Why Iím no longer a Christian

“Talk Nerdy 2 me (>-<)”

Since: Dec 08

Reno

#452757 Mar 14, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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I don't get some people's obsession with who might be a sock puppet. Who cares?
That was a first for me. Another unwipeable poo?

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#452758 Mar 14, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Hi, I haven't had the pleasure of following your posts, so I don't have the insight as to what you believe... but thank you for joining in...
Oh, I been around, "going to and fro in the land, and walking up and down on it" >grin<, just not so much lately. Life happens, and all that, yaknow. Thanx for the shout and backatcha. My beliefs? I believe (he said, striking a noble pose) as sayeth the prophet Steven of Martin, that sex is the most beautiful thing, that money can buy. Beyond that, ehh.....>shrug< I try to just roll with it.
Snevaeh legna wrote:
<quoted text>Who are you referring to as a mythical culprit? God? If so, do you believe he is/was just a simple man?
No, not at all. I'm addressing the antagonist in Gen 3, from your proposition. I think it's an assumption that the creature was the critter named satan, and an even bigger assumption that it is a real being, "causing" this or that changes in the Biblical texts down thru the ages. man can get enough mischief on his own without getting away with blaming it on chimeras and sprites.
Snevaeh legna wrote:
<quoted text>Okay, what say you on this...Fact, The so-called "revisions" of the King James Bible prior to 1800 were to correct typographical errors, add notes, and omit the Apocrypha from between the Testaments.
There were no changes in the actual 'Text' of the King James Bible.

***The REAL changes (over 36,000 of them) didn't start until the modern revisionists came on the scene.
Oh my!

Let me be sure I understand. It's your position that the KJV itself exists in some pristine divinely-inspired state, and that it was primarily subsequent to that, that the most numerous and egregious changes were made? >scratches head< hmmmm....

If I gotcha right, you might want to check into the first 400 years of Christian history, prior to the solidification of the proto-Catholic Church. THAT'S when it was hellzapoppin' in the realms of "sacred editorial license".
Snevaeh legna wrote:
<quoted text>Remember, this is just great history and knowledge, if nothing else...

It's all good, and your personal choices are your own...
Roger that.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#452759 Mar 14, 2013
Hagen wrote:
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LOL Prove it. The only puppets I KNOW KNOW are the ones that imitated Sweet Potatoe.
Idiot's playing Dusty now, too.

I can't imagine why.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#452760 Mar 14, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Unfortunately, no pony yet.
*pout*
Y'know, I can get you some European beef.

Apparently some of it's horse.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#452761 Mar 14, 2013
wilderide wrote:
Hey, where is the Fake Christian Clown today? Don't tell me Jesus finally decided to straighten him out in person.
Perhaps he has become aware of a New Thing.

"When you wake up in the morning, Pooh," said Piglet at last, "what's the first thing you say to yourself?"
"What's for breakfast? said Pooh. "What do you say, Piglet?"
"I say, I wonder what's going to happen exciting today?" said Piglet.
Pooh nodded thoughtfully.
"It's the same thing," he said.

- Hoff, "The Tao of Pooh".

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#452762 Mar 14, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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I don't get some people's obsession with who might be a sock puppet. Who cares?
He'll be babbling about thread counts next, you watch.
Gut Stomper

United States

#452763 Mar 14, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
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Oh, I been around, "going to and fro in the land, and walking up and down on it" >grin<, just not so much lately. Life happens, and all that, yaknow. Thanx for the shout and backatcha. My beliefs? I believe (he said, striking a noble pose) as sayeth the prophet Steven of Martin, that sex is the most beautiful thing, that money can buy. Beyond that, ehh.....>shrug< I try to just roll with it.
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No, not at all. I'm addressing the antagonist in Gen 3, from your proposition. I think it's an assumption that the creature was the critter named satan, and an even bigger assumption that it is a real being, "causing" this or that changes in the Biblical texts down thru the ages. man can get enough mischief on his own without getting away with blaming it on chimeras and sprites.
<quoted text>Oh my!
Let me be sure I understand. It's your position that the KJV itself exists in some pristine divinely-inspired state, and that it was primarily subsequent to that, that the most numerous and egregious changes were made? >scratches head< hmmmm....
If I gotcha right, you might want to check into the first 400 years of Christian history, prior to the solidification of the proto-Catholic Church. THAT'S when it was hellzapoppin' in the realms of "sacred editorial license".
<quoted text>Roger that.
Scroll worthy!
Gut Stomper

United States

#452764 Mar 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>He'll be babbling about thread counts next, you watch.
Holding steady in third. Taking every sock you got just to keep pace, though.

