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1 Corinthians 12

3) Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit.

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Here another text by James, Jesus brother:

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Faith and Deeds

14 WHAT GOOD IS IT, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IF SOMEONE CLAIMS TO HAVE FAITH BUT HAS NO DEEDS? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them,“Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

18 But someone will say,“You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONE GOD. GOOD! EVEN THE DEMONS BELIEVE THAT—AND SHUDDER.

20 YOU FOOLISH PERSON, DO YOU WANT EVIDENCE THAT FAITH WITHOUT DEEDS IS USELESS? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says,“Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24 YOU SEE THAT A PERSON IS CONSIDERED RIGHTEOUS BY WHAT THEY DO AND NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
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You read that Demon? YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONE GOD. GOOD! EVEN THE DEMONS BELIEVE THAT—AND SHUDDER.

You try to fool us in believing you are a true Christian saved by his grace. But you are nothing but a fool caught in his own lies. Jesus does not believe in you rescue, neither do I.
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Those are hollow phrases demon. This is the perversion of Paul, himself a mass murderer seeking to flee the consequences of his evil action. He created himself a pardon. Like you he wants to be "saved". He never met Jesus but he wrote 80% of the New Testament bending Jesus words. To Paul belief in your own saving may be enough, but not Jesus.
The words of Jesus are clear enough and they still doom you, demon, read with me:
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Did you read that: AND THEY WILL WEED OUT OF HIS KINGDOM EVERYTHING THAT CAUSES SIN AND ALL WHO DO EVIL. That means you demon.
And did you understand the parable? Jesus did not say: let the weed grow along with the wheat so it might become wheat. Like weed grows between wheat, evil people mingle among good people. But they remain evil. A demon will remain a demon. He can not change his character. That is why they change the religion to suit their needs.
Jesus does not even believe that these evildoers can be cured! He only says let them be. Let them believe whatever they believe. When the time comes the RIGHTEOUS will be saved. You read that demon? The RIGHTEOUS not the believers.
We have all tasted your desire to cause sin en do evil. You can not control it. You are a demon. It is the nature of evil beings that they want to be rich without working hard, to be rewarded heaven without earning it by good deeds. Demons think they can outsmart God.
You think you can fool God by praising him. You think he will be fooled by your flattery, you hollow belief that is devoid of good deeds. I wish you good luck, all of you demons. The grace of God will certainly end your misery..
Your name demon is "fool"
Sure, Chess, sure.

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i really don't know how to respond to this; i'm frustrated to no end by legalistic christians who agree with our adversaries as if we're confined to a small box, but evil people have every right do & say what they wish. this is insane thinking and i say what i say to prove my point. you're either gonna hafta understand this or be as vigilant to point out everyone elses faults equally or you're being a hypocrite on this debate forum:-)
You're not frustrated by 'legalistic Christians'. You're frustrated by people with morals and ethics.

I realize you are probably not married. However, the manner in which you speak to women here is degrading and thoroughly disgusting. Yet you claim to have a higher moral code than do those who don't believe the way you do. Why is it that most of those people have a higher moral code than YOU if you have something special and better?

You are a disgusting person. Your creepy talk to women leads people to believe that you are capable of almost any crime, rape being number one among those things. When a woman here says 'NO', you just keep going. You don't understand boundaries, much less morals or the teachings of Jesus. Where in your holy book does he ever treat women the way you do? Much less, where are the verses explaining him speaking to women the way you do?

You think because you have babbled the secret mantra that you are safe from punishment. You're not. You will be judged just as everyone else will be. You keep telling non-Christians how they will be judged but believe that you are free from this judgment. According to the Bible you have never read, this is definitely not true. Someone convinced you that you could continue your creepy behavior and still get your pie in the sky. Good luck with that.

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Apr 24, 2013
 
Sorry for the delay in my responce. I've had too little time to keep up with all of the threads upon which I am posting.
Expert in all Things wrote:
Another hack trying to deceive,
There are two key facts that need to be considered.(1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word:“disaster”(NIV, HCSB),“calamity”(NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe”(NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.
Liam R wrote:
One need only look at Genesis to see the word in use, in references to the Tree of Knowledge of Good and >> Evil <<. THAT is NOT a reference to disaster or calamity. Going a little bit further, Genesis 13 says that the men of Sodom were >> evil <<.

