Why I’m no longer a Christian
Bozo the Clown

Mountain View, CA

#469840 Oct 12, 2014
mike wrote:
<quoted text> Hello
Can you explain your post ,...I haven't been brainwashed yet ?....
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Romans 1:20 NKJV
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

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It means that everyone before they die inevitably comes to the realization that
(1) there is a Creator
(2) that the Creator is worthy of worship

There is a choice

Whether is thru the sound of there child's first cry , the sunrise over the Himalayas or the sight of new growth in the Congo after a spring rain...

I call that Creator Jesus. He is my God and He is worthy of all worship
Bozo the Clown

Mountain View, CA

#469841 Oct 12, 2014
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text>Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
1 John 3:6-9 NKJV
Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.[7] Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.[8] He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.[9] Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#469842 Oct 12, 2014
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text>Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Yes, Paul was clearly a false prophet. We don't need to continue proving how confused he was about the Bible.
Bozo the Clown

Mountain View, CA

#469843 Oct 12, 2014
Liam R wrote:
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Yes, Paul was clearly a false prophet. We don't need to continue proving how confused he was about the Bible.
Could you explain?
mike

AOL

#469844 Oct 13, 2014
Bozo the Clown wrote:
<quoted text>
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Romans 1:20 NKJV
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
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It means that everyone before they die inevitably comes to the realization that
(1) there is a Creator
(2) that the Creator is worthy of worship
There is a choice
Whether is thru the sound of there child's first cry , the sunrise over the Himalayas or the sight of new growth in the Congo after a spring rain...
I call that Creator Jesus. He is my God and He is worthy of all worship
Thanks

No one instinctively know there is a GOD ,..people are taught there must be a GOD/Creator .
duststorm

League City, TX

#469848 Oct 15, 2014
Liam R wrote:
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GROSS conceptual error. The Bible does NOT say that all mankind is born in sin because of A&E. The ONLY curse was that people now have to work for a living, rather than being allowed to live in the Garden where all their food grew without human effort.
Someday, you should consider trying to read the Bible to see what it actually says.
51 Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions.

2 Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.

3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.

4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.

5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Liam, as an observant Jew, you will agree with what King David had to say about the matter.
duststorm

League City, TX

#469849 Oct 15, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
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What does temperature at Earth's core have to do with it? Are you really naive enough to believe the Christian Hell is actually located inside our planet? Is that actually what you're implying?
You will have all eternity to determine just exactly what your coordinates are as the smoke of your torment ascendeth forever.
duststorm

League City, TX

#469850 Oct 15, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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When do you think this Adam and Eve lived? Ten thousand years ago? Twenty thousand?
The Dna of modern humans goes back over 200,000 thousand years on one mitochrondial line.
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Arts and Entertainment have a genealogy which goes back around 6,000 years.
duststorm

League City, TX

#469851 Oct 15, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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I don't think there is anything in the Bible that praioses intelligence so I wouldn't pay much attention to your view on what constitutes intelligence,
Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#469852 Oct 15, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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Ah yes, that'll be where you read about atheists killing atheists in arguments over who believes in gods the least.
Ah, wait a minute.....that never happens.
LOL......good one!

OCTOBER IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#469853 Oct 15, 2014
duststorm wrote:
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Arts and Entertainment have a genealogy which goes back around 6,000 years.
Correction - we have cave paintings (art and entertainment for these creators) that go back 40,000 years.

Please do not promote a false history of the Earth.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/...

If you were to set aside your Bible and research what you express before expressing it, you may get something accurately stated every now and then.
duststorm

League City, TX

#469854 Oct 15, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Correction - we have cave paintings (art and entertainment for these creators) that go back 40,000 years.
Please do not promote a false history of the Earth.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/...
If you were to set aside your Bible and research what you express before expressing it, you may get something accurately stated every now and then.
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,

25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,

26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,

27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,

28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,

29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,

30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,

31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,

32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,

33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,

34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,

35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,

36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,

37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,

38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#469855 Oct 15, 2014
duststorm wrote:
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Arts and Entertainment have a genealogy which goes back around 6,000 years.
And that means what ? The magazine or tv channels has been around 5950 years before the tv was invented?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#469856 Oct 15, 2014
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text>23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,
26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,
27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,
28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,
29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,
30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,
31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,
33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,
35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,
36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,
37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Are you showing your diversion and avoidance on purpose?

This has nothing to do with my post.

Wanna try again?
duststorm

League City, TX

#469858 Oct 16, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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And that means what ? The magazine or tv channels has been around 5950 years before the tv was invented?
Liam posted the following:
GROSS conceptual error. The Bible does NOT say that all mankind is born in sin because of A&E. The ONLY curse was that people now have to work for a living, rather than being allowed to live in the Garden where all their food grew without human effort.
duststorm

League City, TX

#469859 Oct 16, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Are you showing your diversion and avoidance on purpose?
This has nothing to do with my post.
Wanna try again?
The entire 6500 years of man's existence on earth, beginning with A&E.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#469860 Oct 17, 2014
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text> The entire 6500 years of man's existence on earth, beginning with A&E.
Oh no, another Christians who thinks humanity has only been on earth for 6500 years. There were millions of people on earth at that point.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_millennium_B...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_crea...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#469861 Oct 17, 2014
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text> The entire 6500 years of man's existence on earth, beginning with A&E.
Well since I've proven you to be wrong, and you still are clamoring on about how I am incorrect - using only your opinion.....why haven't you produced anything that is credible to support your position?

I know the answer to this - BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING.

See that is easy.....because I enjoy and like to be direct and honest, where as you prefer avoidance, diversion, lying, and overall misleading people towards your unfounded belief of men over what Jesus taught.

No need to further your explanation....because I know you will lie about all the facts I just stated.

And that is because Christianity promotes dishonesty and arrogance.
duststorm

League City, TX

#469862 Oct 18, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Well since I've proven you to be wrong, and you still are clamoring on about how I am incorrect - using only your opinion.....why haven't you produced anything that is credible to support your position?
I know the answer to this - BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING.
See that is easy.....because I enjoy and like to be direct and honest, where as you prefer avoidance, diversion, lying, and overall misleading people towards your unfounded belief of men over what Jesus taught.
No need to further your explanation....because I know you will lie about all the facts I just stated.
And that is because Christianity promotes dishonesty and arrogance.
I too prefer the truth.
Genealogies set forth in the Bible may not account for exactly 6500 years. Many names of persons who were born in those lineages are not mentioned. If you wish to believe that mankind has existed on earth for 60,000 years or 6 million years, that is your prerogative. You have no exact method of determining the time frame. Neither do I. I lean towards a much younger age for Earth. I lean towards a quick and expeditious time frame for the creation of earth, actually less than a week in real time.
This is my opinion, born of my belief. In that you are correct.
duststorm

League City, TX

#469863 Oct 18, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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Oh no, another Christians who thinks humanity has only been on earth for 6500 years. There were millions of people on earth at that point.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_millennium_B...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_crea...
I generally ascribe to the Young Earth Creationism, which was set forth accurately in the Wiki article. I even followed the Gap theory for several years, as it served to tidy up some apparent inconsistencies.

Do you believe that:
Light was created in an instant.
The light was then divided from the darkness.
There was an atmosphere created on the second day. God created an ozone covering to protect us. On that day the firmament of the heavens was created.
The third day he gathered the oceans and let the dry land appear. Seeds, trees, grass, fruits.
Fourth day was spectacular, what with the placing of the stars, sun, moon; then, he formed the rhythm of seasons, days, years.
Day five, animals and their reproduction each after his kind were created by God.

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