“To Eff The Ineffable”

Since: Nov 12

Wailuku

#452765 Mar 14, 2013
Last night as I walked out of the store a woman asked me for money to help feed her family.
I gave her a few dollars and wished her good luck.
She thanked me and asked if I was a christian.
She was very surprised when I told her that I wasn't and said "but you're nice."
Does anyone else think this was odd?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#452766 Mar 14, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Unfortunately, no pony yet.
*pout*
To get you warmed up if the Xling is a girl.

You will have to know their names at tea parties!!

:o)

http://www.ponylandpress.com/us/unicorn2.shtm...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#452768 Mar 14, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
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Scroll worthy!
You are missing out on the good things in life.

Bummer for you.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#452769 Mar 14, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
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This is typical X. Weak logic. Weak reasoning. Weak, weak argument.
And this was one of his best?
Not even stomp worthy...
You're projecting, Christian.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#452770 Mar 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Y'know, I can get you some European beef.
Apparently some of it's horse.
Not exactly my request from the deity, but I'm sure having no success counting on the prayers of the chosen ones.

Fax me the price sheet.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#452772 Mar 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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To get you warmed up if the Xling is a girl.
You will have to know their names at tea parties!!
:o)
http://www.ponylandpress.com/us/unicorn2.shtm...
I'm there!

I'll be bringing my Star Wars action figures.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#452773 Mar 14, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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I'm there!
I'll be bringing my Star Wars action figures.
I'm with you.

You never know when you need "Halogram Obi-wan" to keep everyone in line.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#452774 Mar 14, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Not exactly my request from the deity, but I'm sure having no success counting on the prayers of the chosen ones.
Fax me the price sheet.
I'll get some back-home relatives to send me some.
Shipping to you from here is all I'll charge.

(I plan on eating about half of it myself.)

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#452775 Mar 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps he has become aware of a New Thing.

"When you wake up in the morning, Pooh," said Piglet at last, "what's the first thing you say to yourself?"

"What's for breakfast? said Pooh. "What do you say, Piglet?"

"I say, I wonder what's going to happen exciting today?" said Piglet.
Pooh nodded thoughtfully.

"It's the same thing," he said.
- Hoff, "The Tao of Pooh".
Just as likely the fear and angst engendered by a futile "faith" in something more....

ďUnfortunately complaining is one thing Eeyores are not afraid to do. They grudgingly carry their thimbles to the Fountain of Life, then mumble and grumble that they weren't given enough.Ē
&#8213; Hoff, "The Te Of Piglet"
babysan

United States

#452778 Mar 14, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
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Holding steady in third. Taking every sock you got just to keep pace, though.
Dork worthy!
Gut Stomper

United States

#452779 Mar 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You are missing out on the good things in life.
Bummer for you.
And yet, here we BOTH are, no?

I think you just committed hypocricide.

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#452780 Mar 14, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Sorry, but you're not addressing the topic, you're dancing around the subject.
Remember the topic is verses removed from the Bible. You were going to share what you learned, but you never actually shared anything.
Perhaps it might help to actually look at one of those passages, since that IS the topic.
A great introduction, IMO, is always 1 John 5:7-8, also known as the Johannine Comma. This is the >only< verse in the whole Bible that describes the Trinity.
In the KJV it reads like this:
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
See the Trinity? Father, Word and Holy Ghost, these three are one. That is the only place where you will find that in the entire Christian Bible.
Now modern editions will typically read similar to the English Standard Version:
"For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree."
Holy Cows, Batman! No Trinity!
So here is THE important question. In what early Greek manuscripts can this sole reference to the Trinity be found?
Answer: None. It is only found in later Latin manuscripts and later Greek manuscripts.
Now check this out from http://www.bible-researcher.com/comma.html
"The earliest instance of the passage being quoted as a part of the actual text of the Epistle is in a fourth century Latin treatise entitled Liber Apologeticus (chap. 4), attributed either to the Spanish heretic Priscillian (died about 385) or to his follower Bishop Instantius.... In the fifth century the gloss was quoted by Latin Fathers in North Africa and Italy as part of the text of the Epistle, and from the sixth century onwards it is found more and more frequently in manuscripts of the Old Latin and of the Vulgate."
Voila!
The reason that it is not in modern translations is because it's not in the early manuscripts. It was a later addition to the texts. The translators are trying to be faithful to the original authors' intent, to the best of their abiility.
The reality is this:
The corrupt translation is the KJV, one of the worst mainstream versions on the market today, which got this corrupted information from .... the Catholic Church.
Now ain't that a hoot?
Hi, back for just a minute... saw you reply... I'm not dancing around the issue, I'm making a point... slowly.
This all fits with verses, and pages being missing.'Don't be in such a hurry for a quick answer'.... be back in three hours... I told you I was a busy girl...

ps..Btw Your wrong about the Trinity.( don't worry, I will back it up).. I will be back with my facts, rest assured... Funny when you get riled up...Lol

pss. Your a doll, but if the heat gets to hot in the kitchen, go in another room... JK Lol xo

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