Why I’m no longer a Christian

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#463238 Jun 12, 2013
duststorm wrote:
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It is a crazy, insane, exhilarating feeling to know that I am saved forever from all my sins.
It does sound crazy and insane to those who are not of the family of God yet.
I don't blame you for concluding that we born-agains are liars, because many erudite scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees concluded the same thing.
"to know that I am saved forever from all my sins."

but dear dusty, how on earth could you ever know for sure if all your sins are forgiven, if indeed you're not saved by grace alone but also by your good works? i.e., what do you use to measure if you're doing enough works to compensate for your inability to meet God's holy standards?

please remember that "to him who knows to do good but doesn't do it, to him it is sin"

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#463239 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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So no matter what you do, you are saved?
Your religion is not about responsibility, is it?
speaking of being responsible: wouldn't it be grand if all those with AIDS quarantined themselves to a restricted area until this mass epidemic was eliminated?:)

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#463240 Jun 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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in your silly made-up religion in which you're your own bishop and only follower; who/what is your "Jesus" and how is he your "Messiah"?
Unlike your silly, made-up religion, right? Lol.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#463241 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Unlike your silly, made-up religion, right? Lol.
redemption through faith in JESUS THE CHRIST is a made-up religion???

you must be reading too much of the 'popular science for atheist's and gays' magazine;)

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#463242 Jun 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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redemption through faith in JESUS THE CHRIST is a made-up religion???
Um, yeah.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#463243 Jun 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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speaking of being responsible: wouldn't it be grand if all those with AIDS quarantined themselves to a restricted area until this mass epidemic was eliminated?:)
Who would Jesus quarantine, o Christian?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#463244 Jun 12, 2013
duststorm wrote:
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What is your description of the true Messiah?
There is no such thing as a "True Messiah".

There is a Jewish Messiah:

The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach.

http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm

There is an Islamic Messiah:

The Qur'an states that Jesus, the Son of Mary (Arabic: Isa ibn Maryam), is the Messiah and Prophet sent to the Children of Israel.[Quran 3:45] Muslims believe Jesus is alive in Heaven and will return to Earth to defeat the Masih ad-Dajjal (false Messiah),[6] a figure similar to the Antichrist in Christianity, who will emerge shortly before him before Yawm al-Qiy&#257;mah ("the Day of Resurrection"). After he has destroyed al-Dajjal, his final task will be to become leader of the Muslims. Isa will unify the Muslim Ummah (the followers of Islam) under the common purpose of worshipping Allah alone in pure Islam, thereby ending divisions and deviations by adherents. Mainstream Muslims believe that at that time Isa will dispel Christian and Jewish claims about him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah#Islam

The Jewish and Islamic Messiah concepts are similar except that Islam claims Jesus is the Messiah.

Neither are anything like the pagan Deity you call a Christ.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#463245 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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So no matter what you do, you are saved?
Your religion is not about responsibility, is it?
It is all about avoiding responsibility.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#463246 Jun 12, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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It is all about avoiding responsibility.
No kidding. Commit bad deeds? Evil thoughts? No problem! Jesus already took responsibility for all that. Pity about your victims though, but whatever.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#463247 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Who would Jesus quarantine, o Christian?
i thought we were talking about taking personal responsibilities. therefore, Jesus says/would say "love your neighbor as yourself" i.e., if you wouldn't want to get AIDS, don't be running around and possibly infecting others.....so THERE!;)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#463248 Jun 12, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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There is no such thing as a "True Messiah".
There is a Jewish Messiah:
The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.
It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach.
http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm
There is an Islamic Messiah:
The Qur'an states that Jesus, the Son of Mary (Arabic: Isa ibn Maryam), is the Messiah and Prophet sent to the Children of Israel.[Quran 3:45] Muslims believe Jesus is alive in Heaven and will return to Earth to defeat the Masih ad-Dajjal (false Messiah),[6] a figure similar to the Antichrist in Christianity, who will emerge shortly before him before Yawm al-Qiy&#257;mah ("the Day of Resurrection"). After he has destroyed al-Dajjal, his final task will be to become leader of the Muslims. Isa will unify the Muslim Ummah (the followers of Islam) under the common purpose of worshipping Allah alone in pure Islam, thereby ending divisions and deviations by adherents. Mainstream Muslims believe that at that time Isa will dispel Christian and Jewish claims about him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah#Islam
The Jewish and Islamic Messiah concepts are similar except that Islam claims Jesus is the Messiah.
Neither are anything like the pagan Deity you call a Christ.
yeah....you'll be first in line for the mark of the beast all right!;)
Rosa Winkel

