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“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#1 Aug 19, 2007
Hey People, have any of you ever thought for a second that Jesus might be an alien? Well, I think he was.

I would like to hear the views of some christians and other religious and philosophical people and scientists out there!

I would like to hear their opinions on my interpretations of what I have learned through scripture and other various religious or philosophical avenues that I have researched.

Even in this UFO stuff, I want to hear what the christians have to say about the divine automatic transmissions these people who have been contacted by aliens, similar to angels of biblical times.

I want to hear them explain why their angels and their books of these prophets are to be taken serious, but the information and events from the people visited by ufos and aliens are not to be believed.

I want to know if these sphere of angels or chariots of fire or cherubim were actually alien vehicles the intergalactic kind!

I want to talk about history and religion and control and other conspiracies.

I want to talk about the possibility of our world leaders and the ones who started this country and that royal bloodline did in fact, come from an alien race. And supposedly this is the same elite race that came from the bloodline of Jesus. Or whatever christ-cosmic-consciousness, solar god you to label it.

I want Answers Damnit! and I figure if a bunch of us all could get together and rationally debate and figure it out we might actually come up with some legitimate answers.

Maybe the Gods/esses, angels, mythical creatures, demons, and monsters were in fact, visitors from outer space.

Maybe Jesus was an Alien?
Otter de Saranac

New York, NY

#2 Aug 19, 2007
No Jesus was not an alien He preached in the area from which He came, no laws were broken in that regard. Now, if Jesus traveled to India or Egypt - then he would have been an alien, and one without a Visa probably.

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#3 Aug 19, 2007
Otter de Saranac wrote:
No Jesus was not an alien He preached in the area from which He came, no laws were broken in that regard. Now, if Jesus traveled to India or Egypt - then he would have been an alien, and one without a Visa probably.
Okay but these christians out there believe that he died and ascended. Now they watched him ascend. His disciples all gathered again from their graves when his mother mary ascended at a later date. Now to me in kind of sounds like they were beamed up some where. All the paintings I have ever saw of these ascenscions look like there are spaceships in the picture and a beam of light extending from the heavens and a band of angels/aliens all around. Kind of sounds like a close encounter of the third kind to me.

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#4 Aug 19, 2007

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#5 Aug 19, 2007
Sounds like an alien encounter to me

8A vision thus appeared to me.

9Behold, in that vision clouds and a mist invited me; agitated stars and flashes of lightning impelled and pressed me forwards, while winds in the vision assisted my flight, accelerating my progress.

10They elevated me aloft to heaven. I proceeded, until I arrived at a wall built with stones of crystal. A vibrating flame (20) surrounded it, which began to strike me with terror.

(20) Vibrating flame. Literally, "a tongue of fire"

11Into this vibrating flame I entered;

12And drew nigh to a spacious habitation built also with stones of crystal. Its walls too, as well as pavement, were formed with stones of crystal, and crystal likewise was the ground. Its roof had the appearance of agitated stars and flashes of lightning; and among them were cherubim of fire in a stormy sky.(21) A flame burned around its walls; and its portal blazed with fire. When I entered into this dwelling, it was hot as fire and cold as ice. No trace of delight or of life was there. Terror overwhelmed me, and a fearful shaking seized me.

(21) In a stormy sky. Literally, "and their heaven was water" (Charles, p. 81).

13Violently agitated and trembling, I fell upon my face. In the vision I looked.

14And behold there was another habitation more spacious than the former, every entrance to which was open before me, erected in the midst of a vibrating flame.

15So greatly did it excel in all points, in glory, in magnificence, and in magnitude, that it is impossible to describe to you either the splendour or the extent of it.

16Its floor was on fire; above were lightnings and agitated stars, while its roof exhibited a blazing fire.

17Attentively I surveyed it, and saw that it contained an exalted throne;

18The appearance of which was like that of frost; while its circumference resembled the orb of the brilliant sun; and there was the voice of the cherubim.

19From underneath this mighty throne rivers of flaming fire issued.

20To look upon it was impossible.

21One great in glory sat upon it:

22Whose robe was brighter than the sun, and whiter than snow.

23No angel was capable of penetrating to view the face of Him, the Glorious and the Effulgent; nor could any mortal behold Him. A fire was flaming around Him.

24A fire also of great extent continued to rise up before Him; so that not one of those who surrounded Him was capable of approaching Him, among the myriads of myriads (22) who were before Him. To Him holy consultation was needless. Yet did not the sanctified, who were near Him, depart far from Him either by night or by day; nor were they removed from Him. I also was so far advanced, with a veil on my face, and trembling. Then the Lord with his own mouth called me, saying, Approach hither, Enoch, at my holy word.

(22) Myriads of myriads. Ten thousand times ten thousands (Knibb, p. 99).

