Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#216944 Mar 5, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
Woe is poor little you.
Don't you mean boo hoo?

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#216945 Mar 5, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
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If every member of Al Qaeda changed their beliefs to Jainism, they would no longer pose a threat. They would transform from one of the biggest threats to mankind into no threat at all, because of a change in belief.
MURDERING FOR BELIEF

The total body count killed for atheism for only ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead, which is several times the number killed by all religions in 3,000 years, and several thousand times higher on an annual basis than all the killing done by Al Qaeda.

“Ditat Deus”

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#216946 Mar 5, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Every single piece of evidence presented on this thread with a percentage attached to it presented by theist or atheist has been well below 10%. I'm setting my guestimate at about 6%-7% of total receipts go to the needy, perhaps less. I realize that you hope that it's more, and so do I. Let's promise one another that we'll share any reliable information that we happen upon that suggests that any (tax exempt) Christian collection plate does better. I think most Ponzi schemes actually have to return more than that to maintain their illusion.
Of course you still think that all Christians churches are alike.

Wanna narrow it down to a few churches or just one?

Check out Harvest Christian Fellowship, here in Riverside. It's the eighth largest Christian church in America. Yup, in "dusty" Riverside, as Feltcher puts it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#216947 Mar 5, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
ToE cannot exist unless they assume that all life came from one life, one first life. As of yet, that pesky common ancestor thingymabob remains undetected and likely is undetectable. That's one big giant fuckingguess.
Do yourself a favor and stop talking about science. And statistics.

“Ditat Deus”

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#216948 Mar 5, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Point?
If you haven't gotten it by now, you likely never will.

Since: May 10

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#216949 Mar 5, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Given the opportunity would you have done everything in your power to stop the 9/11 attacks including killing? If your answer is yes, and no other answer is acceptable, then you would have killed for someones belief. The belief that this attack was the will of Allah, and that killing as many infidels as possible was a ticket to eternal bliss, is in fact a dangerous belief, and it would have been highly ethical to kill these people based on their "dangerous beliefs." We called the brave men who stormed the cockpit "heros" for their attempt to kill these religious fanatics.
So Sam Harris is correct, there are some beliefs that are so dangerous, that killing these people who not only hold these beliefs but act on them, would be considered necessary to preserve the lives of others.
Heard of "due process"? It's in the Constitution. Heard of the "Constitution"?

It is a protection against people with ideas like you and Sam Harris.

You are a perfect example of why atheists should never be allowed to have political power.

By the way, Shit-for-Brains, the hijackers in the cockpit were not stormed for their thoughts. The problem was their actions.

“Ditat Deus”

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#216950 Mar 5, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
Don't bother. I tried it. She just laid there.
Probably too busy thinking about your geneology...
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#216951 Mar 5, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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What is most interesting about all this?
Is that it is **always** and without **any** exceptions,**SCIENCE** who discovers the fakes.
Always.
**NEVER** is it religion.
I suppose this is because religion is in the business of fakery, and lacks the tools to tell real from fake.
Science has a very broad definition and meaning. But basically it is a category containing many sub categories.

It is not science that discovers fakes and fraud in the science category. It’s people that do.
As far as your religious assertion of fakery. Those soups and sandwiches given to the poor and homeless by religious charities is fake?

“Ditat Deus”

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#216952 Mar 5, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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I can't remember a $22 meal, so I can't answer that. I consider a 20% tip appropriate for average, regular service, nothing special but nothing to complain about. I start there, and tip more if the service has made my dining experience more pleasant. At restaurants where I dine often, I tip at least 25%, because the relationship means something to me.
I get lots of complimentary breakfasts at hotels, and always leave $5 on the table whether I have just coffee and toast, or the buffet, or an omelette from the kitchen.
Oh boy... You can't remember a $22 meal?

Is that because you're so awesome?

That's great that you start at 20%. Why? Do you still give a 20% tip for a shitty waitress? If so, why?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#216953 Mar 5, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Don't bother. I tried it. She just laid there.
.. I'm sorry ..