Numbers 14:26 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
14:27 How long shall I bear with this >> evil << congregation, which murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me.

There are a LOT more examples that show that that verse meant literally that ALL >> evil << comes from the God of the Bible.
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So you no longer want to talk about the first scripture you quoted and let my argument stand?
Next time, try reading for comprehension. I already addressed your point, and clearly demonstrated it to be false. The word used in Isaiah is the same word used in Genesis. The Bible does not allow the concept of a Satan, ALL evil that exists is from the God of the Bible. Oh, with one important exception, I suppose - humans have free will, and that includes the ability to deliberately choose to commit acts of evil.
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Mark wrote:
Here another text by James, Jesus brother:
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Faith and Deeds
14 WHAT GOOD IS IT, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IF SOMEONE CLAIMS TO HAVE FAITH BUT HAS NO DEEDS? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them,“Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say,“You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONE GOD. GOOD! EVEN THE DEMONS BELIEVE THAT—AND SHUDDER.
20 YOU FOOLISH PERSON, DO YOU WANT EVIDENCE THAT FAITH WITHOUT DEEDS IS USELESS? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says,“Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24 YOU SEE THAT A PERSON IS CONSIDERED RIGHTEOUS BY WHAT THEY DO AND NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
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You read that Demon? YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONE GOD. GOOD! EVEN THE DEMONS BELIEVE THAT—AND SHUDDER.
You try to fool us in believing you are a true Christian saved by his grace. But you are nothing but a fool caught in his own lies. Jesus does not believe in you rescue, neither do I.
You've been outed, Chess.

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> You're not frustrated by 'legalistic Christians'. You're frustrated by people with morals and ethics.
I realize you are probably not married. However, the manner in which you speak to women here is degrading and thoroughly disgusting. Yet you claim to have a higher moral code than do those who don't believe the way you do. Why is it that most of those people have a higher moral code than YOU if you have something special and better?
You are a disgusting person. Your creepy talk to women leads people to believe that you are capable of almost any crime, rape being number one among those things. When a woman here says 'NO', you just keep going. You don't understand boundaries, much less morals or the teachings of Jesus. Where in your holy book does he ever treat women the way you do? Much less, where are the verses explaining him speaking to women the way you do?
You think because you have babbled the secret mantra that you are safe from punishment. You're not. You will be judged just as everyone else will be. You keep telling non-Christians how they will be judged but believe that you are free from this judgment. According to the Bible you have never read, this is definitely not true. Someone convinced you that you could continue your creepy behavior and still get your pie in the sky. Good luck with that.
You are such a liar.
Jealousy has destroyed your life leaving you bitter and hateful.
Topic is your Hell.
We see your daily suffering.
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Liam R wrote:
Sorry for the delay in my responce. I've had too little time to keep up with all of the threads upon which I am posting.
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Next time, try reading for comprehension. I already addressed your point, and clearly demonstrated it to be false. The word used in Isaiah is the same word used in Genesis. The Bible does not allow the concept of a Satan, ALL evil that exists is from the God of the Bible. Oh, with one important exception, I suppose - humans have free will, and that includes the ability to deliberately choose to commit acts of evil.
You sound evil, to me.
Yes. Yes, you are evil.

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kait stalked me here from another thread (why should Jesus love me) cuz she's attracted to me and now she thinks she owns the place;)
Ron White was right about you: You can't fix stupid.

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"Kait's bi. She gets the best of both worlds"
hey everyone, look at me - i have sex with everything i want(probably not) and that makes me so very special!!!
what does steph think about it when you cheat on her and ride a big one?;)
You claimed to be bisexual, yet you try to debase Kait for being the same. What's wrong with you?

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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"ps. Did ya ever think, maybe God is talking to you through me?:)"
i absolutely think that God could use you to encourage me. i also know that you're not perfect and that you've offended me before too. weren't you the same person who told me that i was a perv and to "get lost"?
sister, why don't you take the plank out of your own eye before you try to remove the sliver in mine:)
You are called a perv because your words here say that about you. YOUR words. No one else's.