25And He raised me up, making me draw near even to the entrance. My eye was directed to the ground.

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#6 Aug 19, 2007
1Then addressing me, He spoke and said, Hear, neither be afraid, O righteous Enoch, you scribe of righteousness: approach hither, and hear my voice. Go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent you to pray for them, You ought to pray for men, and not men for you.

2Wherefore have you forsaken the lofty and holy heaven, which endures for ever, and have lain with women; have defile yourselves with the daughters of men; have taken to yourselves wives; have acted like the sons of the earth, and have begotten an impious offspring?(23)

(23) An impious offspring. Literally, "giants" (Charles, p. 82; Knibb, p. 101).

3You being spiritual, holy, and possessing a life which is eternal, have polluted yourselves with women; have begotten in carnal blood; have lusted in the blood of men; and have done as those who are flesh and blood do.

4These however die and perish.

5Therefore have I given to them wives, that they might cohabit with them; that sons might be born of them; and that this might be transacted upon earth.

6But you from the beginning were made spiritual, possessing a life which is eternal, and not subject to death for ever.

7Therefore I made not wives for you, because, being spiritual, your dwelling is in heaven.

8Now the giants, who have been born of spirit and of flesh, shall be called upon earth evil spirits, and on earth shall be their habitation. Evil spirits shall proceed from their flesh, because they were created from above; from the holy Watchers was their beginning and primary foundation. Evil spirits shall they be upon earth, and the spirits of the wicked shall they be called. The habitation of the spirits of heaven shall be in heaven; but upon earth shall be the habitation of terrestrial spirits, who are born on earth.(24)

(24) Note the many implications of vss. 3-8 regarding the progeny of evil spirits.

9The spirits of the giants shall be like clouds,(25) which shall oppress, corrupt, fall, content, and bruise upon earth.

(25) The Greek word for "clouds" here, nephelas, may disguise a more ancient reading, Napheleim (Nephilim).

10They shall cause lamentation. No food shall they eat; and they shall be thirsty; they shall be concealed, and shall not (26) rise up against the sons of men, and against women; for they come forth during the days of slaughter and destruction.

(26) Shall not. Nearly all manuscripts contain this negative, but Charles, Knibb, and others believe the "not" should be deleted so the phrase reads "shall rise up."

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#7 Aug 19, 2007
1And as to the death of the giants, wheresoever their spirits depart from their bodies, let their flesh, that which is perishable, be without judgment.(27) Thus shall they perish, until the day of the great consummation of the great world. A destruction shall take place of the Watchers and the impious.
(27) Let their flesh…be without judgment. Or, "their flesh shall be destroyed before the judgment" (Knibb, p. 102).
2And now to the Watchers, who have sent you to pray for them, who in the beginning were in heaven,
3Say, In heaven have you been; secret things, however, have not been manifested to you; yet have you known a reprobated mystery.
4And this you have related to women in the hardness of your heart, and by that mystery have women and mankind multiplied evils upon the earth.
5Say to them, Never therefore shall you obtain peace.
1They raised me up into a certain place, where there was (28) the appearance of a burning fire; and when they pleased they assumed the likeness of men.
(28) Where there was. Or, "where they [the angels] were like" (Knibb, p. 103).
2They carried me to a lofty spot, to a mountain, the top of which reach to heaven.
3And I beheld the receptacles of light and of thunder at the extremities of the place, where it was deepest. There was a bow of fire, and arrows in their quiver, a sword of fire, and every species of lightning.
4Then they elevated me to a babbling stream,(29) and to a fire in the west, which received all the setting of the sun. I came to a river of fire, which flowed like water, and emptied itself into the great sea westwards.
(29) To a babbling stream. Literally, "to water of life, which spoke" (Laurence, p. 23).

