Why I’m no longer a Christian

Since: Aug 07

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#467287 Oct 29, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
The first known mention of an empty tomb in the Jesus saga is from the Gospel of Mark as part of his passion narrative. GoMark dates to around 70 CE, some 40 years after the described events, written in Greek, in a different country.
Paul never mentions an empty tomb story, only saying that Jesus died, was buried and was raised from the dead. There is no evidence to suggest that Paul ever met Jesus, but he did claim to converse with the original followers of Jesus. Being thrown in a limed pit would qualify as being buried.
It is entirely possible that the idea and story of followers finding an empty tomb is Markan fiction, or the creation of some earlier tradition.
We do know that by the time GoMatthew was written c. 80's, there was a rumor circulating that the body of Jesus had been stolen, which is also more likely than the supernatual claim of resurrection.
Mat 28:13 telling them,“You are to say,‘His disciples came at night and stole his body while we were asleep.’
People are reporting X as dead since May 2011--- this post is from ......Dec 8, 2012

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467288 Oct 29, 2013
Chess wrote:
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So Yahweh is a fraud too?
I didn't say that. I just said that there is the same amount of evidence supporting Yahweh as there is for various other Gods that have been worshiped over the years.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467289 Oct 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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that little kid you're snuggling up to in the photo. would you do anything for them; i.e., do worship the ground they walk on or do you see them as an awsesome gift from God and do you trust Him with their welfare more than you trust yourself with it?
That little kid is now a teenager - I definitely do not worship the ground he walks on, and sometimes it can be difficult to remember back to when I thought of him as a "gift" - but then he turns around and acts nice again. There are even times that he still snuggles up to me (no, not just when he wants something).

Since your god is a false god, it would be child abuse to trust him to do anything for my son.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#467290 Oct 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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both agreeing to close the lid is a seperate issue than mandating the position of the seat. only real men would understand these things, AND only real men don't let the proverbial 'headache' dictate sexual activity either.....
Sex without consent is rape, even if you are married.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#467291 Oct 29, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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That little kid is now a teenager - I definitely do not worship the ground he walks on, and sometimes it can be difficult to remember back to when I thought of him as a "gift" - but then he turns around and acts nice again. There are even times that he still snuggles up to me (no, not just when he wants something).
Since your god is a false god, it would be child abuse to trust him to do anything for my son.
your gods are the false ones who will die with you

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#467292 Oct 29, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Sex without consent is rape, even if you are married.
women manipulating men thru sex is 'witchcraft', and most so-called 'men' are bewitched thereby.

come with me if you want to live....;)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#467293 Oct 29, 2013
agapaoHope wrote:
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People are reporting X as dead since May 2011--- this post is from ......Dec 8, 2012
He is dead to me.

:o)

No - not really, I've just always wanted to say that!!

Hey X - wherever you are - Hang loose!! Did you ever get that pony?

:o)
Chess

Columbus, OH

#467294 Oct 29, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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I didn't say that. I just said that there is the same amount of evidence supporting Yahweh as there is for various other Gods that have been worshiped over the years.
And that is *exactly* what I'm pointing out -- a man with a myth objecting to another man's myth.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#467295 Oct 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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yeah - you guys stick to discussing movies with teen heartthrobs and leave the spiritual conversations to those of us who know about it:)
You don't know jack shit about anything spiritual; you are an idiot.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#467296 Oct 29, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Says the buybullbot whose role model is Don Knotts.
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And you are wrong. Your buybull is a book of lies. You need to be told what to "think."
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Common sense, and my own intellect. I don't have any need to have "all the answers," and anyonw who *claims* to have "all the answers" is a damn liar.
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I prefer George Carlin.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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thanks but i don't trust your common sense for rules that should define our society.
That's your loss.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>george carlin ended up being a disgruntled and angry rambler about conspiracies.
Conspiracies? Yeah, right. I agree with the anger, though; he was incredibly pissed off at people like you. I don't blame him.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#467297 Oct 29, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
wtf?
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You're making even less sense than usual.
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Yeah, that's you.
Assie, don't try to sound intelligent; you're not capable of it.
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So, family isn't important to you? Would you sell your own mother for a shot at entering "heaven?" I'm thinking yes.
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Jesus never said anything; he never existed. But thanks for showing us once again that you belong to a hate cult.
You really do sicken me.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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you're not gonna get a minute of my time or any respect when you say stuff like "Jesus never said anything; he never existed..."
Jesus never existed. Fact. Cold, hard truth. Deal with it.

