Why I’m no longer a Christian

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467830 Nov 14, 2013
Anti-Christ wrote:
For Viking / ATHEIST SCUM KILLER:
Lesson 54
More Contradictory Scripture in the New Testament
The Paschal (Passover) was the first and single most important festival in the Old Testament. God ordered all the descendants of Israel to celebrate Passover:
“And this day shall become to you a remembrance. And you shall observe it as a festival to The Lord throughout your generations – observe it as a festival, an everlasting law.”
Exodus 12:14
And again in Leviticus 23:5, 14:
“In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, between the evenings, is the Passover to The Lord.”
“…– a law forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings."
The Lord required the entire nation to attend Paschal and made allowances for those who lived far away from “…the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name” which was eventually Solomon’s Temple in Jerusalem:
“Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.”
Deuteronomy 14:22-26
Those who lived far away and could not carry their tithe were allowed to trade the tithe for silver and purchase a sacrifice at the Temple with that silver. Local merchants who lived in Jerusalem would set up tables in the Temple to provide this service as required by God himself.
You can imagine their reaction to Jesus when he did what he did in Matthew:
Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves [which was an acceptable sacrifice for one who doesn’t have much money].“It is written,” he said to them,”‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’(Isaiah 55:7) but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’”
Matthew 21:12-13
The so called “money changers” were chased out of the Temple and chastised by Jesus for providing a service that God required them to provide. One would have to believe Jesus was ignorant of his fathers’ Torah or this passage was added by someone who was ignorant of Torah and this never happened.
So much for Infallible.
Bonus points for the abstinent preaching xians, the Bible specifically instructs people who live too far from the Temple to carry their sacrifice in live form, they are to convert it to cash and take that cash and buy whatsoever their hearts desires, INCLUDING strong drink.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467832 Nov 14, 2013
Anti-Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
He doesn't get it because he isn't incapable of analyzing information or distinguishing fact from fiction.
Yeah, but it is just so much fun poking the trolls with facts and watching them foam at the mouth.

Besides, I can't leave the library until my son finishes his homework.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467834 Nov 14, 2013
The conversation between Eve and the serpent that DIDN'T make it into the Bible...

http://bornagainpagan.com/cartoons/016-is-sat...

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467838 Nov 14, 2013
ATHEIST SCUM KILLER wrote:
<quoted text>
THERE IS NOT ONE CONTRADICTORY VERSE IN THE BIBLE....NOT ONE!!!!!!
The problem is that retards like YOU and that other talking lobotomy "Liam" or whatever that freak's name is, don't know how to properly read and interpret Holy Scripture.
Ah, yes... now we get to see the Super Secret Jesus Magic Decoder Ring (tm) in action:
Take those troublesome verses and twist them into ANYTHING you want them to be!
Ignore all of the contradictions!
Deny the prophecies that don't fit your ideology!

And all for the low low price of your brain! Hey, xians never use their brains for thinking, so you won't even know its gone! Order your today.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467840 Nov 14, 2013
ATHEIST SCUM KILLER wrote:
<quoted text>
And you will proudly and promptly be sent to Hell.
Hell is a xian myth, invented to scare the ignorant into staying ignorant.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467841 Nov 14, 2013
ATHEIST SCUM KILLER wrote:
<quoted text>
It is YOU who is foaming at the mouth, you murdering Muslim Pig. You've yet to make ONE VALID POINT!!!!!!!!NOT ONE!!!!!!!!
There is none so blind as a xian fundy with all the facts against him..
Kait the Donkey Bait

Greenville, SC

#467842 Nov 14, 2013
Anti-Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
He doesn't get it because he isn't incapable of analyzing information or distinguishing fact from fiction.
Blow it, bugle boy!
Kait the Donkey Bait

Greenville, SC

#467843 Nov 14, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry. My essence will be dripping out of as winos ass when I die.
I have no power over it. Horny does the Satan who take me from behind.
Ewww.
Kait the Donkey Bait

Greenville, SC

#467845 Nov 14, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
I would fcuk a one-eyed blind man wearing gay undies with all my fat against him..
Now that is just gross.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467846 Nov 14, 2013
ATHEIST SCUM KILLER wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again, you self-defeating horse's ass. If HE were a false God, they would all be dead........but they're not, because HE protects them. Just like he protects them in Vietnam, North Korea, Russia, Eastern Europe, Indonesia, China, etc, etc, etc. Just like he's protected them for over 2000 years. If he didn't protect them, then HIS movement would have been extinguished 2000 years ago.
CHECKMATE YOU COLOSSAL IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!
Stop making this so easy...
There is no legal recognition of, or protection under the law for, freedom of religion, and it is severely restricted in practice. The country is a monarchy and the King is both head of state and government. The legal system is based on the government's official interpretation of Shari'a (Islamic law). Sunni Islam is the official religion.