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#8 Aug 19, 2007
5I saw every large river, until I arrived at the great darkness. I went to where all of flesh migrate; and I beheld the mountains of the gloom which constitutes winter, and the place from which issues the water in every abyss.
6I saw also the mouths of all the rivers in the world, and the mouths of the deep.
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1I then surveyed the receptacles of all the winds, perceiving that they contributed to adorn the whole creation, and to preserve the foundation of the earth.
2I surveyed the stone which supports the corners of the earth.
3I also beheld the four winds, which bear up the earth, and the firmament of heaven.
4And I beheld the winds occupying the exalted sky.
5Arising in the midst of heaven and of earth, and constituting the pillars of heaven.
6I saw the winds which turn the sky, which cause the orb of the sun and of all the stars to set; and over the earth I saw the winds which support the clouds.
7I saw the path of the angels.
8I perceived at the extremity of the earth the firmament of heaven above it. Then I passed on towards the south;
9Where burnt, both by day and night, six mountains formed of glorious stones; three towards the east, and three towards the south.
10Those which were towards the east were of a variegated stone; one of which was of margarite, and another of antimony. Those towards the south were of a red stone. The middle one reached to heaven like the throne of God; a throne composed of alabaster, the top of which was of sapphire. I saw, too, a blazing fire hanging over all the mountains.
11And there I saw a place on the other side of an extended territory, where waters were collected.
12I likewise beheld terrestrial fountains, deep in the fiery columns of heaven.
13And in the columns of heaven I beheld fires, which descended without number, but neither on high, nor into the deep. Over these fountains also I perceived a place which had neither the firmament of heaven above it, nor the solid ground underneath it; neither was there water above it; nor anything on wing; but the spot was desolate.
14And there I beheld seven stars, like great blazing mountains, and like spirits entreating me.
15Then the angel said, This place, until the consummation of heaven and earth, will be the prison of the stars, and the host of heaven.
16The stars which roll over fire are those which transgressed the commandment of God before their time arrived; for they came not in their proper season. Therefore was He offended with them, and bound them, until the period of the consummation of their crimes in the secret year.

I keep seeing over and over again...never shall you obtain peace. They never wanted peace on earth...just war and hate ...no peace...Who controls this world, godly men or nephilim?

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#9 Aug 19, 2007
1Then Uriel said, Here the angels, who cohabited with women, appointed their leaders;

2And being numerous in appearance (30) made men profane, and caused them to err; so that they sacrificed to devils as to gods. For in the great day there shall be a judgment, with which they shall be judged, until they are consumed; and their wives also shall be judged, who led astray the angels of heaven that they might salute them.

(30) Being numerous in appearance. Or, "assuming many forms" (Knibb, p. 106).

3And I, Enoch, I alone saw the likeness of the end of all things. Nor did any human being see it, as I saw it.

Enoch was the only one who saw this.... This should be enough to debate for a few days....Any takers? This is from the Bible Christians out there! Sounds like some UFO/Alien contact to me!

I figured I would start somewhere around the beginning.
zack

Pewaukee, WI

#10 Aug 19, 2007
Otter de Saranac wrote:
No Jesus was not an alien He preached in the area from which He came, no laws were broken in that regard. Now, if Jesus traveled to India or Egypt - then he would have been an alien, and one without a Visa probably.
lmao wrong definition of alien friend, however excellent sarcasm

“Loud Pipes For All!”

Since: Mar 07

Voorhees, NJ

#11 Aug 19, 2007
"Are you angel, who's ship ran aground
can't get a grip on this planet you found
never to look down, trading your halo for feet on the ground."

"Alien Angel", by the underground metal band 3.
American

Springfield, MO

#12 Aug 19, 2007
Synkronos23 wrote:
Hey People, have any of you ever thought for a second that Jesus might be an alien? Well, I think he was.
I would like to hear the views of some christians and other religious and philosophical people and scientists out there!
I would like to hear their opinions on my interpretations of what I have learned through scripture and other various religious or philosophical avenues that I have researched.
Even in this UFO stuff, I want to hear what the christians have to say about the divine automatic transmissions these people who have been contacted by aliens, similar to angels of biblical times.
I want to hear them explain why their angels and their books of these prophets are to be taken serious, but the information and events from the people visited by ufos and aliens are not to be believed.
I want to know if these sphere of angels or chariots of fire or cherubim were actually alien vehicles the intergalactic kind!
I want to talk about history and religion and control and other conspiracies.
I want to talk about the possibility of our world leaders and the ones who started this country and that royal bloodline did in fact, come from an alien race. And supposedly this is the same elite race that came from the bloodline of Jesus. Or whatever christ-cosmic-consciousness, solar god you to label it.
I want Answers Damnit! and I figure if a bunch of us all could get together and rationally debate and figure it out we might actually come up with some legitimate answers.
Maybe the Gods/esses, angels, mythical creatures, demons, and monsters were in fact, visitors from outer space.
Maybe Jesus was an Alien?
I think you ought to read the Bible (The Word of the Living God) and quit asking such utterly foolish Satanic inspired questions!
John Coffey

United States

#13 Aug 19, 2007
Synkronos23 wrote:
Hey People, have any of you ever thought for a second that Jesus might be an alien? Well, I think he was.
Give me a second to stop laughing then I have a couple of questions for you Mindy......... Ok I think I've stoped laughing long enough to continue. Wow spacegirl please do tell us what makes you think Jesus is an alien? Did some spaceship come land in your front yard and the head e.t. beam himself out and give you this information? Was it some bedtime story your mommy or daddy told you as a little kid, and for some strange reason you believed it? Was it the little voices in your head that told you this Mindy? Or perhaps one or two to many times you have hit your head, and you just simply are having a hard time telling the difference between fantasy and reallity? Inquiring minds want to know space cadet.

