Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

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#218001 Mar 10, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>Come on, Buck.

Let's not go there. The Supreme Court has NOT said atheism IS a religion, and you know it. For purposes of the First Amendment, it has the same protections afforded religions. But believe me, I'm not going to listen to crap about atheism being a religion.

I will thank you for some intellectual honesty if you want to discuss with me.

If you won't be intellectually honest, talk to the Redneck instead.
You have very high hopes, considering buck's consistent and persistent dishonesty.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#218002 Mar 10, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Lame.
Something not good has happened to Buck.

Maybe something has gone haywire in his personal life.

But for sure, he's not the Buck of a year ago.

He has become humorless, negative and more pedantic.

RiversideRedneck

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#218003 Mar 10, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
Hmm. Okay - if your designer is not a deity what is it? Aliens?
C'mon, son, that's deliberate obfuscation.
See how the Topix Atheist! swears that ID is talking about a deity even thought the ID doesn't make that claim.

The incandescent light bulb was designed. Would you say it takes God to do that?

Maybe they'll put God in their theory, if and when God allows them to test Him.

RiversideRedneck

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#218004 Mar 10, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
Certainly not a dropout.
So then someone like Thomas Edison can't make that determination...

Or Bill Gates?

Albert Einstein?

John Rockefeller?

Walt Disney?

Charles Dickens?

Or what about your patriarch, Charles Darwin? he "only" had a degree in theology, called Divinity back then....

You seem to place so much importance on people that did not drop out, what about people like these?

RiversideRedneck

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#218005 Mar 10, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. your compadre, Thing #2, has returned; the one who will teach me a lesson with his fists. Let the good times roll ..
Ka-Pow!

SPLATT!

ZLOPP!

WHOOOSH!

Are you injured yet?

RiversideRedneck

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#218006 Mar 10, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Fortunately, Christians often act in contradiction to what the Bible says.
Oh no.... More Topix Atheist! nonsense...

Ok, tell me where the Bible says that I, a Christian, can (or should) own a slave.

Go.

RiversideRedneck

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#218007 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:

1. Observation that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information.
Aerobatty wrote:

Ok
You're right.
It hasn't even risen to the observation level yet.
So tell me...what WOULD its value be?
And what/who-whatever-is the so-called designer?
Really? You disagree that it has not been observed that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information?

What are you smoking over there?

RiversideRedneck

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#218008 Mar 10, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
Thanks for sharing your religious belief.
Praise Darwin.
no, no, no, no, no

That was AssBatty's "non-belief"........

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

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#218009 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh no.... More Topix Atheist! nonsense...
Ok, tell me where the Bible says that I, a Christian, can (or should) own a slave.
Go.
There are plenty. How about we start with Leviticus 25:44-46:

"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way."

You seem to think that being a Christian exempts you from the Hebrew Bible. Please show me where Jesus said that any of the laws of the Hebrew Bible were rescinded.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#218010 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
1. Observation that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information.
<quoted text>
Really? You disagree that it has not been observed that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information?
What are you smoking over there?
What objective observational evidence for an intelligent designer which created the universe is there?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#218011 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
So then someone like Thomas Edison can't make that determination...
Or Bill Gates?
Albert Einstein?
John Rockefeller?
Walt Disney?
Charles Dickens?
Or what about your patriarch, Charles Darwin? he "only" had a degree in theology, called Divinity back then....
You seem to place so much importance on people that did not drop out, what about people like these?
OK then, I'll disqualify you on other grounds.

How many of these guys were/are racists, mysogynists, homophobes? How many have hit six-month-old babies and women? How many have attacked motorists with a deadly weapon? How many are/were ignorant and made no contribution to society?

All the people you cite made something of themselves in the world, contributed to society.

You're just an ignorant dropout who contributes nothing.

Appeal to Buck for sympathy; no sale here.

I do congratulate you for an excellent google.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#218012 Mar 10, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
There are plenty. How about we start with Leviticus 25:44-46:
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way."
You seem to think that being a Christian exempts you from the Hebrew Bible. Please show me where Jesus said that any of the laws of the Hebrew Bible were rescinded.
I know the canned answer to this one.

This was for the Levites.

It's not of general application.

WOW, I'm becoming a Bible expert and I've never opened the book (except when I'm out of rolling papers in a hotel room).

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#218013 Mar 10, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I know the canned answer to this one.
This was for the Levites.
It's not of general application.
WOW, I'm becoming a Bible expert and I've never opened the book (except when I'm out of rolling papers in a hotel room).
Rolling papers? Oh dear, I hope you use a vaporizer. Much healthier. So I've heard. ;)

Anyway, I really find apologists for slavery puzzling. The fact that God ever condoned slavery for anyone should bring immediate condemnation from any rational and moral person. And if Leviticus was only for the Levites, does that mean everything else in that book, including condemnation of gay relationships, only applies to that specific group as well?

RiversideRedneck

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#218014 Mar 10, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
There are plenty. How about we start with Leviticus 25:44-46:
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way."
You seem to think that being a Christian exempts you from the Hebrew Bible. Please show me where Jesus said that any of the laws of the Hebrew Bible were rescinded.
In Matthew 5, Jesus said He didn't come to abolish the laws, but to fulfill them.

Do you know what it means to fulfill something?

Do you know the difference between abolish and fulfill?

If you do, you'll understand that Levitical law is not laws for Christians.

Next.

RiversideRedneck

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#218015 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
1. Observation that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information.
wilderide wrote:
What objective observational evidence for an intelligent designer which created the universe is there?
You're adding in to ID's observation.

Why?

The observation stands.

RiversideRedneck

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#218016 Mar 10, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
OK then, I'll disqualify you on other grounds.
How many of these guys were/are racists, mysogynists, homophobes? How many have hit six-month-old babies and women?{SNIP}
You cannot disqualify me for things I have not done.

I'm not a homophobe, I haven't hit any babies and I haven't hit women.

If you can, stop lying.

RiversideRedneck

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#218017 Mar 10, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Rolling papers? Oh dear, I hope you use a vaporizer. Much healthier. So I've heard. ;)
Anyway, I really find apologists for slavery puzzling. The fact that God ever condoned slavery for anyone should bring immediate condemnation from any rational and moral person. And if Leviticus was only for the Levites, does that mean everything else in that book, including condemnation of gay relationships, only applies to that specific group as well?
It sure does.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

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#218018 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
In Matthew 5, Jesus said He didn't come to abolish the laws, but to fulfill them.
Do you know what it means to fulfill something?
Do you know the difference between abolish and fulfill?
If you do, you'll understand that Levitical law is not laws for Christians.
Next.
A law is either in force or it isn't. If Jesus did not come to abolish them, then presumably they are still in force. Please explain what your understanding of the term "fulfill" means in the context of this topic.

“I see quantum effects”

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#218019 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>See how the Topix Atheist! swears that ID is talking about a deity even thought the ID doesn't make that claim.

The incandescent light bulb was designed. Would you say it takes God to do that?

Maybe they'll put God in their theory, if and when God allows them to test Him.
So man is the intelligent designer of man.

Ok.

Sure.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#218020 Mar 10, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
1. Observation that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information.
<quoted text>
You're adding in to ID's observation.
Why?
The observation stands.
Your reply made no sense and did not answer the question.

What objective observational evidence for an intelligent designer which created the universe is there?

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