United States

#463249 Jun 12, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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There is no such thing as a "True Messiah".
There is a Jewish Messiah:
The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.
It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach.
http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm
There is an Islamic Messiah:
The Qur'an states that Jesus, the Son of Mary (Arabic: Isa ibn Maryam), is the Messiah and Prophet sent to the Children of Israel.[Quran 3:45] Muslims believe Jesus is alive in Heaven and will return to Earth to defeat the Masih ad-Dajjal (false Messiah),[6] a figure similar to the Antichrist in Christianity, who will emerge shortly before him before Yawm al-Qiy&#257;mah ("the Day of Resurrection"). After he has destroyed al-Dajjal, his final task will be to become leader of the Muslims. Isa will unify the Muslim Ummah (the followers of Islam) under the common purpose of worshipping Allah alone in pure Islam, thereby ending divisions and deviations by adherents. Mainstream Muslims believe that at that time Isa will dispel Christian and Jewish claims about him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah#Islam
The Jewish and Islamic Messiah concepts are similar except that Islam claims Jesus is the Messiah.
Neither are anything like the pagan Deity you call a Christ.
You sound ripe for the deceiving... The anti-Christ should fill your bill. He's due any day. But, all this can be found in The Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Rosa Winkel

United States

#463250 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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So no matter what you do, you are saved?
Your religion is not about responsibility, is it?
It's all about responsibility... Strawman.
Rosa Winkel

United States

#463251 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Unlike your silly, made-up religion, right? Lol.
Ours was "made up" by the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#463252 Jun 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i thought we were talking about taking personal responsibilities. therefore, Jesus says/would say "love your neighbor as yourself" i.e., if you wouldn't want to get AIDS, don't be running around and possibly infecting others.....so THERE!;)
And that relates to quarantining people how?

Christianity has not taught you much about logic, has it? Or compassion, for that matter. Which is odd, since I though compassion was one of Jesus' most important lessons. I guess you don't consider what Jesus said to be of much importance, at least not for you.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#463253 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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And that relates to quarantining people how?
Christianity has not taught you much about logic, has it? Or compassion, for that matter. Which is odd, since I though compassion was one of Jesus' most important lessons. I guess you don't consider what Jesus said to be of much importance, at least not for you.
since you (an atheist-gay) continues to insist that it's your job to tell me (a christian) how to be christian, i in return will assume that it's my job to tell you how to be a better atheist-gay!

you should be out commiting genocide against all those who won't submit to your socialist agenda AND you should be surrounding houses demanding that people come out so you can have group-sex with them like your forefathers did in sodom
duststorm

League City, TX

#463254 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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So no matter what you do, you are saved?
Your religion is not about responsibility, is it?
Please define the following vocabulary words:
eternal
everlasting
never
all
none
dead
alive

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#463255 Jun 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
since you (an atheist-gay) continues to insist that it's your job to tell me (a christian) how to be christian, i in return will assume that it's my job to tell you how to be a better atheist-gay!
you should be out commiting genocide against all those who won't submit to your socialist agenda AND you should be surrounding houses demanding that people come out so you can have group-sex with them like your forefathers did in sodom
Well, since I'm not out doing those things, I guess you just proved you have no idea what you are talking about. Good job!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#463256 Jun 12, 2013
duststorm wrote:
<quoted text>Please define the following vocabulary words:
eternal
everlasting
never
all
none
dead
alive
I'm sorry you find it difficult to answer questions directly. No worries though, Wasssssup has the same problem, so you aren't alone.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#463257 Jun 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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I'm sorry you find it difficult to answer questions directly. No worries though, Wasssssup has the same problem, so you aren't alone.
Well Well look what crawled back in!!!!!!!!! good to see you old man...

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