Why I’m no longer a Christian

Since: Dec 12

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#465779 Jul 31, 2013
Today I'm no longer a christian because I've discovered that I'm better suited to the life of a Jedi.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465780 Jul 31, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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According to the news reports since his demise, not much was learned.
I don't know about that <<Shrugs>> Someone goes on a power trip now...I don't know that 11 Million people could be killed simply due to one person's ideals today. Not just one faith was picked on mind you. Here is one link I found and a quote from it:

Exact numbers never will be known, but an estimated eleven million people died between 1933 and 1945 as a direct result of the Holocaust. About five million were among various groups of people who refused to acknowledge the leadership of Adolf Hitler or those whom the German Fuehrer disliked—political dissenters; artists; homosexuals; the mentally and physically handicapped; priests; the Roma and Sinti; Jehovah’s Witnesses; and Freemasons are just a few examples. Over half of the victims, nearly 6 million, were people of the Jewish faith.

http://www.nps.gov/wwii/historyculture/the-ho...

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#465781 Jul 31, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
My Grandfather on my Father's side was a flight Doctor, shot down during his tour for the U.S. Military during the war. On my Mother's side I have family that was sent to Camp. Whatever Hitler believed, he was a mass murderer that used religion as a tool to win a personal war. Some of us believe he must atone for his sin's, others think he dodged a bullet by committing suicide. Regardless, one can only hope a lesson was learned.
One of my uncles was in North Africa. The other helped halt the Japanese advance in PNG, esp Milne Bay.

I think that generation learned a lot about the dark side of human nature, from the Nazis. As for subsequent generations...who knows?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#465782 Jul 31, 2013
I apologize for calling you a liar.

You are merely insane.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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you may have to go back and re-read the post, particularly the part where i said "i know this is almost impossible for the bitter and deceived to do, but allow me to help you connect the dots"
i've heard you say that you have multiple degrees (lol), but don't let that get in the way of this simple equation:
peeps claim that hitler/nazis were Christian - i.e., followers of Christ
that would have to mean that their 'christ'(WHOM THEY SUPPOSEDLY WERE FOLLOWING) was also a nazi!
to that, i said "i don't see Jesus inciting His disciples to be genocidal murderers in the Gospels"
i don't know how much more simpler i can make this for you self-proclaimed genius':)

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465784 Jul 31, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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One of my uncles was in North Africa. The other helped halt the Japanese advance in PNG, esp Milne Bay.
I think that generation learned a lot about the dark side of human nature, from the Nazis. As for subsequent generations...who knows?
Hello Rosa, Good to read you :)

My two oldest boys went on a field trip to talk with Two Holocaust survivors, and to see a historical display of photographs and memorabilia. They (my children) are of the last generation that will be able to one on one talk to survivors. My oldest was particularly moved by the discussion that he was a part of. To be honest....he brought home questions that got my father and I digging into family history.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465788 Jul 31, 2013
satanlives wrote:
Hitler Was a Christian

e) Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.
I am as offended by Christians that state religion had nothing to do with Hitlers stance, as I am by others that say he was backed completely by the Christian faith. You are wrong in saying that "the Church" found him "Just" and "avenging for God" if you are speaking for the religion as a whole.

Since: Dec 12

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#465789 Jul 31, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
<quoted text>I am as offended by Christians that state religion had nothing to do with Hitlers stance, as I am by others that say he was backed completely by the Christian faith. You are wrong in saying that "the Church" found him "Just" and "avenging for God" if you are speaking for the religion as a whole.
The Vatican helped to fund his campaign but you probably meant something else.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465791 Jul 31, 2013
Here you go satanlives, a few articles for you to chew on for a few:

http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/cat...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21823...

One can place blame....or learn, its up to us imo.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465792 Jul 31, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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The Vatican helped to fund his campaign but you probably meant something else.
How long did the Vatican fund his campaign and why did they fund it?(What did they think they were funding....;)

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465793 Jul 31, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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examine the pictures of him praying, shaking hands with cardinals and celebrating christmas... and tell me the church didn't support him..
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
How interesting that we gave the same link.....

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465794 Jul 31, 2013
satanlives wrote:
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examine the pictures of him praying, shaking hands with cardinals and celebrating christmas... and tell me the church didn't support him..
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
When you say "The Church"...what Church exactly? What of the Catholics (and all other various Christian denominations) from here in the states that gave their lives to rescue those being subjected to Hitler in Germany?

Since: Dec 12

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#465795 Jul 31, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
<quoted text>How long did the Vatican fund his campaign and why did they fund it?(What did they think they were funding....;)
The death of Jews of course. The Catholics want to be top dog and used the death of Jesus as an excuse for that particular investment. A few others funded him as well but most of the dough came from the biggest christian church on earth.

