Religion Has No Purpose
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#85 Mar 29, 2014
andet1987 wrote:
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i copied and pasted this from someone which i think seems credible:
Also of early scientists were monks and prists, at least in europ. cause they were the only ones who were educated. So with out religion many early discoverys would not have happened. religion was mans way of explaining the earth before we knew all the details. religion created science. so science has definetly benefited from religion.
here is another copy and paste:
Totally wrong, Christianity directly helped science. In fact it is because of Christianity that science came about. Christians believe that God is a God of order not confusion. So the
universe must have identifiable rules. We looked for them and found them. Google early scientist and you will see a majority are Christians.
@ Simple Bob You are right, it was not all Christian. Others were involved but I believe a majority may have been Christian
here is another copy and paste:
I definitely think science and faith can exist. I mean if you look inside the human body how we have a liver, kidney, heart each of it has a function of it's own -- if you believe in an Intelligent Designer, it's very Intelligent with what they've done :) even cat's, dog's have hearts that our different from our own. All these species on earth -- point to a Creator.
here is another one: "Totally wrong
Science is observation and exploration, and the logical conclusions reached based upon each. Faith is the logical conclusion that there is a reality beyond what is currently seen.
To paraphrase Albert Einstein, faith without science is blind (and stagnant), but science without faith is crippled.
So there were a handful of monks and priests involved in science, that still doesn't offset the damage that Christianity and religion in general has done. It in no way makes up for the retardation of science and advancements in medicine caused by organized religion. Look up what was done to Galileo, also look up what happened to the library of Alexandria.
Your posted quote...."In fact it is because of Christianity that science came about" I have no idea who wrote that, but they are completely WRONG, and obviously do not know the definition of science......"Science, The systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural word through observation and experiment."
Early man made discoveries long before Christianity raised its ugly head. Early man discovered fire, the wheel, how to make implements and weapons, discovered natural remedies for illness and other ailments, and developed a language. Early man were scientists, making discoveries for the betterment of his species, no different from what science does today.
Faith is NOT the logical conclusion that there is reality beyond what we can see. Logic conclusions are based on evidence not guesswork. Faith is the permission to believe something without evidence, only someone without reason, logic and skepticism would use faith rather than science based evidence. Someone without reason, logic and a healthy does of skepticism would be considered extremely unintelligent.
Einstein als said "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and diminishes the object of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after his own--a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism."
He also said......."I don't believe is a personal God and I have never denied this but expressed it clearly"

“The Bible is no science book”

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#86 Mar 30, 2014
andet1987 wrote:
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i think America wants to conquer the Universe and wants to become The King of the Universe :) just kidding :)
here are some reasons why we explore the outer space.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
These are the real reasons we go into space. Take a few minutes and listen.

http://www.myvidster.com/video/16027824/House...
TWIMC

Buffalo, NY

#87 Mar 30, 2014
But think about this one for awhile:
The liberals have been known to look right at a blacksheep and tell you that it is white.
There was a guy on here being laughed at for telling the whereabouts of Fema Camps, and showing the link for the map for which they are located.
So, if they knew without a shadow of a doubt there were Fema Camps, to imprision us (such as Hitler had for the Jews),
They would side with the liberal administration to help kill us.
Even if their family are Christians. Matt 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Yes, even if you have family..brothers, sisters, dads, moms, that hates Jesus;
they will have you put to death for being a believer in Christ.

