Why I’m no longer a Christian

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#462406 Jun 2, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>If there is 'tons of proof', why do you need faith? Why can't everyone see it if there's 'tons of proof'? If there were proof, as I said, you would have no need for faith. Neither would anyone else. They'd just know it was true and that would be the end of it.
Precisely.

Given proof, I'll have to change my views.

Won't stop me joining the Résistance, should someone - anyone - prove the Abrahamic one.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#462407 Jun 2, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>If there is 'tons of proof', why do you need faith? Why can't everyone see it if there's 'tons of proof'? If there were proof, as I said, you would have no need for faith. Neither would anyone else. They'd just know it was true and that would be the end of it.
If Jesus Christ is not in your heart!!!!! you will never believe... The evidence is there thats proof enough for me... you're the one with a harden heart

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#462408 Jun 2, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>only a idiot can't see it
If there were absolute proof, everyone on earth would see it. Everyone would believe exactly the same thing and there wouldn't be hundreds of religions much less 39,000 (and rising) sects/subsects of Christianity. So no, it's not that people who don't see things your way are idiots. It's that there isn't any proof. You need faith. Faith requires no proof.

It's okay that people believe with no proof. It's not okay for them to call others idiots who require proof to believe something exists.

Maybe you can read some of the words that came from Jesus' own mouth and see where he called anyone an idiot for not believing what he said. He treated all who came to him the same way..with love, compassion and respect. He didn't require that they believe him. He gave them lessons and planted a seed. He didn't stalk them afterward if they didn't believe.

Maybe if you actually read his words a few times...those words before he was crucified and was actually teaching...you will see the world a little differently. Maybe you'll see yourself a little differently. I can only hope that one day you will really read his words and really live by them instead of just claiming to do so.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#462409 Jun 2, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Precisely.
Given proof, I'll have to change my views.
Won't stop me joining the Résistance, should someone - anyone - prove the Abrahamic one.
Stop brown nosing WN... and ask Jesus in your sorry life boy... you won't regret it... if you don't you will... Jesus loves you mac, and so do I

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#462410 Jun 2, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>If there were absolute proof, everyone on earth would see it. Everyone would believe exactly the same thing and there wouldn't be hundreds of religions much less 39,000 (and rising) sects/subsects of Christianity. So no, it's not that people who don't see things your way are idiots. It's that there isn't any proof. You need faith. Faith requires no proof.
It's okay that people believe with no proof. It's not okay for them to call others idiots who require proof to believe something exists.
Maybe you can read some of the words that came from Jesus' own mouth and see where he called anyone an idiot for not believing what he said. He treated all who came to him the same way..with love, compassion and respect. He didn't require that they believe him. He gave them lessons and planted a seed. He didn't stalk them afterward if they didn't believe.
Maybe if you actually read his words a few times...those words before he was crucified and was actually teaching...you will see the world a little differently. Maybe you'll see yourself a little differently. I can only hope that one day you will really read his words and really live by them instead of just claiming to do so.
we believe in diff words! I believe the holy bible..

Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.

Just walk beside me and be my friend.

LOVE YA BRO.CLOWNIE
Gut Stomper

Maggie Valley, NC

#462411 Jun 2, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Precisely.
Given proof, I'll have to change my views.
Won't stop me joining the Résistance, should someone - anyone - prove the Abrahamic one.
The only view you seem to favor is the interior of another's ass.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#462412 Jun 2, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>Stop brown nosing WN... and ask Jesus in your sorry life boy... you won't regret it... if you don't you will... Jesus loves you mac, and so do I
Are you really surprised that other people see things similarly to the way I do? Is that brown-nosing? I think not.

Your words to people on this thread do not back up your claim of following Jesus. Maybe you should be more worried about actually doing that than accusing others of things you don't seem to be able to comprehend.

There are many here who disagree with you. They're not brown-nosing each other. They just disagree with your behavior here. How can you blame them when you slap Jesus in the face every time you type? You say you love Jesus, but you prove daily that you don't. No one is going to your example and be a jackass for Jesus when it's so darned hypocritical.

You may think you won't be judged. But according to the Bible you claim to believe in but most evidently have never read, you will be at the top of the heap of those who are judged because you have claimed Jesus and yet not done anything he instructed you to do. Topix counts in that department. If God is all powerful, he can see your Topix posts. He won't worry what you call yourself, whether it's a clown or a waassuupp. He'll know it's you. And he'll know how badly you've represented him to others, thereby turning them away from wanting to even hear anything about him because of your behavior and the behavior of others here who have demanded of others that which you are unwilling to do.
You Fail

Redding, CA

#462413 Jun 2, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>If there were absolute proof, everyone on earth would see it.
Do you believe there are absolutes then?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#462414 Jun 2, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>we believe in diff words! I believe the holy bible..
Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.
Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.
Just walk beside me and be my friend.
LOVE YA BRO.CLOWNIE
Why would I wish to be your friend? You have not treated me as someone for whom you have respect. Someone for whom you have anything for except condemnation. For a long time, you acted as though you had some redeeming qualities. Then you stopped and started acting like all the other nasty, arrogant, willfully ignorant fundies.

I happen to know that you work in a field that requires compassion and care. It's sad to know it's all just for show that you pretend to care about others.