The Government confirmed that, as a matter of public policy, it guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all, including non-Muslims who gather in homes for religious services. However, this right was not always respected in practice and is not defined in law. Moreover, the public practice of non-Muslim religions is prohibited, and mutawwa'in (religious police) continued to conduct raids of private non-Muslim religious gatherings. Although the Government also confirmed its policy to protect the right to possess and use personal religious materials, it did not provide for this right in law, and the mutawwa'in sometimes confiscated the personal religious material of non-Muslims.
...
Non-Muslims and Muslims who do not adhere to this interpretation faced significant political, economic, legal, social, and religious discrimination, including limited employment and educational opportunities, underrepresentation in official institutions, and restrictions on the practice of their faith and on the building of places of worship and community centers. There were also charges of harassment, abuse, and killings at the hands of the mutawwa'in, or religious police, who work for the Commission to Promote Virtue and Prevent Vice (CPVPV). These incidents caused many non-Muslims to worship in fear of, and in such a manner as to avoid discovery by, the police and mutawwa'in.
...
Most non-Muslims and Muslims whose beliefs do not adhere to the Government-approved interpretation of Islam must practice their religion in private and are vulnerable to discrimination, harassment, detention, and if a noncitizen, deportation. Blasphemy carries the death penalty. Conversion by Muslims to another religion (apostasy) and proselytizing by non-Muslims are both punishable by death, but there have been no confirmed reports of executions for either crime in recent years.
...
The Government required noncitizens to carry a legal resident identity card, which contained a religious designation for "Muslim" or "non-Muslim." There were unconfirmed reports that some mutawwa'in pressured sponsors and employers not to renew the residency card of non-Muslims they had sponsored for employment if it was discovered or suspected that those individuals had led, sponsored, or participated in private non-Muslim worship services. Similarly, there were reports that mutawwa'in pressured employers and sponsors to reach verbal agreements with non-Muslim employees that they would not participate in private non-Muslim worship services.
From here:
U.S. Department of State
http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2008/10849...

“What the Bleep? ”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#467851 Nov 15, 2013
For Viking / ATHEIST SCUM KILLER:

Lesson 6

Paul gives two contradictory stories about his conversion. In Acts 9:7 he claims the men with him heard the voice but saw nothing:

Acts 9:7
And the men journeying with him stood speechless, hearing indeed the voice but seeing no one.
But in Acts 22:9 he says the men with his saw a light but heard nothing:

Acts 22:9
And those who were with me indeed saw the light and were afraid, but they did not hear His voice speaking to me.

This is important because according to the Torah, more than one witness was required to confirm an event. Even Jesus knew he could not be a solitary witness to himself:

John 5:31-32
If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true. There is another who bears witness of
Me, and I know that the witness which He witnesses of Me is true.

This is because under Torah, at least two witnesses were required for any event:

Numbers 35:30
Whoever kills someone has to be put to death as a murderer by the mouth of witnesses, but only one witness does not bear witness against someone to die.

Deuteronomy 17:6
At the mouth of two or three witnesses shall he that is to die be put to death. He is not put to death by the mouth of one witness.

Deuteronomy 19-15
One witness does not rise up against a man concerning any crookedness or any sin that he commits. At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses a matter is established.

If indeed the men with Paul did not hear the voice as in the version in Acts 22:9, then the witness of his alleged conversion could not be established as true.

The fact that he told two contradictory stories proves he is a liar.

“What the Bleep? ”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#467852 Nov 15, 2013
For Viking / ATHEIST SCUM KILLER:

Lesson 6

Proof of Paul’s Lies

Acts 21:10-13
...Thus shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man who owns this girdle, and deliver him into the hands of the gentiles.’” And when we heard this, both we and those from that place begged him not to go up to Jerusalem. And Paul answered,“What do you mean by weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be bound, but also to die at Jerusalem for the Name of the Master Jesus.”

Why was he afraid to go to Jerusalem?

Acts 20:22:
...“You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are who have believed, and all are ardent for the Torah.“And they have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the gentiles to forsake Moses, saying not to circumcise the children nor to walk according to the practices.“What then is it? They shall certainly hear that you have come".