You are called creepy because your posts to women are just that. You are called ignorant because you seem not to have ever read the Bible except for the parts that condemn others. You didn't read the verses before and after the verses you quote either or you would know that most of them do not apply. In fact, Jesus instructs you not to judge others but you slap him in the face and do as you will.

This is why you are seen in the light you don't like, but you don't have any desire to change to be a better person and follow the teachings of Jesus.
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You are such a liar.
Jealousy has destroyed your life leaving you bitter and hateful.
Topic is your Hell.
We see your daily suffering.
She is a nice person respected and appreciated by good people and God. And coming from a demon, your words are twisted form of praise too. Can one be righteous and not be hated by demons? No, their utter disgust is their highest praise.
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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>You claimed to be bisexual, yet you try to debase Kait for being the same. What's wrong with you?
You sound angry and bitter.
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<quoted text> You are called a perv because your words here say that about you. YOUR words. No one else's.
You are called creepy because your posts to women are just that. You are called ignorant because you seem not to have ever read the Bible except for the parts that condemn others. You didn't read the verses before and after the verses you quote either or you would know that most of them do not apply. In fact, Jesus instructs you not to judge others but you slap him in the face and do as you will.
This is why you are seen in the light you don't like, but you don't have any desire to change to be a better person and follow the teachings of Jesus.
Perhaps your giner has grown together.

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my name is 'Possessed'.....with the Holy Ghost that is!
as for you; do you want to be cast into the abyss before your time?;)
Are you now claiming that you can cast people into the abyss?

If anyone is going to be cast in the abyss, it is you. In fact, you are already in the abyss and don't seem to realize it.

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G_O_D wrote:
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If you go on in the same vulgar manner, you will get treated the same. It has nothing to do with religion. Wish you were smart enough to grasp that simple truth.
We will hope for a great revelation for wassie. I'm doubtful, but strange things do happen in this here universe.

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i'd grasp it if it were the truth, my friend:)
As long as you are convinced that you are not expected to behave in a more moral way and that you are forgiven for things you do repeatedly, you will not grasp it. I think that's because you don't want to think that if there were such a thing as a Judgment, you would be judged just as everyone else as the Bible says. But you don't really believe the Bible. You don't believe a single teaching of Jesus (or you'd practice what he taught) and therefore no one really thinks of you as anything but a braying jackass.

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Snevaeh legna wrote:
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You hit the nail on the head...LOL
He's is a 'Demon.' No real Christian, with 'Love' in their heart would act like that, ever. I get it now...:)
ps.. Well now I know how to get rid of him... lol
There are many Christians who don't act with love in their heart.

I know that other Christians wish to say they are not Christians and separate themselves from the person who behaves as wassuupp does, but it can't be done.

You have to realize one thing:

There are good and bad people in the world. Some good people identify themselves as Christians and take the words of the Bible and try to make themselves and the world around them a better place. Then, there are some bad people in the world who identify as Christians (which is all it takes to be a Christian!) and take the Bible and use it as an excuse to do as they please because they have been led to believe that anything they do is okay if they say it is done in the name of God.

Recent actions in Boston tell you that there are good and bad people in Islam. Two you men (at least) bombed people who were doing nothing but running a race or watching it. They did it in defense of their religion. The Imam has decided not to say prayers for these two people because they did not act according to the teachings of Islam and he basically disowned them as Muslims.

There are good and bad people in every walk of life. Covering your eyes and saying 'You're not a REAL Christian' doesn't work in a world which is now not only filled with skeptics (as it always has been) but who now are taking their constitutional rights to tell Christians and other religionists exactly what is thought of what their religion teaches to make them like they are.

More and more, I see what extremist religion does to harm this world. I am going to do my best for the rest of my life to stop the extremists. I don't want anyone not to have the right to believe anything they like. I want them not to be able to harm others because they believe it.

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The casual observer wrote:
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You are such a liar.
Jealousy has destroyed your life leaving you bitter and hateful.
Topic is your Hell.
We see your daily suffering.
No you are wrong! She hit the nail on the head WASP! Your just another sock...

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1 Corinthians 12
3) Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit.
Take it away, waaasssuuup!
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Take it away, waaasssuuup! Really???

You are talking to yourself! OMG... Busted!!!

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