Under your terms, being a friend would require that a person submit to your views at all times. That's not friendship. That's manipulation. I also realize that it's the indoctrination of the dogmatic religion you follow, because you're too lazy to actually look into things on your own. You just listen to the hate and bigotry and it's then implanted in your mind and actions.

I can't just overlook that. Many people who are not nasty to people, are intelligent and use that intelligence to do research into their religion, remain in that religion because it makes them a better person.

It doesn't seem to have done that for you. You have become a worse and worse person over the last year. If that's what your beliefs do to people, why would I want to join up and be your friend?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#462415 Jun 2, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Are you really surprised that other people see things similarly to the way I do? Is that brown-nosing? I think not.
Your words to people on this thread do not back up your claim of following Jesus. Maybe you should be more worried about actually doing that than accusing others of things you don't seem to be able to comprehend.
There are many here who disagree with you. They're not brown-nosing each other. They just disagree with your behavior here. How can you blame them when you slap Jesus in the face every time you type? You say you love Jesus, but you prove daily that you don't. No one is going to your example and be a jackass for Jesus when it's so darned hypocritical.
You may think you won't be judged. But according to the Bible you claim to believe in but most evidently have never read, you will be at the top of the heap of those who are judged because you have claimed Jesus and yet not done anything he instructed you to do. Topix counts in that department. If God is all powerful, he can see your Topix posts. He won't worry what you call yourself, whether it's a clown or a waassuupp. He'll know it's you. And he'll know how badly you've represented him to others, thereby turning them away from wanting to even hear anything about him because of your behavior and the behavior of others here who have demanded of others that which you are unwilling to do.
Promoting unbelief.

One post at a time.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#462416 Jun 2, 2013
Clownie does not seem to understand that two people can disagree - as you and I sometimes do - without it affecting the relationship between them.

Never occurs to him that this blows his credibilty right out of the water.

And yet he claims to be the arbiter of right and wrong.
You Fail

Redding, CA

#462418 Jun 2, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
Clownie does not seem to understand that two people can disagree - as you and I sometimes do - without it affecting the relationship between them.
Never occurs to him that this blows his credibilty right out of the water.
And yet he claims to be the arbiter of right and wrong.
Who is the arbiter of right and wrong in your view?
Hecate Goddess of Death

Central Point, OR

#462419 Jun 2, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>you are real big on the gay thing huh???? go gargle a pair
Don't accuse others of your crimes, clownie. Everyone here knows how obsessed you are with homosexuality, and what a flaming closet gay you are. Step out, and be proud!!
Hecate Goddess of Death

Central Point, OR

#462420 Jun 2, 2013
Scott Gut-Stomped Lawest wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay attention: The Law
Leviticus 18:22, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Leviticus 20:13, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Deuteronomy 23:17, "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel."
The kicker:Matthew 5:17-20
English Standard Version (ESV)
Christ Came to Fulfill the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
The conclusion: Fit yourself for a millstone because that would be better for you.
Dumbass fundie shift has clocked in.
Hecate Goddess of Death

Central Point, OR

#462421 Jun 2, 2013
Adam aka Gutless Stump LaWest wrote:
The scripture states that your end IS hell.
It even tells me that there isn't anything i can do about it.
1 John 5:16 (NIV)
I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that.
Mark 3:28-30 (ESV)
“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—for they were saying,“He has an unclean spirit.”
Conclusion: You've blasphemed the Holy Spirit and you can't be forgiven and your end is hell... And i don't have to pray for you. That's why i just come here to watch. There IS NO DEBATE. IT'S A DONE DEAL.
There is no jesus, there is no "judgement day," and your buybull is a pile of shit, just like you.

Wipe that jesus goo off your chin.
Hecate Goddess of Death

Central Point, OR

#462422 Jun 2, 2013
Adam wrote:
Genesis 1
28 And God blessed the bullshit, and God never said a thing, because it's all bullshit and anyone who believes it is a sucker, and that includes me....
After spewing that shit, does your hat fit better now?
Hecate Goddess of Death

Central Point, OR

#462423 Jun 2, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
It came from the Bible... kid.
And the buybull is bullshit, Scottie. Give it up and get a life.
Hecate Goddess of Death

Central Point, OR

#462424 Jun 2, 2013
Adam wrote:
He's coming...
Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Conclusion: put on a fresh pair of shorts, cause you gonna shit yourself. NO DEBATE.
Is your hand tired, Scottie? That's one muscular forearm you've got!!

The Unholy Buybull is your Porn, isn't it?
Hecate Goddess of Death

Central Point, OR

#462425 Jun 2, 2013
Hecate Goddess of Death wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a lying piece of shit. You are redneck KKK all the way through, Scott.
Gut Stomper wrote:
<quoted text>
I've Goolged the hell outta Scot LaWest, Scott LaWest, Scottie LaWest... Nothing. I mean no return of any kind.
Could you come off another hint, Mere bear! XO!
And we all know how "truthful" you are, don't we, Scott?

Are you still showing porn to pre-teenaged girls in your mother's basement?
Gut Stomper

Maggie Valley, NC

#462426 Jun 2, 2013
Hecate Goddess of Death wrote:
<quoted text>
Dumbass undie shit has clocked in.
Noted.

Still can find a SINGLE person in America named Scot LaWest.

Please, just point us in the right direction... Liar.
Or, are you:

All bluff and no gruff?

Bwahahahahaha!
That's right! You dared me and I handed you your ass!

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