Paul claims Jesus did away with the works of the Torah. Apparently this wasn't the case at the Jerusalem church. James accused Paul of teaching the Jews who are among the gentiles "to forsake Moses, saying not to circumcise the children nor to walk according to the practices". Circumcision and the practices James talks about here are the works of the Torah. Why was the Jerusalem church still practicing the very things Paul claims Jesus sacrifice did away with? Because the Jerusalem church was still practicing Torah including the works, Paul was teaching contrary to this, and they found out.

Then to prove himself this, he was asked to participate in a cleansing ritual.

Acts 21:23-24:
“So do this, what we say to you: We have four men who have taken a vow.“Take them and be cleansed with them, and pay their expenses so that they shave their heads. And all shall know that what they have been informed about you is not so, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Torah".

This was a shrewd act on the part of James. This way, if Paul was teaching contrary to the works of the Torah, he would be exposed as a hypocrite. Paul complied, and completed the ritual.

Acts 21:26:
"Then Paul took the men on the next day, and having been cleansed with them, went into the Set-apart Place to announce the completion of the days of separation until the offering should be presented for each one of them".

Most Christians can't see the contradiction here because they are ignorant of Torah Law. This vow, the vow of the Nazerite, is explained in Numbers 6:13-14:

"And this is the Torah of the Nazirite: When the days of his separation are completed, he is brought to the door of the Tent of Meeting, and he shall bring his offering to the Lord: one male lamb a year old, a perfect one, as a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb a year old, a perfect one, as a sin offering..."

The problem here is Paul taught that Jesus' sacrifice eliminated the need for animal sacrifice for sin and other works of the Torah (Hebrews 10), yet here he is participating in a ritual that required an animal sacrifice for a sin offering.

This is only one example of Paul’s lies and hypocrisy.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#467853 Nov 15, 2013
Anti-Christ wrote:
For Viking:
Lesson 4
God Lied: The Serpent Told the Truth
Genesis 2:16-17(KJV):
And the LORD God commanded the man, saying,“Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”
I had to use the New King James Version of the bible for this passage because to scholars, this passage is so blatantly wrong that in subsequent versions it was changed to cover the fact that God lied.
For instance, in the NIV the passage reads:
“You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.” Genesis 2:16-17(NIV)
Notice the the phrase “for in the day that you eat “was changed to “for when you eat from it “. The word “day” has been omitted because, contrary to what God said, Adam did NOT die the DAY he ate the fruit, just as the serpent said in Genesis 3:1-5:
“Has God indeed said,‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent,“We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said,‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’” Then the serpent said to the woman,“You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
First notice the woman did not relay Gods exact words. She omitted then added. She omitted by saying “God has said,‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’” when God actually said “…for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Then she added by saying “nor shall you touch it, lest you die” which God did not say.
<<snipped to respond>>

One could also take this one step further to also add value to what you've posted with this text:

18 And their product was completely inactive and motionless for a long time.
But when the Mother wanted to retrieve the power which she had given to the Chief Ruler, she entreated the Mother-Father of the All, the one who possesses great mercy. Following the holy design, he sent the five Lights down to the place of the angels of the Chief Ruler. They advised him with the goal of extracting the power of the Mother.
And they said to Yaldabaoth,'Breathe into his face by your spirit and his body will arise.' And into his face he blew his spirit, which is the power of his Mother. He did not understand because he dwells in ignorance. And the power of the Mother left Yaldabaoth and went into the psychic body that they had made according to the likeness of the one who exists from the beginning. The body moved and gained power, and it was luminous.
And in that moment, the rest of the powers became jealous for it was because of them all that he had come into being and they had given their power to the human.
..........
But what they call 'the tree of the knowledge of what is good and evil' is the Epinoia of the light. They (the rulers) remained in front of it in order that he might not look up to his fullness and come to know the nakedness of his shamefulness. But as for me, I set them right so that they would eat."
And I said to the Savior, "Lord, was it not the snake who taught Adam so that he would eat?"
The Savior laughed and said, "The snake taught them to eat from a wicked desire to sow which belongs to destruction, in order that he (Adam) would become useful to it. And it knew that he was dis­obedient to it because the light of Epinoia dwelled in him, making him more correct in his thinking than the Chief Ruler.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-long.htm...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#467854 Nov 15, 2013
Liam R wrote:
The conversation between Eve and the serpent that DIDN'T make it into the Bible...
http://bornagainpagan.com/cartoons/016-is-sat...
I also posted a link to it from an ancient text found at Nag Hammadi.
Gut Stomper

