Why I’m no longer a Christian
Shaddup

United States

#466585 Sep 11, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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shaddupayurface & prove it yourself!
That's what I thought. You're a nitwit bathed in delusion.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#466586 Sep 11, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

Jesus didn't say anything in Revelation, you are making things up and trying to mislead others from the facts.
BTW _ I do respoect the words attributed to Jesus. Big difference than believing some guy who lived decades after Jesus, could even know what Jesus said.
Your claim is still nonsense.

Waaasssuuup wrote:
prove that Jesus didn't talk to john on the isle of patmos!

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

Why?
Do you accept second-hand stories as part of your theology?
waaasssuuup wrote:
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from the eye-witness and hand-picked apostles of Christ - YES!
from you and other mystic/agnostics - NO!
"John" has not been verified as one of the original Apostles.

Do you have a link that states he was? Please post it with support for the evidence and conclusion.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466587 Sep 11, 2013
Shaddup wrote:
<quoted text>That's what I thought. You're a nitwit bathed in delusion.
i pretty much think that you would have said something similar even if i had laid out the remedy for cancer. after all, i daily lay out the remedy for sin/evil;)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466588 Sep 11, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Jesus didn't say anything in Revelation, you are making things up and trying to mislead others from the facts.
BTW _ I do respoect the words attributed to Jesus. Big difference than believing some guy who lived decades after Jesus, could even know what Jesus said.
Your claim is still nonsense.
Waaasssuuup wrote:
prove that Jesus didn't talk to john on the isle of patmos!
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Why?
Do you accept second-hand stories as part of your theology?
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"John" has not been verified as one of the original Apostles.
Do you have a link that states he was? Please post it with support for the evidence and conclusion.
""John" has not been verified as one of the original Apostles"

LOL! your verifyers are my anticristers;)

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#466589 Sep 11, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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from the eye-witness and hand-picked apostles of Christ ...
Please provide these alleged documents.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#466590 Sep 11, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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""John" has not been verified as one of the original Apostles"
LOL! your verifyers are my anticristers;)
There are no surviving documents by the Apostle John.

The Gospel of John is anonymous and was ascribed to John over 100 years after John's death. The letters of John are known frauds and Revelation is a completely different John.

Your opinion belongs in the john.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466591 Sep 11, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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Please provide these alleged documents.
shouldn't be hard for you to find yourself, they're found within the #1 seller of all time

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#466592 Sep 11, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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There are no surviving documents by the Apostle John.
The Gospel of John is anonymous and was ascribed to John over 100 years after John's death. The letters of John are known frauds and Revelation is a completely different John.
Your opinion belongs in the john.
i don't believe your myths or those of your antichrist priests and prophets.....
Gut Stomper

Franklin, NC

#466593 Sep 11, 2013
Dumbass.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#466594 Sep 11, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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""John" has not been verified as one of the original Apostles"
LOL! your verifyers are my anticristers;)
And you didn't research your religion enough to understand it enough to tell me otherwise.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466595 Sep 12, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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And you didn't research your religion enough to understand it enough to tell me otherwise.
i respectfully disagree and exercise my freedom to go in the complete opposite spiritual path of you:)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466596 Sep 12, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
Dumbass.
i know, huh? can you believe these guys, trying to force their ridiculous beliefs down our throats and then getting furiously angry because we won't compromise ours!;)
Gut Stomper

Maryville, TN

#466598 Sep 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i know, huh? can you believe these guys, trying to force their ridiculous beliefs down our throats and then getting furiously angry because we won't compromise ours!;)
Their idiocy is strangely arousing.
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#466599 Sep 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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""John" has not been verified as one of the original Apostles"
LOL! your verifyers are my anticristers;)
John of Patmos was never one of the Twelve -- never claimed to be.

Read you scriptures.