Since: Dec 12

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#465796 Jul 31, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
<quoted text>How interesting that we gave the same link.....
LOL

Since: Dec 12

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#465797 Jul 31, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
<quoted text>When you say "The Church"...what Church exactly? What of the Catholics (and all other various Christian denominations) from here in the states that gave their lives to rescue those being subjected to Hitler in Germany?
A clever cover up. Dig deeper.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465798 Jul 31, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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The death of Jews of course. The Catholics want to be top dog and used the death of Jesus as an excuse for that particular investment. A few others funded him as well but most of the dough came from the biggest christian church on earth.
No...they were not looking for the death of the Jew's.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465799 Jul 31, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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A clever cover up. Dig deeper.
?? Deeper than what?

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#465800 Jul 31, 2013
ROLL TIDE ROLL!

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465801 Jul 31, 2013
From one of my links:

March 3rd, 1942.
His Excellency Franklin D. Roosevelt.,
President of the United States of America.
The White House.,
Washington. D.C.
Dear Mr. President:
May I take the liberty of encroaching on your valuable time and that of your staff at the White House? Mindful of the critical days the nation is now passing through, I do so only because the prerogative of your high office alone can decide my difficult and singular situation.
Permit me to outline as briefly as possible the circumstances of my position, the solution of which I feel could so easily be achieved should you feel moved to give your kind intercession and decision.
I am the nephew and only descendant of the ill-famed Chancellor and Leader of Germany who today so despotically seeks to enslave the free and Christian peoples of the globe.
Under your masterful leadership men of all creeds and nationalities are waging desperate war to determine, in the last analysis, whether they shall finally serve and live an ethical society under God or become enslaved by a devilish and pagan regime.
Everybody in the world today must answer to himself which cause they will serve. To free people of deep religious feeling there can be but one answer and one choice, that will sustain them always and to the bitter end.
I am one of many, but I can render service to this great cause and I have a life to give that it may, with the help of all, triumph in the end.
All my relatives and friends soon will be marching for freedom and decency under the Stars and Stripes. For this reason, Mr. President, I am respectfully submitting this petition to you to enquire as to whether I may be allowed to join them in their struggle against tyranny and oppression?

Cont...

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465802 Jul 31, 2013
At present this is denied me because when I fled the Reich in 1939 I was a British subject. I came to America with my Irish mother principally to rejoin my relatives here. At the same time I was offered a contract to write and lecture in the United States, the pressure of which did not allow me the time to apply for admission under the quota. I had therefore, to come as a visitor.
I have attempted to join the British forces, but my success as a lecturer made me probably one of the best attended political speakers, with police frequently having to control the crowds clamouring for admission in Boston, Chicago and other cities. This elicited from British officials the rather negative invitation to carry on.
The British are an insular people and while they are kind and courteous, it is my impression, rightly or wrongly, that they could not in the long run feel overly cordial or sympathetic towards an individual bearing the name I do. The great expense the English legal procedure demands in changing my name, is only a possible solution not within my financial means. At the same time I have not been successful in determining whether the Canadian Army would facilitate my entrance into the armed forces. As things are at the present and lacking any official guidance, I find that to attempt to enlist as a nephew of Hitler is something that requires a strange sort of courage that I am unable to muster, bereft as I am of any classification or official support from any quarter.
As to my integrity, Mr. President, I can only say that it is a matter of record and it compares somewhat to the foresighted spirit with which you, by every ingenuity known to statecraft, wrested from the American Congress those weapons which are today the Nation's great defense in this crisis. I can also reflect that in a time of great complacency and ignorance I tried to do those things which as a Christian I knew to be right. As a fugitive from the Gestapo I warned France through the press that Hitler would invade her that year. The people of England I warned by the same means that the so-called "solution" of Munich was a myth that would bring terrible consequences. On my arrival in America I at once informed the press that Hitler would loose his Frankenstein on civilization that year. Although nobody paid any attention to what I said, I continued to lecture and write in America. Now the time for writing and talking has passed and I am mindful only of the great debt my mother and I owe to the United States. More than anything else I would like to see active combat as soon as possible and thereby be accepted by my friends and comrades as one of them in this great struggle for liberty.

Cont....

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#465803 Jul 31, 2013
Your favorable decision on my appeal alone would ensure that continued benevolent spirit on the part of the American people, which today I feel so much a part of. I most respectfully assure you, Mr. President, that as in the past I would do my utmost in the future to be worthy of the great honour I am seeking through your kind aid, in the sure knowledge that my endeavors on behalf of the great principles of Democracy will at least bear favourable comparison to the activities of many individuals who for so long have been unworthy of the fine privilege of calling themselves Americans. May I therefore venture to hope, Mr. President, that in the turmoil of this vast conflict you will not be moved to reject my appeal for reasons which I am in no way responsible?
For me today there could be no greater honour, Mr. President, to have lived and to have been allowed to serve you, the deliverer of the American people from want, and no greater privelege then to have striven and had a small part in establishing the title you once will bear in posterity as the greatest Emancipator of suffering mankind in political history.
I would be most happy to give any additional information that might be required and I take the liberty of enclosing a circular containing details about myself.
Permit me, Mr. President, to express my heartfelt good wishes for your future health and happiness, coupled with the hope that you may soon lead all men who believe in decencey everywhere onward and upward to a glorious victory.
I am,
Very respectfully yours,
Patrick Hitler

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