“WheezyGirl51@gma il.com”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#14 Aug 19, 2007
This whole John Coffey vs Syn & Alien thing is getting rather ridiculous....careful guys it may turn into a Wheezy/Deb type war.......trust me, guys, it aint pretty.

“Thou vain boil-brained giglet!”

Since: Jul 07

Ohio

#15 Aug 19, 2007
you've made my day!!

i think that idea was one of the craziest things i've ever heard. lovely!

“Homosapien ”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#16 Aug 19, 2007
Verses of Ezekiel (from the Bible) very much sound a U.F.O. landing, Ezekiel BTW is also is one of the most quoted parts of the Bible denouncing gays. Maybe Ezekiel didn't enjoy his anal probes during his abduction.
zack

Pewaukee, WI

#17 Aug 19, 2007
John Coffey wrote:
<quoted text>
Give me a second to stop laughing then I have a couple of questions for you Mindy......... Ok I think I've stoped laughing long enough to continue. Wow spacegirl please do tell us what makes you think Jesus is an alien? Did some spaceship come land in your front yard and the head e.t. beam himself out and give you this information? Was it some bedtime story your mommy or daddy told you as a little kid, and for some strange reason you believed it? Was it the little voices in your head that told you this Mindy? Or perhaps one or two to many times you have hit your head, and you just simply are having a hard time telling the difference between fantasy and reallity? Inquiring minds want to know space cadet.
Gice me a second to stop laughing Coffey.....ok i think ive stopped laughing long enough to continue. Wow "north going Zax" please do tell what makes you think your god is real? Did god himself come to your house and anounce his authenticity? Was it some story your local pastor told you? Or perhaps one to many hits on the head and you have a hard time spelling "reallity"? Inquiring minds want to know why you came to a thread with a name that you knew you wouldnt agree with, and was started by a person with whim you two already have a personal vendettaagainst each other, unless u search for a fight?
John Coffey

United States

#18 Aug 19, 2007
zack wrote:
<quoted text>
Gice me a second to stop laughing Coffey.....ok i think ive stopped laughing long enough to continue. Wow "north going Zax" please do tell what makes you think your god is real? Did god himself come to your house and anounce his authenticity? Was it some story your local pastor told you? Or perhaps one to many hits on the head and you have a hard time spelling "reallity"? Inquiring minds want to know why you came to a thread with a name that you knew you wouldnt agree with, and was started by a person with whim you two already have a personal vendettaagainst each other, unless u search for a fight?
Glad you asked there zack. See I for one am getting tired of her, and her space boy husband running down Christians, and Christianity all the time. I'm just giving them back the same thing they are giving, so if you have a problem with that then I guess you have a problem. I don't know your belief on things and frankly I don't care, I say to each his own. But when someone bashes what I believe in then I will bash back. Now if you want to take sides on this issue that's your right to do so. They have been running to everyone here looking for someone to come to there aid when someone gives them back what they give. I don't need help nor have I once asked anyone to help me out. As for you question about God being real. I can say as sure as I'm writing this that he is. And the reason I can say that is very simple. Go read Acts 2:4 it explains very nicely in that verse of scripture how I know God is real. Now you can choose to believe what it says there or not, I could care less. See what you think or believe means nothing to me. So if you want to jump on me about what I have to say to the 2 topics aliens then jump away. They have been whineing and crying for about me bashing what they say 2 days now looking for someones shoulder to cry on, and if you want to lend them your shoulder then go for it zack.

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#19 Aug 19, 2007
American wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you ought to read the Bible (The Word of the Living God) and quit asking such utterly foolish Satanic inspired questions!
Hey no one asked you to come and think for me. I have read the bible, all the proof that I will use will come from your Bible. Which version of the Bible do you want to use? God could have been an Alien? Jesus could have been an Alien....Just as probable as there being a God and Jesus and Heaven and Hell. I can show the same amount of proof. I don't believe in the Satan so my questions aren't inspired by Satan but they seem to scare the hell out of you.

“You are all brainwashed!”

Since: May 07

Zombie Town USA

#20 Aug 19, 2007
mixed wrote:
Verses of Ezekiel (from the Bible) very much sound a U.F.O. landing, Ezekiel BTW is also is one of the most quoted parts of the Bible denouncing gays. Maybe Ezekiel didn't enjoy his anal probes during his abduction.
I have so many stories from the BIBLE to back up my theories. I will post Ezekiel at another time. I will also talk about the resurrection of Christ. I am just trying to start somewhere in the beginning and lead up to it. They can't even discuss what I have posted here from the Book of Enoch. For people who know their Bible so well, they don't even know that this is in their own bible. They don't teach this stuff about aliens in church. No way. Too many people would start asking questions. Just the new testament and stories of fear. Like the flood, hell and etc.

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