Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#215748 Mar 1, 2014
scaritual wrote:
The Dave Nelson stepped into a cromlech time portal carrying walmart bags filled with twine, Marlboro cigarettes,:*¨`*The Unknown*¨`*:, paper clips, Universal Logic™, Jesusism, the Magnetonomicron, "energies", do it yourself monolith plans, beer, swine flesh, "thingies", sippy box wine, a couple of Radio Shack® speaker magnets and a cat.
"The night is dark and full of terrors."

I hope he took one of those wind-up radio flashlight thingies.

“What?”

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#215749 Mar 1, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
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"The night is dark and full of terrors."
I hope he took one of those wind-up radio flashlight thingies.
While sitting on the toilet and thinking really, rrrrrrreaaly hard, Dave Nelson has come up with a new toy idea.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

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#215750 Mar 1, 2014
Jacob wrote:
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Well, how do you explain everything got here? Just asking. If the Big Bang Theory (key word- THEORY) is real, then what was there before the Big Bang? There has to have been some sort of bomb to explode. So, how did the bomb get there? I'm just wondering how the heck you explain it all.
In the context of science...

From the World English Dictionary...

Theory:

5. a set of hypotheses related by logical or mathematical arguments to explain and predict a wide variety of connected phenomena in general terms: the theory of relativity

From the Britannica Online Encyclopedia...

scientific theory, systematic ideational structure of broad scope, conceived by the human imagination, that encompasses a family of empirical (experiential) laws regarding regularities existing in objects and events, both observed and posited. A scientific theory is a structure suggested by these laws and is devised to explain them in a scientifically rational manner.

In attempting to explain things and events, the scientist employs (1) careful observation or experiments,(2) reports of regularities, and (3) systematic explanatory schemes (theories). The statements of regularities, if accurate, may be taken as empirical laws expressing continuing relationships among the things or characteristics observed. Thus, when empirical laws are able to satisfy curiosity by uncovering an orderliness in the behaviour of things or events, the scientist may advance a systematic scheme, or scientific theory, to provide an accepted explanation of why these laws obtain.

Empirical laws and scientific theories differ in several ways. In a law, reasonably clear observational rules are available for determining the meaning of each of its terms; thus, a law can be tested by carefully observing the things and properties referred to by these terms. Indeed, they are initially formulated by generalizing or schematizing from observed relationships. In the case of scientific theories, however, some of the terms commonly refer to things that are not observed. Thus, it is evident that theories are imaginative constructions of the human mind—the results of philosophical and aesthetic judgments as well as of observation—for they are only suggested by observational information rather than inductively generalized from it. Moreover, theories cannot ordinarily be tested and accepted on the same grounds as laws. Thus, whereas an empirical law expresses a unifying relationship among a small selection of observables, scientific theories have much greater scope, explaining a variety of such laws and predicting others as yet undiscovered.

A theory may be characterized as a postulational system (a set of premises) from which empirical laws are deducible as theorems. Thus, it can have an abstract logical form, with axioms, formation rules, and rules for drawing deductions from the axioms, as well as definitions for empirically interpreting its symbols. In practice, however, theories are seldom structured so carefully.

You clearly don't understand what "theory" is in science, and you don't understand the Big Bang. Please refrain from posting on things you know nothing about.

For REAL information about the Big Bang...

NASA: http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-ar...

National Geographic: http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science...

Cal Tech: http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang...

University of Michigan: http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm

If this isn't enough, Google will find you more.
OG Kush

Jacksonville, FL

#215751 Mar 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
OK. What did you guys do with Dave Nelson?
Dave's not here!

http://m.youtube.com/watch...

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#215752 Mar 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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The book doesn't make General Sherman a historical figure, or the burning of Atlanta a historical event.
But they are.
Look up "Red Herring". Moron.
Ah, but Sherman and the burning of Atlanta are referenced in a great many other works, many that are eyewitness accounts.

But you are the one claiming that the book of fiction known as the Bible proves the historicity of Jesus and the crucifixion...even though he and it are mentioned no where else except in works based on the Bible.

There is a HUGE difference there. Jesus is analogous to Rhett Butler...who is only mentioned in GWTW...as Jesus is only mentioned in the Bible.

Speaking of red herrings...yours smells like week old fish.

You mentioned having been raised Christian though you aren't Christian now. You don't seem to have been able to shake loose from all that Bible school nonsense you were taught as a kid. Most people don't.

Please understand that I am NOT saying Jesus didn't exist. What I am saying is that he is not an historical figure since there are no historical sources for his existence. My father's father's father's (go on another 20 generations) father existed. There is no doubt that he did. But he is not an historical figure. No records (that I am aware of) exist for him.

The existence of Jesus is much more problematic. There MAY have been a person that was the seed for the stories in the NT. But then again, there may have not. We don't know. We can't tell.

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#215753 Mar 1, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Ah, but Sherman and the burning of Atlanta are referenced in a great many other works, many that are eyewitness accounts.
But you are the one claiming that the book of fiction known as the Bible proves the historicity of Jesus and the crucifixion...even though he and it are mentioned no where else except in works based on the Bible.
There is a HUGE difference there. Jesus is analogous to Rhett Butler...who is only mentioned in GWTW...as Jesus is only mentioned in the Bible.
Speaking of red herrings...yours smells like week old fish.
You mentioned having been raised Christian though you aren't Christian now. You don't seem to have been able to shake loose from all that Bible school nonsense you were taught as a kid. Most people don't.
Please understand that I am NOT saying Jesus didn't exist. What I am saying is that he is not an historical figure since there are no historical sources for his existence. My father's father's father's (go on another 20 generations) father existed. There is no doubt that he did. But he is not an historical figure. No records (that I am aware of) exist for him.
The existence of Jesus is much more problematic. There MAY have been a person that was the seed for the stories in the NT. But then again, there may have not. We don't know. We can't tell.
How many times can you be wrong?

