Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#218099 Mar 10, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
Protein chains form naturally.
Got another?
Try to not make it something that you claim is designed just because you can't imagine any other way.
That just demonstrates the limits of your imagination.
Protein chains aren't DNA.

If you can't answer the question, just scroll. I'll understand.

“Ditat Deus”

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#218100 Mar 10, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
There's a flaw in that hypothesis - we know that complex and specified systems are produced by Nature, chemstry and physics also.
The only honest approach is to say "Wow, that's complex. Let's look and see how it happened".
Starting out with a deity - or a designer - is dishonest.
The question for ID scientists is "how was the specified pattern of complexity written?"

I don't believe a puddle of goop could flourish into life without the assistance of a designer. I believe that designer is God.

“Ditat Deus”

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#218101 Mar 10, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
Slavery is now illegal in America.
Slavery is not even considered immoral according to the Bible.
The Old Testament laws actually forbade the kind of slavery that happened in America.

Exodus 21:16
Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.

It's too bad the ignorant slave owners of the time didn't realize that.

But slavery in Biblical times was far different than the slavery of the past few hundred years. Slavery was more of a social status than anything, people would volunteer into slavery to pay off debts or feed their families. Hell, back then even some doctors and lawyers were slaves, it had nothing to to with nationality or skin color.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#218102 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Make up your mind on you opinion before spouting it.
"It claims to be written by god"
"It claims to be written by god through his chosen ones"
Which is it?
Neither.

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#218103 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Your DNA.
Wanna start with that?
Do you have any theories of how it came to be?
I'll defer to you, dropout.

Go ahead, publish your theories.

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#218104 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Vamos a probar esto, para la gente con problemas lik que no saben discernir edad, de nuevo, adeudados de pagado, incompletas y completas.
Aquí hay una ley. Saber de dónde viene?
"Si algún esclavo resiste a su amo, corregir tal esclavo, y deberá pasar a ser asesinados en dicha corrección el capitán deberá estar libre de todo tipo de castigo, como si tal accidente nunca hubiera ocurrido."
Es una ley. Está escrito. Es estadounidense.
Usted es americano.
Por lo tanto, de acuerdo con Topix Ateo! lógica, debe seguir esa ley y debe poseer un esclavo.
Apology accepted.
I would have accepted Spanish also.

But what you have done here is to use some sort of translator that makes no grammatical sense at all.

Where did you get it?

And this is twice now that you have a accepted an apology I didn't make.

You're the apologist, remember?

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#218105 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't read very well. He wrote:
"The question being pursued by scientists who investigate design is whether the universe and living things indicate design."
Hope that helps.
It's of no help at all, dropout.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#218106 Mar 10, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I would have accepted Spanish also.
But what you have done here is to use some sort of translator that makes no grammatical sense at all.
Where did you get it?
And this is twice now that you have a accepted an apology I didn't make.
You're the apologist, remember?
In fact, you apologized twice.

"Sorry, but your post makes no sense to me."

"Sorry dude. Those are facts"

You're too stupid to understand that apologetics has nothing to do with apologizing.

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#218107 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Protein chains aren't DNA.
If you can't answer the question, just scroll. I'll understand.
The only things you understand are racism, homophobia, misogyny, and violence toward the vulnerable, dropout.

Oh, you're also a good googler, I'll give you that, you ignorant simpleton.

“Ditat Deus”

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#218108 Mar 10, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
It's of no help at all, dropout.
Only because your reading skills are comparable to that of a 3rd grader.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#218109 Mar 10, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
I'll defer to you, dropout. Go ahead, publish your theories.
Ever done rototiller racing? It's fun. I mean, there's no naked men in a shower, but you should still check it out.

Since: Jan 11

United States

#218110 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
2. Hypothesis that if a natural object was designed, it will contain high levels of complex and specified information.
<quoted text>
Why do you think it's invalid?
It's an argument from ignorance.

“Ditat Deus”

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#218111 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Protein chains aren't DNA.
If you can't answer the question, just scroll. I'll understand.
Catcher1 wrote:
The only things you understand are racism, homophobia, misogyny, and violence toward the vulnerable, dropout. Oh, you're also a good googler, I'll give you that, you ignorant simpleton.
You refute with another ad hominem?

You know how much I love those....

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#218112 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Protein chains aren't DNA.
If you can't answer the question, just scroll. I'll understand.
<quoted text>
You refute with another ad hominem?
You know how much I love those....
You are worthy of no more.

“Ditat Deus”

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#218113 Mar 10, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
You are worthy of no more.
Thanks, pumpkin.

“Ditat Deus”

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#218114 Mar 10, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
It's an argument from ignorance.
Oh.

Why?

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#218115 Mar 10, 2014
Another religious dilemma:

Subject: Talmudic Wisdom

A well respected San Francisco psychoanalyst raises the following
question in the hopes that Talmudic scholars might think more about it:

Is it okay for Jews to take Viagra on Shabbat?
One rabbi says that Jewish law forbids the ingestion of Viagra on
Shabbat, lest one violate the infraction of erecting a structure on the Sabbath.

But another rabbi says that as a medication which adds pleasure to the
Sabbath (not to mention the rest of the week), it is permissible.
However, taking Viagra is taboo during Passover - as well as any other agent that
causes things to rise.

Which raises (you'll excuse the expression) yet another question:
What braucha [blessing] does an observant Jew say before taking the
Viagra pill?

There is a choice of three:

1. Boruch Atah HaShem zokeif kfuffim
-- Bless you Lord for straightening those who are bent.

2. Boruch Atah HaShem yaaleh vyavo
-- Bless you Lord for causing things to arise and come.

3. Boruch Atah HaShem mechayei hameitim
--Bless you Lord for raising the dead.

Since: Jan 11

United States

#218116 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Oh.
"The whole Bible says that."
M'kay, pumpkin.
Tell me, where does it say in Genesis 1:1 that Christians should own slaves?
In Genesis 1:1, you'll notice the absence of a moral condemnation of slavery. You'll notice this in the whole Bible.

If you are to believe that the Bible is the last word on morality, the Bible tells you that you can own slaves, provided you follow the regulations for slave ownership.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#218117 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Make up your mind on you opinion before spouting it.

"It claims to be written by god"
"It claims to be written by god through his chosen ones"

Which is it?
More lame semantics.

Your dog won't hunt.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#218118 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Huh.

So the belief that there are no deities is natural and has nothing to do with being manmade?

Explain that one.
More semantics.

Your desperation is showing.

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