Why I’m no longer a Christian

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#452019 Mar 12, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I believe all of the teaching of a great man like PAUL
Paul was gay.

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#452020 Mar 12, 2013
Textbook example of psychological projection.
Gut Stomper wrote:
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Could your desperate, pathetic attempt at control be evidence of the internal crippling fear deep inside you?
Thanks

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#452021 Mar 12, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
Thought this was an interesting read...
http://www.markvernon.com/friendshiponline/do...
In a magazine called Look, published in 1953, the philosopher Bertrand Russell clarified what being an atheistically-inclined agnostic meant for him, via a series of questions. There is, perhaps, some benefit in juxtaposing excerpts from some of the actual answers he gave with ones Socrates might have given, had he been asked too. He was an agnostic too, though of a different kind – being more religiously-inclined. A virtual conversation defines, as it were, two poles on the continuum of agnostic belief.
Continued in next post...
Hello, Annie! How ya' been?

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#452022 Mar 12, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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Jabberwocky is fantastic!!!
*doink*

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#452023 Mar 12, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I believe all of the teaching of a great man like PAUL
You will just love this guy then:

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

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#452024 Mar 12, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Paul was gay.
Nope. He was very sad person.

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#452025 Mar 12, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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Jabberwocky is fantastic!!!
As entertainment, yes. As a guide to life, not so much.

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#452026 Mar 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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when the Christians go up, the wrath of God comes down ...
Exactly what I meant by bloody. Angry Christians trying to slaughter the world as they destroy themselves from the inside.

It's gonna be great fun.

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#452027 Mar 12, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
wilderide wrote: <quoted text> Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control."
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I think that is important to include the previous verses with this thought. Paul is creating the dichotomy of who is in (above) and who is out (see below). He is not talking about non-believers, he is talking about those claiming to be part of the group. The second group is represented by most of the Christians who visit here. The evidence is in their own words. Interestingly enough, it also included Paul, himself, although he would disagree.
Gal. 5: 19-21
"Now the actions of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, promiscuity, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, rivalry, jealously, outbursts of anger, quarrels, conflicts, factions, envy, murder, drunkenness, wild partying, and things like that. I am telling you now, as I have told you in the past, that people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."
"people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"
"people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

You're right and heaven will be one lonely, empty place, almost completely devoid of Christians... Thinking of it in those terms, it might not be such a bad place after all!! LOL

I wonder if they'll let me play guitar instead of harp?

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#452028 Mar 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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do we really hafta have HIM too, hon?;)
Creepy Stalker Christian

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#452029 Mar 12, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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your 'faith' in anti-bible/antichrist propoganda is astounding!
too bad that you're not a little less gullible there and a bit more objective to authorized documentation:(
Jesus reveals the motives behind why a person isn't:
"For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed"
Authorized? How much do you know about the Councils of Nicea? Indeed, how much do you know about the history of the Bible at all?

Your faith in Bible propaganda is astounding.

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#452030 Mar 12, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>you're as nutty as a squirrel turd.. FACT
You need some original material. FACT.

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#452031 Mar 12, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I like it when you quote Paul...
Too bad you don't believe it yourself.

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#452032 Mar 12, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>you hate Jesus
You hate what Jesus said.

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#452033 Mar 12, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I believe all of the teaching of a great man like PAUL
And yet you ignore all that teaching.

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#452034 Mar 12, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Paul was gay.
Paul did say in 1 Corinthians 9:22-23:
"I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.”

So when he was around gay men....

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#452035 Mar 12, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
How to be an agnostic - Russell & Socrates debate
An extract from How To Be An Agnostic.
What is an agnostic?
Russell: An agnostic is a man who thinks that it is impossible to know the truth in the matters such as God and a future life with which the Christian religion and other religions are concerned. Or, if not for ever impossible, at any rate impossible at present.
Socrates: I too have never found anything but uncertainty in divine matters, but that is a bad reason for unbelief. The same could be said about most matters we enquire into. My agnostic is someone who is religiously minded, but who, unlike the believer who speaks of his gods with confidence, lives so as to explore the mystery and uncertainty of these things.
Are agnostics atheists?
Russell: No. An agnostic suspends judgement … At the same time, an agnostic may hold that the existence of God, though not impossible, is very improbable; he may even hold it so improbable that it is not worth considering in practice.
Socrates: No – but not because it is not worth considering in practice. I do find many of the things people say about gods unlikely, but examining someone’s god-talk, for or against, often exposes the assumptions they make not about God, but about who we humans are.
Since you deny ‘God’s law’, what authority do you accept as a guide to conduct?
Russell: An agnostic does not accept any ‘authority’ in the sense in which religious people do. He holds that a man should think out questions of conduct for himself.
Socrates: We should certainly try to think out questions of conduct for ourselves, or perhaps a better way of putting it is to say we should cultivate those virtues within us that allow us to flourish. And that does not exclude respecting a higher authority, the resources wise people have developed, the ways they’ve tried to live. Sometimes we must defer to authority, for we cannot decide everything afresh for ourselves.
Does an agnostic deny that man has a soul?
Russell: The question has no precise meaning unless we are given a definition of the word ‘soul’. I suppose what is meant is, roughly, something non-material which persists throughout a person’s life and even, for those who believe in immortality, throughout all future time. An agnostic is not likely to believe that a man has a soul.
Socrates: I do not understand this objection to the idea of a soul – though it is no doubt hard to pin down. My pupil Plato, and his pupil Aristotle, used to argue endlessly about it. But that only goes to show it’s worth talking about, for must we not take care of ourselves as souls – as persons with imaginations, purposes, desires? A beautiful soul is like an excellent wine: it’s hard to say why, but you know it when you taste it.
What is the meaning of life to the agnostic?
Russell: I feel inclined to answer by another question: what is the meaning of ‘the meaning of life’? I suppose what is intended is some general purpose. I do not think that life in general has any purpose. It just happened. But individual human beings have purposes, and there is nothing in agnosticism to cause them to abandon these purposes.
Socrates: When death hangs over your head, the meaning of life is not academic, believe me! What is important is not life itself but a life lived well. But even that takes us only so far. For myself, I have the blessing of a keen sensibility that strives to understand how we are ignorant. When we get that right, it paradoxically seems that we get lots of other things more right too.
Is faith in reason alone a dangerous creed?
Russell: No sensible man, however agnostic, has ‘faith in reason alone’.
Socrates: We can agree on that.
Good stuff.

On a lighter note: Have you ever visited the website Dead Philosophers in Heaven? It's always a hoot.

http://www.dead-philosophers.com/

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#452036 Mar 12, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Paul was gay.
if he were all y'all would love him so since you don't, it proves he wasn't. now wilderide, that thar's your gay boy;)

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#452037 Mar 12, 2013
Anti-Christ wrote:
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Hello, Annie! How ya' been?
Hey AC! Glad to see you back posting again.

I enjoyed reading your post the other day about your "back to school". I am thinking about doing the same. The program that I want to do however does not begin until this fall...but will soon need to make a decision.

“let's do this thang!”

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#452038 Mar 12, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Exactly what I meant by bloody. Angry Christians trying to slaughter the world as they destroy themselves from the inside.
It's gonna be great fun.
umm....i siad the "wrath of God". He told us as His children to step back from executing justice and to give place for His;)

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