Why I’m no longer a Christian

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#469493 Aug 22, 2014
NoStress4me wrote:
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A1)To begin with, you started in on me. Secondly a non - Christian does not believe in God, so why should they be expected to live a Christian life? Very few nonbelievers on here have been disrespectful to my beliefs as an individual.
A2)Where would you like me to begin? I am a Christian.
1) it's not anymore appropriate for a non-christian to be obnoxious and disrespectful to Christians about God than it is for ANYONE TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ANYONE ELSE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE!
in fact, IMO it's because of doormat-minded and ill-advised 'christians' that antichrists get away with what they do!!!

2) i never accused you of not being a Christian and saved by God's grace. i am, however, challenging you with the notion that not all Christians are disciples; aka not all are doing the ministry that Christ and His disciples did. not all believers were His disciples then, why would they all be now?

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#469494 Aug 22, 2014
NoStress4me wrote:
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That is not what you are doing, and you know that.
we're not supposed to attempt to judge each others motives!:-)

sister, if only you realized that the hard sayings of Christ (beginning with "if you will be My disciple...") only apply to those who wish to follow in His same steps as ministers of the Gospel, but not to every believer, i believe that it would be a truth that would set you free to flourish as a woman in your gifts and calling:-)

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#469495 Aug 22, 2014
NoStress4me wrote:
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Let's try it this way. How many disciples are found within the Bible?]
the amount of disciples recorded in the New Testament cannot be quantified and the New Covenant dispensation is still in effect to this day:-)

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#469496 Aug 22, 2014
NoStress4me wrote:
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Why would you even say this?
cuz it's true and cuz mike started it!:-)

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#469497 Aug 22, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Have to disagree with your 'secondly'.
I believe in God as do most non-Christians.
I also believe in Jesus and am not a Christian.
I don't live a Christian life but instead try to live the by the principles set down by Jesus. The two IMHO are opposites.
have you sold all that you have, given the money to the poor and become a homeless preacher like Christ was? that is the principle that Christ set down for you who thinks you're righteous through your works

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#469498 Aug 22, 2014
Matt from Akron wrote:
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You are so incredibly repugnant.
thanks for the persecution points, matt!;-)

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#469500 Aug 22, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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have you sold all that you have, given the money to the poor and become a homeless preacher like Christ was? that is the principle that Christ set down for you who thinks you're righteous through your works
Jesus was neither homeless nor poor.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#469501 Aug 22, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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the amount of disciples recorded in the New Testament cannot be quantified and the New Covenant dispensation is still in effect to this day:-)
Dispensation ?

Your religion was invented less than 100 years ago by John Nelson Darby.

You are still a clueless moron.

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Since: Aug 10

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#469502 Aug 22, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Dispensation ?
Your religion was invented less than 100 years ago by John Nelson Darby.
You are still a clueless moron.
JND was your gay lover

Since: May 07

Indianapolis, IN

#469503 Aug 22, 2014
Senecus wrote:
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"Jumped the shark" after "The Campers" , eh?:)
Hope all's been well for you. Yeah, I 'check in' every now and then ,also....
I'm fine, hope you are as well. Just moved to a different city. Made me realize I'm not young anymore - I'm still sore a week later.

Speaking of the Campers, are those lying charlatans Dave and Gary still spreading their nonsense here? They were immensely enjoyable chew toys back in the day.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#469504 Aug 24, 2014
NoStress4me wrote:
I believe that it is a gift from God.
I was wondering why the god of the Bible gets so murderous when people choose not to use the gift the way he wants them to?

"That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."

2 Chronicles 15:13

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#469505 Aug 24, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
Hi, Khat.
So far, so good - how's by you?
Hi Mac

Not bad, thanks.

Decided to retire at the end of next year.

Plan is to move back up north. Most likely to Oban.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#469506 Aug 24, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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YOU (unbelievers) will be judged by your works! I (believers) will be rewarded for my faithfulness!
this thing is almost too good to be true (for believers, that is!)
btw - i don't get my Bible doctrine from gaytheists anymore than gaytheists get their sexual advice from the amish;-)
So the god of the bible judges non-believers by their works and believers by their level of faith.

I see

Your god doesn't subscribe to the principles of equality, does he?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#469507 Aug 24, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
waaasssuuup wrote:
the Gospels/biographies of Jesus will be your Judge and jury.
nuff said
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Hi Khatru - you also side with many of those who have had NDEs.
Many say - there is no judgment, just a question that is something like this paraphrased one:
"How do you think your life was?"
Clearly this shows that we will judge ourselves for our own actions ("reap what you sow" / "judge by works").
If one were to utilize this saying by Jesus - it is also very clear that what we sow can depend upon how we are in the next life - if that so happens.
"To know yourself is to know the kingdom of God."
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm
So again, we reap what we sow, is very similar in many ways and characteristics to "to know yourself".
In other words - if we can know what we will do - we will also know what we reap.
FYI - many so-called "Christians" refuse to acknowledge that this teachings is valid, but if one were to really look at its simplicity of the meaning - it is very much a valid statement and very useful for anyone when trying to achieve a peaceful, loving and caring lifestyle.
Those who refute it, probably have some remorse and indifference towards being a peaceful and loving person, so they reject it along with its possibility to help them.
Cheers!
I try my best to live my life by the Golden Rule.

“let's do this thang!”

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#469508 Aug 25, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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So the god of the bible judges non-believers by their works and believers by their level of faith.
I see
Your god doesn't subscribe to the principles of equality, does he?
all equity as been satisfied through the Blood of Christ, of whom you choose to reject.

therefore, you're out there all on your own.....

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Since: Aug 10

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#469509 Aug 25, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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I try my best to live my life by the Golden Rule.
epic fail!

i don't see you treating Christ and i how you'd like to be treated, received, and loved unconditionally; instead, you're always accusing and condeming:-(
mike

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#469510 Aug 25, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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dear mike,
please talk to NoStress who apparently is much better at this than me. BUT, if afterwards you are still not a believer in Christ, i'm going to consider you as a flaming hypocrite and enemy of the Gospel:-)
Thanks

The burden always rest on the professer of a GOD,... hasn't your GOD told you;...you're a poor representive of the,.." GOD-Concept".

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#469511 Aug 25, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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Hi Mac
Not bad, thanks.
Decided to retire at the end of next year.
Plan is to move back up north. Most likely to Oban.
Good for you!

Gateway to the Isles, eh? They make a decent single-malt there...

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Since: Aug 10

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#469512 Aug 25, 2014
mike wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks
The burden always rest on the professer of a GOD,... hasn't your GOD told you;...you're a poor representive of the,.." GOD-Concept".
i like it when accusers accuse me cuz it encourages me that i'm on the narrow path of 'grace through faith'!

if i were promoting humanist concepts like all y'all; i.e.,'i'm a good person cuz i always try to do my best', you'd have no problem with me!;-)

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#469513 Aug 25, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Have to disagree with your 'secondly'.
I believe in God as do most non-Christians.
I also believe in Jesus and am not a Christian.
I don't live a Christian life but instead try to live the by the principles set down by Jesus. The two IMHO are opposites.
As you should have...stepped into the discussion, and put on personal blinds to the rest. My bad.
I agree.
Not many people do so....why I like discussions with you.
I agree with both as I see them, I believe that because of how I was raised they are compatible. Smo.

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