What did Judas do? He claimed to love Jesus, yet betrayed him and Jesus knew what he would do before he did it. Christians know what is coming and they are getting ready to leave this world.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#88 Mar 30, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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These are the real reasons we go into space. Take a few minutes and listen.
http://www.myvidster.com/video/16027824/House...
yes, i listened to the first speaker. that was good. i will listen more later. i have to sleep now. thanks for that link.:)
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#89 Mar 30, 2014
TWIMC wrote:
But think about this one for awhile:
The liberals have been known to look right at a blacksheep and tell you that it is white.
There was a guy on here being laughed at for telling the whereabouts of Fema Camps, and showing the link for the map for which they are located.
So, if they knew without a shadow of a doubt there were Fema Camps, to imprision us (such as Hitler had for the Jews),
They would side with the liberal administration to help kill us.
Even if their family are Christians. Matt 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Yes, even if you have family..brothers, sisters, dads, moms, that hates Jesus;
they will have you put to death for being a believer in Christ.
What did Judas do? He claimed to love Jesus, yet betrayed him and Jesus knew what he would do before he did it. Christians know what is coming and they are getting ready to leave this world.
I have NO idea what point you're trying to make.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#90 Mar 30, 2014
Edthirty wrote:
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If this invisible and silent God is as loving and forgiving as good Christians would have everyone believe, then there's no need to worry about Hell or any other damnation, right?
A careful reading of the Bible reveals that 'Bible God' is an evil sociopath.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#91 Mar 30, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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A careful reading of the Bible reveals that 'Bible God' is an evil sociopath.
You forgot to mention baby killer and fetus destroyer, but you're forgiven.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#92 Mar 30, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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A careful reading of the Bible reveals that 'Bible God' is an evil sociopath.
You know when God commands Moses to keep the virgins for the soldiers, ever wonder how they came to that determination? What barbaric test do you suppose they used to tell which young girls have slept with a man or not? Christians won't go near a question like this with a 10 foot pole, and I understand why!!!!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#94 Mar 30, 2014
funny wrote:
<quoted text>funny ting about atheist. they cannot get out of the OT.
So you want to get out of the OT? Jesus said God is unchanging, he is what he is today, yesterday, and forever. What happened in the NT, did God suddenly decide to NOT be a prick anymore? If you think the OT is no longer valid then we can chuck the 10 commandments as they are in the OT.

Funny thing about Christians, actually its pretty pathetic, they have absolutely no defense for their God being a baby killer, condoning the rape of young girls, promoting slavery and Genocide. They worship a monster and consider this monster their father, how pathetic is that!!!
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#95 Mar 30, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
Funny thing about Christians, actually its pretty pathetic, they have absolutely no defense for their God being a baby killer, condoning the rape of young girls, promoting slavery and Genocide. They worship a monster and consider this monster their father, how pathetic is that!!!

It says no such thing. This is why you are no Bible teacher. LOL.

The propaganda is spread so often I know the verse and have copied down what the Bible actually says:

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What the Bible actually says about rape:

Deut 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.[note: "force" this is about rape.]

Duet 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Then the man that lay with her shall give to the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he has humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.[This is fornication, not rape. It says the fornicators are to get married.]

So the Bible does not support rape. Also read the Ten Commandments.

Is there a death decree still today?

Wikipedia reports fairly about this:

"A death sentence could be issued only during the period when the Holy Temple stood, and only so long as the Supreme Torah Court convened in its chamber within the Temple complex. Today, therefore, no death penalty applies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery#Christi...


There simply is no genocide either. God is all about JUSTICE. Learn the difference.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#96 Mar 30, 2014
socci wrote:
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It says no such thing. This is why you are no Bible teacher. LOL.
The propaganda is spread so often I know the verse and have copied down what the Bible actually says:
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What the Bible actually says about rape:
Deut 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.[note: "force" this is about rape.]
Duet 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Then the man that lay with her shall give to the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he has humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.[This is fornication, not rape. It says the fornicators are to get married.]
So the Bible does not support rape. Also read the Ten Commandments.
Is there a death decree still today?
Wikipedia reports fairly about this:
"A death sentence could be issued only during the period when the Holy Temple stood, and only so long as the Supreme Torah Court convened in its chamber within the Temple complex. Today, therefore, no death penalty applies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery#Christi...
There simply is no genocide either. God is all about JUSTICE. Learn the difference.
Try reading the WHOLE bible, not just the parts that feel all warm and fuzzy.