Dummy.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466600 Sep 13, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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John of Patmos was never one of the Twelve -- never claimed to be.
Read you scriptures.
Dummy.
john was the brother of james, son of zebedee and 1 of the twelve. he was on the isle of patmos (similar to the penal colony of papion (the steve mcqueen/dustin hoffman movie) "for the testimony of Christ":-)
Chess

Cleveland, OH

#466601 Sep 13, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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john was the brother of james, son of zebedee and 1 of the twelve. he was on the isle of patmos (similar to the penal colony of papion (the steve mcqueen/dustin hoffman movie) "for the testimony of Christ":-)
Connecting the author of Revelation to the apostle is merely tradition first claimed in an extant writing by Justin Martyr in the 2nd century. He knew no better that others who thought the author may have been the John the presbyter or someone else.

In short, it is pure wishful thinking, not scriptural. There is nothing in your canon that requires or even suggests the author had any connection to the apostle other than the same name, a very common name in the time (the Apostle John, John the presbyter, John the baptist, John Mark,and so on), and the same silly myth.

On top of that, there are may reasons why he could not have been the apostle.

You really ought to learn your silly myth, goofy.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#466602 Sep 13, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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john was the brother of james, son of zebedee and 1 of the twelve. he was on the isle of patmos (similar to the penal colony of papion (the steve mcqueen/dustin hoffman movie) "for the testimony of Christ":-)
"John of Patmos is the name given by some modern scholars to the author of the Book of Revelation, the apocalyptic text forming part of the New Testament. The text of Revelation states that the author is called John and that he lives on the Greek island of Patmos, where by some, he is considered to be in exile as a result of anti-Christian persecution under the Roman emperor Domitian. Traditionally, the John who is the author of Revelation is considered to be John the Apostle, author of all the Johannine works, that is the Gospel of John, the first, second, and third epistles of John, as well as Revelation. However, in the case of Revelation, many modern scholars agree that it was written by a separate, otherwise unknown, author, to whom they have given the name John of Patmos." - Wiki.

See the important bit there? "...modern scholars agree that it was written by a separate, otherwise unknown, author, to whom they have given the name John of Patmos."

The book by Henri Charrière is called "Papillon". French for "Butterfly".

They actually didn't eff up the movie much.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466603 Sep 13, 2013
Chess wrote:
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Connecting the author of Revelation to the apostle is merely tradition first claimed in an extant writing by Justin Martyr in the 2nd century. He knew no better that others who thought the author may have been the John the presbyter or someone else.
In short, it is pure wishful thinking, not scriptural. There is nothing in your canon that requires or even suggests the author had any connection to the apostle other than the same name, a very common name in the time (the Apostle John, John the presbyter, John the baptist, John Mark,and so on), and the same silly myth.
On top of that, there are may reasons why he could not have been the apostle.
You really ought to learn your silly myth, goofy.
i guess you can consider me with justin martyr then, and know that we will usually always be on the opposite side of you and other scoffers/skeptics:)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#466604 Sep 13, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"John of Patmos is the name given by some modern scholars to the author of the Book of Revelation, the apocalyptic text forming part of the New Testament. The text of Revelation states that the author is called John and that he lives on the Greek island of Patmos, where by some, he is considered to be in exile as a result of anti-Christian persecution under the Roman emperor Domitian. Traditionally, the John who is the author of Revelation is considered to be John the Apostle, author of all the Johannine works, that is the Gospel of John, the first, second, and third epistles of John, as well as Revelation. However, in the case of Revelation, many modern scholars agree that it was written by a separate, otherwise unknown, author, to whom they have given the name John of Patmos." - Wiki.
See the important bit there? "...modern scholars agree that it was written by a separate, otherwise unknown, author, to whom they have given the name John of Patmos."
The book by Henri Charrière is called "Papillon". French for "Butterfly".
They actually didn't eff up the movie much.
most of the time and especially when endorsed by gaytheists, i take 'modern scholars' to mean those who "...noah....so shall it/they be in the end" and "will there be faith on earth when the Son of Man returns?" (Jesus) kinda people. you and chess wouldn't be endorsing them if the weren't!:)
Chess

Akron, OH

#466605 Sep 13, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i guess you can consider me with justin martyr then, and know that we will usually always be on the opposite side of you and other scoffers/skeptics:)
It's not about scoffing or skepticism. Your myth does not support your claim; indeed, even within your myth there are reasons to question this late tradition.

It is about you wanting it to be so because it is what you were taught -- taught with no canonical support.

Seems you are the scoffer in this case, dummy.

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