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#216954 Mar 5, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Hip's talking about the entire Christian community, over 2 billion people. You're talking about one part of it, Mormon's. You can't rightly compare the two.
It's not a comparison. The Mormons are one part of the grift. The Catholics another and the Protestants another. Every element that has been looked at does about as badly. Do you have any data that can put these suspicions to rest?

You can't polish this turd with apologetics. You'll need reliable data, and lots of it.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#216955 Mar 5, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Jed was played by Buddy Epsom.
Buddy Ebsen.

I have mentioned before that Buddy and his wife Dotty were my neighbors for several years. Great people. Buddy (who died a few years ago in his mid-90s) was an incredible person, thoughtful and generous, with a great sense of humor, and a very good friend. He lived in my neighborhood because he disliked the celebrity lifestyle and preferred a quiet existence. Well into his 80s, he'd invite me over to watch him practice his tap dancing, and sometimes he'd get in the pool and ask me to critique his stroke.(Buddy was a swimmer as a youth in Florida.) It's a little known fact that Buddy was cast as the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz, but during the filming he got sick, and the doctors diagnosed him with an allergy to the metal in the costume, so he had to drop out of the movie.

On the night that Halley's Comet was due to make its once-every-75-years pass, he called and asked if I'd walk along the beach with him and see if we could observe the comet. We didn't see it, but it was a memorable experience nonetheless.

Since: May 10

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#216956 Mar 5, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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You need to keep in mind that RR's thinking is black-or-white. There is only "never necessaryl" and "always necessary". There is no "may be".
BTW...good analysis.
The "may be necessary" is all that is required to put Harris in the camp of willing to entertain killing people for their beliefs, while innocent of any wrong action.

Of course he would not use "always necessary". He wouldn't favor killing every person for every belief.

And you think that makes him reasonable. You are a dumbass.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#216957 Mar 5, 2014
ChristINSANITY is EVIL wrote:
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How do YOU decide what is Fake and what is. Real Science ?
How do I decide?

I don’t decide but remain skeptical of imaginary sciences. Sciences based on guesses and speculation wrapped up in a nice complex worded document or journal.

Just because a so called science article, journal, or document has a dump truck of convoluted words doesn’t mean I believe in it.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#216958 Mar 5, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I've never heard that before. Is it true?
Yes it is.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#216959 Mar 5, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Probably too busy thinking about your geneology...
No such thing, Mr. no GED.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#216960 Mar 5, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh boy... You can't remember a $22 meal?
Is that because you're so awesome?
That's great that you start at 20%. Why? Do you still give a 20% tip for a shitty waitress? If so, why?
I know that question is for Catcher but I always tip better than 15% regardless of the waitress service. Very seldom if ever has it been poor. But waitress don’t make a lot of money and they are often Moms trying to feed their families.

Everyone has a bad day and personal problems can be distracting. I find when I tip good that the service improves for my next visit. People have to make a living these days and tips is how a lot of waitress put bread on the table.

If I get repeated bad service I’ll just no longer visit that establishment for a while.

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#216961 Mar 5, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's awesome.
On time, when I was really down on my luck and refused any state aid, someone sent me a money order in the mail for $4,000. I never found out who it was from. That's Christian generosity for ya.
1: I do not believe your story

2: If you do not know "who it was from"(sic): then you do not know it was christian generosity!

3: you are a habitual and inefficient Liar.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#216962 Mar 5, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh boy... You can't remember a $22 meal?
Is that because you're so awesome?
That's great that you start at 20%. Why? Do you still give a 20% tip for a shitty waitress? If so, why?
Servers are underpaid, and they work hard for their money. We all have bad days, and I won't be the one to punish a person for having one. And generosity, in my view, is like virtue--its own reward. BTW, I always pay for meals with a credit card, but I prefer to leave a cash tip--that way it ends up where I want it; some restaurant owner/managers cheat their staff.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#216963 Mar 5, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Mormons, technically known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, are a Christian denomination.
I agree with you.

Not everyone does.

Ergo...debatable.

You seem to think your opinion is the only one that matters.

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