldn't take long for your obsession with me!
You need a girlfriend
Women get me in trouble with my wife, but obsessed with you?
Hardly, you're no more than a passing curiosity, the doggy in the window.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#218405 Mar 11, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Instead of scarves you ought to move to tablecloths
At least that way you can bring something to the table
:)
LOL

Clever.

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