As for your "respect," I don't want it. I need that like I need a nail in one tire.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text> you're being like a spoiled little brat sticking your finger in your ears and yelling "LA LA LA LA....I'M NOT LISTENING TO REASON!!!"
Says the buybullbot who sticks his fingers in his ears and yells, "I CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT, I'M FORGIVEN!"

You know NOTHING of reason, buybullbot; not one damned thing.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#467298 Oct 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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your gods are the false ones who will die with you
Your "god" is a stolen myth, that will die with you.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#467299 Oct 29, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Sex without consent is rape, even if you are married.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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women manipulating men thru sex is 'witchcraft',
You don't know jack shit about witchcraft, you moron; shut up.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text> and most so-called 'men' are bewitched thereby.
come with me if you want to live....;)
Thank you, Cotton Mather. Pezzo di stupido.

Since: Aug 07

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#467300 Oct 29, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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He is dead to me.
:o)
No - not really, I've just always wanted to say that!!
Hey X - wherever you are - Hang loose!! Did you ever get that pony?
:o)
LOL-

I hope that he got that pony !!

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#467301 Oct 29, 2013
Hi (((((((LIAM))))))))!!

Truths here (c:

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#467303 Oct 30, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Liam R wrote:
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Sex without consent is rape, even if you are married.
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You don't know jack shit about witchcraft, you moron; shut up.
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Thank you, Cotton Mather. Pezzo di stupido.
wasup - exposing the stupidity and powerlesness of witchcraft one witch at a time.......

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#467305 Oct 30, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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women manipulating men thru sex is 'witchcraft', and most so-called 'men' are bewitched thereby.
come with me if you want to live....;)
I prefer Jesus than you:

"Sell all you have and give the money to the poor, then come and follow me." - Jesus

Did you follow Jesus on that commandment ?

Do you have a religious excuse for not doing so or an honest confession to God that you do not have the faith to do so ?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#467306 Oct 30, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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I prefer Jesus than you:
"Sell all you have and give the money to the poor, then come and follow me." - Jesus
Did you follow Jesus on that commandment ?
Do you have a religious excuse for not doing so or an honest confession to God that you do not have the faith to do so ?
was that a command, ben???

i see it as an answer from Christ about how to be "perfect" in context to a self-righteous and rich young ruler's question "what good thing must i do to inherit eternal life".

it's like you telling me that you're good enough on your own merits to be accepted by God, and me replying - go for it then dude - and good luck cuz you're gonna need it!
MissMargo57

Vicksburg, MS

#467307 Oct 30, 2013
I am so glad you Told us your experience Couth...I have asked the same question to many professed atheist/agnostics i guess. I truly wanted to know why they did not believe in God as a Principal part of their lives.
I was brought up in a Southern Baptist Church, and i can kinda remember my conversion i guess you would call it. I have opened my mind up that the good Lord gave me and have questioned like you many things. I am a Christian, does that make me perfect, definitely not....Did I have this overwhelming experience as a kid, i do remember crying and feeling very bad...that i was such a sinner.
I truly believe that a person must come to that right time, be whatever age it might be, to hear Jesus knocking on the door of our souls. I believe he comes in as a small still voice, very unlike the Hell Fire and Brimstone preachers of my former church. LOL We as humans will always be "human" and I think God knows that, he says that we will...if we could live up to the standards of heaven alone I doubt that we would ever get there. LOL That is what i feel is the "grace of God"...that no matter what i think about myself, he is willing to give me chance over chance to try and be more like him, knowing i will never succeed. Its his Grace that sets me free.
My husband will be asked..."what religion are you?" and he tells them he's a Christian who happens to be a Methodist. Our religion or affiliation is not who we have to account to for our lives. I look at going to church as a "rejuvenation shot"...sometimes I need to be reminded of who God is and what he is in my life. We all fail, we all cry, we all have happiness, or sadness...I believe that if God isn't finished with you yet, he will do it and you will know it. God asks to be let in, he doesn't force himself on you or let others do it...the adage you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink goes for our faith as well. LOL So i respect your feelings and hope that you will listen for that small voice when the time comes. I respect the insight that you have in yourself. I can't tell you what the answer is, only you can just stay openminded enough to let God work in your heart...in his time. Not other peoples time, place, church etc. I am so glad i found this quite by accident. Maybe i needed it too, to hear and know your feelings

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Since: Jul 08

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#467308 Oct 30, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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wasup - exposing the stupidity and powerlesness of witchcraft one witch at a time.......
You're almost as funny as Dave Nelson Wasup. Just like Dave, you spew out a bunch of nonsense, then gloat over having crushed someone... while everyone else just sits back and laughs at you. Do they teach this argumentative style to all of the morons at Oral Roberts Fundie College or do have to take it as a special interest course?

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