God condones the rape of young virgins:


They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#97 Mar 30, 2014
socci wrote:
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It says no such thing. This is why you are no Bible teacher. LOL.
The propaganda is spread so often I know the verse and have copied down what the Bible actually says:
-
What the Bible actually says about rape:
Deut 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.[note: "force" this is about rape.]
Duet 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Then the man that lay with her shall give to the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he has humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.[This is fornication, not rape. It says the fornicators are to get married.]
So the Bible does not support rape. Also read the Ten Commandments.
Is there a death decree still today?
Wikipedia reports fairly about this:
"A death sentence could be issued only during the period when the Holy Temple stood, and only so long as the Supreme Torah Court convened in its chamber within the Temple complex. Today, therefore, no death penalty applies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery#Christi...
There simply is no genocide either. God is all about JUSTICE. Learn the difference.
"There is simplyNO Genocide either." Really, you are saying there is NO Genocide in the bible? Do you know what Genocide is? Genocide....."The deliberate killing of a large group of people. those of a particular ethnic or nation.

Since God commanded the slaughter of ALL of the Midianites, with the exception of all the young virgins, That absolutely constitutes Geocide.

Are you also saying God never murdered little babies, and destroyed fetuses? Be careful now, you know I'm going to prove you wrong here if you say no. ha ha ha
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#98 Mar 30, 2014
"Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves."

This from Numbers 31:7-18 NLT

God is commanding Moses to have all the young virgin given to battle hardened soldiers to "keep for themselves." Who would be naive enough to think these men took these young girls to only make them a sandwich?
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#99 Mar 30, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
"There is simplyNO Genocide either." Really, you are saying there is NO Genocide in the bible? Do you know what Genocide is? Genocide....."The deliberate killing of a large group of people. those of a particular ethnic or nation.
Since God commanded the slaughter of ALL of the Midianites, with the exception of all the young virgins, That absolutely constitutes Geocide.
Are you also saying God never murdered little babies, and destroyed fetuses? Be careful now, you know I'm going to prove you wrong here if you say no. ha ha ha

During ww2 many Germans died. This was genocide? or was it self defense & justice?

God rained fire down on Sodom & Gomorrah. This actually happened; the cities are found still today in ashen ruins. It was not genocide as this society was judged by God as wicked due to their own crimes including genocide of others.

The same is true of preflood earth - it was wiped out due to wickedness including slavery, genocide and human sacrifice. God ended their wickedness, not the other way around.

Why are you defending the wicked genocidal cultures?

The same is true of the Baal worshiping Midianites; the difference being here Moses was able to spare the young women to be raised away from the wicked culture.

So you are way off in defense of Nazis while placing blame on the justice system, literally.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#100 Mar 30, 2014
socci wrote:
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During ww2 many Germans died. This was genocide? or was it self defense & justice?
God rained fire down on Sodom & Gomorrah. This actually happened; the cities are found still today in ashen ruins. It was not genocide as this society was judged by God as wicked due to their own crimes including genocide of others.
The same is true of preflood earth - it was wiped out due to wickedness including slavery, genocide and human sacrifice. God ended their wickedness, not the other way around.
Why are you defending the wicked genocidal cultures?
The same is true of the Baal worshiping Midianites; the difference being here Moses was able to spare the young women to be raised away from the wicked culture.
So you are way off in defense of Nazis while placing blame on the justice system, literally.
That you don't understand the difference between war and genocide speaks volumes about your intelligence level. The German committed Genocide on the Jews, are you then saying your God is on the same level with Hitler and his "final solution?"

Your God condones slavery and involved himself with blood sacrifice, so you have just pointed out for all of us what a hypocrite your God really is. How many innocent little babies did your God murder during this flood? How many fetuses did he destroy? How many wicked children do you know, lets say between the ages of 1-6? How many children between the ages of 1-10 keep slaves?

You really think giving young virgins to battle hardened soldiers saw them raised away from their "wicked culture?" Men who hadn't seen a women for month on the battlefield, suddenly found themselves with beautiful young virgins to do with as they please, so they had them fix their supper? Is that really what you think happened to the frightened young women. Dragged away from their loved ones, watched as mothers, fathers, sister and brothers were disemboweled by swords, watched the only home they had ever know burned to the ground, and then forced to bed the men responsible for the slaughter?