Sylva, NC

#467856 Nov 15, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell is a xian myth, invented to scare the ignorant into staying ignorant.
Yet, you still seem worried.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#467857 Nov 15, 2013
Anti-Christ wrote:
For Viking / ATHEIST SCUM KILLER:
Lesson 6
Proof of Paul’s Lies
Acts 21:10-13
...Thus shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man who owns this girdle, and deliver him into the hands of the gentiles.’” And when we heard this, both we and those from that place begged him not to go up to Jerusalem. And Paul answered,“What do you mean by weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be bound, but also to die at Jerusalem for the Name of the Master Jesus.”
Why was he afraid to go to Jerusalem?
Acts 20:22:
...“You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are who have believed, and all are ardent for the Torah.“And they have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the gentiles to forsake Moses, saying not to circumcise the children nor to walk according to the practices.“What then is it? They shall certainly hear that you have come".
Paul claims Jesus did away with the works of the Torah. Apparently this wasn't the case at the Jerusalem church. James accused Paul of teaching the Jews who are among the gentiles "to forsake Moses, saying not to circumcise the children nor to walk according to the practices". Circumcision and the practices James talks about here are the works of the Torah. Why was the Jerusalem church still practicing the very things Paul claims Jesus sacrifice did away with? Because the Jerusalem church was still practicing Torah including the works, Paul was teaching contrary to this, and they found out.
Then to prove himself this, he was asked to participate in a cleansing ritual.
Acts 21:23-24:
“So do this, what we say to you: We have four men who have taken a vow.“Take them and be cleansed with them, and pay their expenses so that they shave their heads. And all shall know that what they have been informed about you is not so, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Torah".
This was a shrewd act on the part of James. This way, if Paul was teaching contrary to the works of the Torah, he would be exposed as a hypocrite. Paul complied, and completed the ritual.
Acts 21:26:
"Then Paul took the men on the next day, and having been cleansed with them, went into the Set-apart Place to announce the completion of the days of separation until the offering should be presented for each one of them".
Most Christians can't see the contradiction here because they are ignorant of Torah Law. This vow, the vow of the Nazerite, is explained in Numbers 6:13-14:
"And this is the Torah of the Nazirite: When the days of his separation are completed, he is brought to the door of the Tent of Meeting, and he shall bring his offering to the Lord: one male lamb a year old, a perfect one, as a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb a year old, a perfect one, as a sin offering..."
The problem here is Paul taught that Jesus' sacrifice eliminated the need for animal sacrifice for sin and other works of the Torah (Hebrews 10), yet here he is participating in a ritual that required an animal sacrifice for a sin offering.
This is only one example of Paul’s lies and hypocrisy.
you said "The problem here is..."

LOL! it's only a "problem" for an antichrist. to the Redeemed, your problems are our solutions!;)

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467858 Nov 15, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet, you still seem worried.
No. That would be you projecting your silly fears onto others in a feeble attempt to make it seem that they are somehow rational.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467859 Nov 15, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
you said "The problem here is..."
LOL! it's only a "problem" for an antichrist. to the Redeemed, your problems are our solutions!;)
Your "solution" is to knowingly follow the teachings of a false prophet?

Seems to me that it would be more honest to simply say you are an atheist. Or convert to a religion that is NOT based on the teachings of a false prophet.
Gut Stomper

Sylva, NC

#467860 Nov 15, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
No. That would be you projecting your silly fears onto others in a feeble attempt to make it seem that they are somehow rational.
Wow! Years later you are STILL talking about something you claim to have settled YEARS ago.
Funny that.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#467861 Nov 15, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
just a cpl things about your post. you said:
"I am no hypocrite"
"treat people with love and respect...no matter what their mind set or personality is"
"I more often than not...do counsel Christians on their misbehavior"
from these statements i gather that you encourage the behavior of witches, antichrist's and gaytheists, but think that it's your calling to reprimand those who debate against them.
so, according to your own words, i see you as hypocrite of the pharisee order!
Back at my desk top this evening~ TRUTHS here----
For the non believing friends~ I know that you know these scriptures--- and that is one of the reasons you hold us accountable for who we say we are~

I have this scripture in my "cut" to bring into topix for where it is needed... let's see what God's word says about our actions~

Love for Enemies
Luke 6: 27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.
32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

Judging Others

37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
39 He also told them this parable:“Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into a pit?
~*~

See Wassup- you and your type of person can slander my ways all you want- as my way sare from God's own direction manual- My only job is letting you know when you cross HIS line- the rest is up to you... JUST like you tell the NON believers~ It's up to YOU to choose this day. Will you believe in Jesus Christ and repent and repair YOU ?

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