Why I’m no longer a Christian

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#455544 Mar 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Agreed.
Yoa know G. this is one of those things that people jsut can't seemt o grasp.

Jesus chose his Apostles. If he chose them, that would mean, that they had a purpose for Jesus - Judas to hand him over.

Unfortunately, people can't realize that if this didn't occur, they wouldn't have their religion as it is today.

So why do they reject the one person who made their religion come to fruition?

If they could understand, religion would go away. This is the fear they cannot fathom, even though religion has no bearing whatsoever in their "salvation".

DOH!!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#455545 Mar 29, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Not betrayed - "hand over" - at Jesus' request.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/...
Judas rcvd a bad wrap from men, because they don't believe Jesus.
You are still confused.
i think you're confused.

God doesn't force anyone to be betray Him (through new age-ism or otherwise), but He's wise enough to cause all things to work according to His plans.

so, God didn't create the hate in the haters nor the greed in the judas' of the world, but they can serve as a contrast to show forth His Goodness;)

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#455546 Mar 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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sorry, but gay crap just kinda bugs me.
btw - if i'm not mistaken, you're mixed (afro-caucasion) right?:)
Not afro. Brazilian father with Incan and Mayan heritage German mother. Why?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#455547 Mar 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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sorry, but gay crap just kinda bugs me.
btw - if i'm not mistaken, you're mixed (afro-caucasion) right?:)
Gay crap? How is it gay crap? I didn't mind the picture.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#455548 Mar 29, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Yoa know G. this is one of those things that people jsut can't seemt o grasp.
Jesus chose his Apostles. If he chose them, that would mean, that they had a purpose for Jesus - Judas to hand him over.
Unfortunately, people can't realize that if this didn't occur, they wouldn't have their religion as it is today.
So why do they reject the one person who made their religion come to fruition?
If they could understand, religion would go away. This is the fear they cannot fathom, even though religion has no bearing whatsoever in their "salvation".
DOH!!
People like to eat meat but they can't stand the thought of a slaughter house.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#455549 Mar 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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God doesn't force anyone to be betray Him ..
True, He asked Judas to play an important part in His life and Judas reluctantly did God's Will.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#455550 Mar 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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... God didn't create the hate in ...
Then who created hate ?
Rosa Winkel

Surry Hills, Australia

#455551 Mar 29, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
LupyLu wrote:
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Charming.
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I'm callin' POE on this one.
Do U reckon?

Apparently it's a Jehovah's Witness, which says a lot. Here a few gems from their forum.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#455552 Mar 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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People like to eat meat but they can't stand the thought of a slaughter house.
Not all people. I've worked in a slaughter house as part of my apprenticeship and I loved it.
Rosa Winkel

Surry Hills, Australia

#455553 Mar 29, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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Nothing wrong with that. If it was boobs you'd love it. Hush bro.
Never mind, Lu. I can't imagine any of the girls on this thread lifting their shirts when Whasssup's around.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#455554 Mar 29, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
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Do U reckon?
Apparently it's a Jehovah's Witness, which says a lot. Here a few gems from their forum.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-...
Lovely... <rolling my eyes>
Rosa Winkel

Surry Hills, Australia

#455555 Mar 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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True, He asked Judas to play an important part in His life and Judas reluctantly did God's Will.
Judas had a role to play. But ever since, his name is synonymous with snitch.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#455556 Mar 29, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
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Never mind, Lu. I can't imagine any of the girls on this thread lifting their shirts when Whasssup's around.
LOL... Yep, not going to happen.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#455557 Mar 29, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>Judas had a role to play. But ever since, his name is synonymous with snitch.
Yeah, it's sad, he didn't want to and then felt so guilty.

Since: Jul 08

Fenton, MI

#455558 Mar 29, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Chess Jurist wrote:
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....
You first, dude; go back to school and GET AN EDUCATION.
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I second the motion.

