Why I’m no longer a Christian

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Since: Aug 10

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#466762 Sep 26, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>No.
There is a claim made, by a single multiply-refuted source, that there were witnesses.
so be it; you may live for eternity without the Saviour/Redeemer:)

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Since: Aug 10

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#466763 Sep 26, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Of course. They were right, IF Jesus ever tried to pretend that he was somehow equal to the God of the Bible, it would have been blasphemy, a sin worthy of stoning.
However, that is not what happened. That was invented later, by the authors who were trying to spread their religion in Rome, so they could not tell the truth and make the Romans look bad. Rather, since the Temple had already been destroyed, making the Jews the scapegoat for the death of Jesus, the authors could suck up to Rome.
The myth of Jesus being "the" Son of God, or even a god himself, was a later addition, not invented until long after Jesus was rotted in his grave.
so be it; no Redemption for you!

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#466764 Sep 26, 2013
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text>Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
To New Age Spiritual Leader: The kingdom of heaven is within me. I am born again. I already am a member of the kingdom of heaven. Jesus dwells within me, and he will never leave me nor forsake me. Yes, we born-agains believe what Jesus said, that the kingdom of heaven is already within us. The Pharisees and others were demanding an earthly kingdom, where Jesus would reign and rule. That will not happen until the millennium, the thousand-year reign of Christ.
They and you cannot see a kingdom within the believers, but it is there. It is invisible to the carnal man.
Jesus continued describing how things will be at the end, and we are at the end right now. The following is the continuation of Jesus' answer to the Pharisees as to when the kingdom would be ushered in.
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Are you a "carnal man"?

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#466765 Sep 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
JESUS IS GOD!!!
"and the WORD was GOD..."
Please post the passage where Jesus calls himslef "God".

In order for you to do that, please look for something like "I am God", says Jesus.

Okay?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#466766 Sep 26, 2013
VIKING wrote:
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There's just no way you're an Irishman.......... there's just no way Mac. Off to work Mac.......I will address your post later. Have a wonderful Christian day.
Dunno how you figure that.
Iwas born and raised in West Kerry, starting in 1957.

Have a great rational day.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#466767 Sep 26, 2013
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text>
GoJohn: In the beginning was the Word...all things were made by Him.
He created you and gave you your mind and your ability with language, you ungrateful wretch.
I'm pretty sure that was a combination of genetics and early environment.

Which language, BTW? I speak several.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#466768 Sep 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
so be it; you may live for eternity without the Saviour/Redeemer:)
If geriatric medicine keeps getting better faster than I'm aging, that's a possibility.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466769 Sep 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Please post the passage where Jesus calls himslef "God".
In order for you to do that, please look for something like "I am God", says Jesus.
Okay?
okay: THE HOLY BIBLE

now maybe you'll understand it.....

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466770 Sep 26, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>If geriatric medicine keeps getting better faster than I'm aging, that's a possibility.
sure - have fun with your corrupting seed of what our bodies are intended to be while us Believers put on a new one fitted for the glories which we're unable to articualte in human words right now:)
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#466771 Sep 26, 2013
Chris Hedges, Christian Right and Rise of American Fascism

All debates with the Christian Right are useless. We cannot reach this movement. It does not want a dialogue. It cares nothing for rational thought and discussion... They hate us. They hate the liberal, enlightened world formed by the Constitution. Our opinions do not count.

This movement will not stop until we are ruled by Biblical Law, an authoritarian church intrudes in every aspect of our life, women stay at home and rear children, gays agree to be cured, abortion is considered murder, the press and the schools promote "positive" Christian values, the federal government is gutted, war becomes our primary form of communication with the rest of the world and recalcitrant non-believers see their flesh eviscerated at the sound of the Messiah's voice.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#466772 Sep 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
okay: THE HOLY BIBLE
now maybe you'll understand it.....
The Bible was written by men, and does not contain any passages that states which texts are of "God's inspiration".

You can pull a fast one over the gullible, but you won't with me.

Wanna try again?

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#466773 Sep 26, 2013
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text>He is the Creator of the world, Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Mighty God.
You have not attained the righteousness of Paul. Far from it. Your "righteousness" misses the mark. If you stay on the same track, you will die in your sins. Paul admitted that his salvation was not predicated on his following all the Jewish law, even though he had done a good job of it.
Silly, ignorant child - in your ignorance and hubris, you blaspheme against the God of the Bible by ascribing His traits to a false god like Jesus.

When Paul said that his salvation was not in following Torah law, he PROVED that he was a false prophet.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#466774 Sep 26, 2013
duststorm wrote:
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What do you do about the man born blind whom Jesus healed?
So what? The Bible mentions other healers as well. Are ALL of them the "only" begotten sons of God?

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#466775 Sep 26, 2013
duststorm wrote:
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GoJohn: In the beginning was the Word...all things were made by Him.
He created you and gave you your mind and your ability with language, you ungrateful wretch.
Jewish tron holds that the world was created by the God of the Bible reciting the whole of the Torah.- THAT was the "word" that was at the beginning. Jesus, on the other hand,was BORN to Mary and Joseph, somewhere around 9 - 4 BCE, a long time AFTER the creation.

Of course, that is treating the Genesis myths as if they were real events, which as we all know, they were not. The world was created by the accumulation of cosmic dust, about 4.5 billion years ago.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#466776 Sep 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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hi! "every knee shall bow and tongue confess that JESUS IS LORD/GOD!"
would you like to be one of the smart one's and start now?:-)
I confess that I don't understand how ANYONE can read the Bible and still worship the false god Jesus. These knees will NEVER bend to such false gods.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#466777 Sep 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
so be it; no Redemption for you!
And if you give an eagle a bicycle, it would not have to walk to get around...

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#466778 Sep 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
okay: THE HOLY BIBLE
now maybe you'll understand it.....
In other words, you cannot name a single verse where Jesus uttered such a blasphemy, but you are too dishonest to admit that.
duststorm

League City, TX

#466779 Sep 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Are you a "carnal man"?
We are all "carnal man" as long as we live in this body on this earth.
Those of us who are born again have the Holy Spirit dwelling within us, and he will never leave us.
Romans 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
duststorm

League City, TX

#466780 Sep 26, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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So what? The Bible mentions other healers as well. Are ALL of them the "only" begotten sons of God?
He is the only one in the history of the world who has healed someone blind from birth.
duststorm

League City, TX

#466781 Sep 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Please post the passage where Jesus calls himslef "God".
In order for you to do that, please look for something like "I am God", says Jesus.
Okay?
Translations
10.Mark 15:2
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it.

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