I have not claimed the Bible proves anything, particularly not the crucifixion.

Also, you are wrong about it being the only reference to these.

Also, you are wrong in your analogy concerning General Sherman. Your original analogy was to suggest being included in a book of fiction is negative proof of a person or event.

You are also wrong in your claim that there are no historical sources for the existence of Jesus.

You are also wrong about your great, great grandfather. If he existed, he was a historical person, whether there is any record of him or not.

That's 5 misstatements in one post. Not bad for you. Moron.

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#215754 Mar 1, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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I think before.
Jerry had an identity crisis. In some ways you could call him a hippie, yet he trained in a Seminary for a priesthood of some sort. Then he sorted it all out, and he is who he is.
He's a good and decent person, and worthy of our respect though we might disagree with his views.
I disagree with his views.

I also think he is unworthy of respect, and he is a raving idiot who could only be elected by a collection of raving idiots.

But if you guys want $15 gas, all your earnings going to taxes and public employee pensions, and Mexicans over-running your state, go ahead. The smart ones among you have already moved to Texas.

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#215755 Mar 1, 2014

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#215756 Mar 1, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
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"The night is dark and full of terrors."
I hope he took one of those wind-up radio flashlight thingies.
Homemade glow sticks.
http://img.wonderhowto.com/img/88/49/63475246...
OG Kush

Jacksonville, FL

#215757 Mar 1, 2014

“What?”

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#215758 Mar 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I disagree with his views.
I also think he is unworthy of respect, and he is a raving idiot who could only be elected by a collection of raving idiots.
But if you guys want $15 gas, all your earnings going to taxes and public employee pensions, and Mexicans over-running your state, go ahead. The smart ones among you have already moved to Texas.
Robert J. Bentley

"I will ensure that Alabama does not follow the trend of allowing gay marriages or civil unions, and I will protect our state's right to define marriage as between one man and one woman. I support the Defense of Marriage Act, affirming the right of states not to recognize same-sex marriages licensed in other states. Alabamians should work together to protect traditional marriage. The two-parent family provides the best environment of stability, discipline, responsibility, and character."

"Abortion is a fundamental assault on the sanctity of innocent human life. I will ensure that abortion in Alabama is limited only to cases in which the mother's life is in danger. I will oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion. As Governor, I will protect young girls from exploitation and statutory rape by requiring parental notification before a minor may obtain an abortion."

As Governor, he will protect young girls from rape by requiring parental notification before an abortion occurs.

Holyfuckinhell.

“Ditat Deus”

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#215759 Mar 1, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
IMO - Space exploration - proves that there is no "God heaven" above the earth.
O.O

Riiight...

Have another bowl of Crazy Flakes.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215760 Mar 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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How many gods are you worshiping? Or is it just men?
Noting eye witness accounts of the same event from different men means someone is worshiping different God's???

There goes that 'rational humanist' oxymoron again....

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215761 Mar 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Feel free to do so. I know how to answer.
Yeah, "I'm a humanist, not an atheist" slimy slide.

Makes you a coward and an idiot.

Smile.

“Ditat Deus”

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#215762 Mar 1, 2014
ROCCO wrote:
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And a married man can also now say "meet my husband" or "today's our wedding anniversary" or "I'm his husband", as can a married woman now say "meet my wife" or "today's our wedding anniversary or "I'm her wife".
But the words don't tell you "everything", do they?
That tell you he's married.

Even though he never directly says "I'm married".

Besides, what words tell you everything?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215763 Mar 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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They are all essentially the same thing in a slightly different wrapper. The world has suffered wherever Stalinism, Christianity, Maoism or Islam have called the shots, and in precisely the same way.
Please feel free to bring up Stalinism and Moaism all you like, and I will continue to point out how authoritarian ideologies of violence and despair are all the same. Only humanism offers an alternative worth working for.
" in precisely the same way."

Please equate the fundamental belief systems and the death counts.

I'd love to see 'rational humanist' oxymoron reasoning and math.

Smirk.

“Ditat Deus”

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#215764 Mar 1, 2014
ROCCO wrote:
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One "what"?
Of one mind? One flesh?
Maybe they were married, just as in your example above, or in the verses below:
Genesis 2:24 ESV
Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
Ephesians 5:31 ESV
“Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”
Helpful Not Helpful
Matthew 19:5 ESV
And said,‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
Matthew 19:6 ESV
So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”
After all, everything is possible with your God, right?
"Helpful Not Helpful"?

I'm glad to see you using biblehub.com

Keep reading that Bible.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215765 Mar 1, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Did all the Christian families kill their foster kids?Snicker.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Did you mean literally kill them or just their minds and spirits?
Your claim was literally. But if you want to begin your slimy slide so soon, take your pick.

My wife and I fostered over ten children.

One of them flew us back to HI for the wedding two years ago. Is that what you mean?

SMirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215766 Mar 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Evolutionary purpose? FAIL.
You have nothing to offer on the subject.
Read the title.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-ev...

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215767 Mar 1, 2014
ROCCO wrote:
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From what I understand, you're a one thing does all.
Wow, a vicious bully, hate, troll attack. Is that the thanks I get for coming out???

Or is it just your total inability to mount a reasoned response.

Smile.

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