BTW there was never a world wide flood, science has already squashed that ridiculous idea. Most probably a very large local flood, but a world wide flood with all the planets animals on an ark is a children's story, no one with an IQ below 2 could possible believe such bullshit.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#101 Mar 30, 2014
socci wrote:
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During ww2 many Germans died. This was genocide? or was it self defense & justice?
God rained fire down on Sodom & Gomorrah. This actually happened; the cities are found still today in ashen ruins. It was not genocide as this society was judged by God as wicked due to their own crimes including genocide of others.
The same is true of preflood earth - it was wiped out due to wickedness including slavery, genocide and human sacrifice. God ended their wickedness, not the other way around.
Why are you defending the wicked genocidal cultures?
The same is true of the Baal worshiping Midianites; the difference being here Moses was able to spare the young women to be raised away from the wicked culture.
So you are way off in defense of Nazis while placing blame on the justice system, literally.
Are you going to thank me for pointing out how wrong you were about God not commanding Genocide, as you stated in post #951? Your welcome. Just a suggestion, read your bible for cover to cover as I have done, and done a number of times, it's important to educate yourself completely on the subject at hand. Otherwise you end up making stupid statements like the one about God NOT condoning and commanding Genocide.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#102 Mar 31, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>That you don't understand the difference between war and genocide speaks volumes about your intelligence level. The German committed Genocide on the Jews, are you then saying your God is on the same level with Hitler and his "final solution?"
Your God condones slavery and involved himself with blood sacrifice, so you have just pointed out for all of us what a hypocrite your God really is. How many innocent little babies did your God murder during this flood? How many fetuses did he destroy? How many wicked children do you know, lets say between the ages of 1-6? How many children between the ages of 1-10 keep slaves?
You really think giving young virgins to battle hardened soldiers saw them raised away from their "wicked culture?" Men who hadn't seen a women for month on the battlefield, suddenly found themselves with beautiful young virgins to do with as they please, so they had them fix their supper? Is that really what you think happened to the frightened young women. Dragged away from their loved ones, watched as mothers, fathers, sister and brothers were disemboweled by swords, watched the only home they had ever know burned to the ground, and then forced to bed the men responsible for the slaughter?
BTW there was never a world wide flood, science has already squashed that ridiculous idea. Most probably a very large local flood, but a world wide flood with all the planets animals on an ark is a children's story, no one with an IQ below 2 could possible believe such bullshit.
from cover to cover. meaning, you only read the front and back covers of the Bible. but you love to read only gay magazines.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#103 Mar 31, 2014
andet1987 wrote:
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from cover to cover. meaning, you only read the front and back covers of the Bible. but you love to read only gay magazines.
It's interesting to watch children when things don't go their way, they usually hurl insults in the most childish way, like "You big poopy head" or "Yeah Mr. smelly butt." Sit back and look at almost every insult you have hurled, they all have the same childish theme, all dealing with gay, as though you have a real stigma with being homosexual. It's ok, really, every species in the animal kingdom displays same sex behavior.

Intelligent people have conversations, adults have conversations, children or ignorant people hurl insults. Don't get me wrong here, I myself have purposely insulted people usually because they have insulted me, or because insults were to only way of communication. When people are mentally ill, like most Christians, and reasonable conversations are impossible, then insults seem to get their attention.

Now back to you, you either want to have an adult conversation, an intelligent conversation or you want to act like a child hurling childish insults, which is it? Because if you're going to act like a child then I'll do what I do with most misbehaving children, I ignore them. So which is it?
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#104 Mar 31, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>It's interesting to watch children when things don't go their way, they usually hurl insults in the most childish way, like "You big poopy head" or "Yeah Mr. smelly butt." Sit back and look at almost every insult you have hurled, they all have the same childish theme, all dealing with gay, as though you have a real stigma with being homosexual. It's ok, really, every species in the animal kingdom displays same sex behavior.
Intelligent people have conversations, adults have conversations, children or ignorant people hurl insults. Don't get me wrong here, I myself have purposely insulted people usually because they have insulted me, or because insults were to only way of communication. When people are mentally ill, like most Christians, and reasonable conversations are impossible, then insults seem to get their attention.
Now back to you, you either want to have an adult conversation, an intelligent conversation or you want to act like a child hurling childish insults, which is it? Because if you're going to act like a child then I'll do what I do with most misbehaving children, I ignore them. So which is it?
adult conversation ? omg, that is an an**al subject !!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#105 Mar 31, 2014
andet1987 wrote:
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adult conversation ? omg, that is an an**al subject !!
fuckoffchild!!!

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