Since: Jul 08

Fenton, MI

#455559 Mar 29, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
Here's an Easter joke that suits this thread:
Top Ten Reasons That Beer Is Better Than Jesus:-
1) No one will kill you for not drinking beer.
2) Beer doesn't tell you how to have sex.
3) They don't force beer on minors who cannot think for themselves.
4) Beer has never caused a major war.
5) When you have a beer you don't knock on people's doors trying to give it away.
6) Nobody has ever been burned at the stake, hanged or tortured over a beer.
7) You don't have to wait 2000 years for a second beer.
8) There are laws saying beer labels cannot lie to you.
9) You can prove you have a beer.
10) If you are devoted to beer then there are groups who can help you stop.
from http://morticom.com/jokesjesus.htm
Funny.

Since: Jul 08

Fenton, MI

#455560 Mar 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"See my avatar? That's me!! Trust me, I wouldn't lie"
so was i gullible to think i was talking to the hottie with the 34-24-32 figure looking over her foster grants?:(
Creepy Christian stalker.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#455561 Mar 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i think you're confused.
God doesn't force anyone to be betray Him (through new age-ism or otherwise), but He's wise enough to cause all things to work according to His plans.
so, God didn't create the hate in the haters nor the greed in the judas' of the world, but they can serve as a contrast to show forth His Goodness;)
We weren't talking about "God", but of Jesus.

And no, Jesus didn't force anyone to do the things you think they did.

“But you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.
Already your horn has been raised,
your wrath has been kindled,
your star has shown brightly,
and your heart has […].[57]
“Truly […] your last […] become [—about two and a half lines missing—], grieve [—about two lines missing—] the ruler, since he will be destroyed. And then the image of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, for prior to heaven, earth, and the angels,
that generation, which is from the eternal realms, exists. Look, you have been told everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star.”

Their high priests murmured because [he] had gone into the guest room for his prayer. But some scribes were there watching carefully in order to arrest him during the prayer, for they were afraid of the people, since he was regarded by all as a prophet.
They approached Judas and said to him,“What are you doing here? You are Jesus’ disciple.”
Judas answered them as they wished. And he received some money and handed him over to them.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/...

"The star that leads the way is your star."
- you should learn to understand this statement by Jesus.

Since: Jul 08

Fenton, MI

#455562 Mar 29, 2013
LupyLu wrote:
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Fair enough. It's something one does to appease others, not Law, that is basically my whole point. Plagiarism laws do not yet cover public Internet forums. It is not something I do and was a mistake yes, but no crime or theft was committed. I hope this is clear. I also hope other new posters don't ever get called thieves if they make a mistake, one that is not, in fact, a crime. Theft is a crime, punishable by Law.
Strawman.

You have never been accused of a crime.

You've been accused of plagiarism -- literary theft.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#455563 Mar 29, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i think you're confused.
God doesn't force anyone to be betray Him (through new age-ism or otherwise), but He's wise enough to cause all things to work according to His plans.
so, God didn't create the hate in the haters nor the greed in the judas' of the world, but they can serve as a contrast to show forth His Goodness;)
I'm far from being confused.

If you had read this book, you will realize that there are too many unresolved paradoxes associated to "God" that literally shows that there isn't any god that is in this world.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Paradox-God-Science...

As for your statement above....
"He's wise enough to cause all things to work according to His plans."

I also recently posted this response on another forum, which sort of puts this false belief into a better perspective:

If you believe that "God" does cause things to happen in this world, then you will be able to choose one of these possibilities and show proof it applies.....

Since numerouw people have been killed , "in His name", "He" is an accomplice to murder - against "His" own commandment.

--OR--

You can refer to men had free will when they killed, as we do today, thus "God" had stepped back from the games, but still enjoyed watching how others first killed other humans in "His name, and then praised "Him" when they succeeded in killing hundreds or thousands of innocent people. And "He" accepted these crimes as just.

--OR--

You can look at these paradoxes and view that "God" really hasn't any control over anyone in this plane of existence. Therefore, men have killed innocent men, in which "God" allowed it to occur, because "God" cannot access this domain.
- more than common is the response that I have rcvd from so-called "Christians" when I've given this statement to them. They like to immediately lean on, "that is because Satan rules this world".
+ which actually collapses their omnipotence and their "God has a plan for everything" theory. Because, if "Satan" is in control, "God" either knows about it and allows it to happen, or "God" likes to have "Satan" in control of "His children", because he doesn't care or can't access them.

Do you think "God" or men have killed innocent people?

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