Why I’m no longer a Christian

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#452005 Mar 12, 2013
high beam wrote:
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Oh yes, christianity will eventually fall. Along with the other monotheistic ones.
That's the only way for progress to excel.
See ya, clownie...lol
And it's gonna be fun.

Bloody, but fun.

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#452006 Mar 12, 2013
high beam wrote:
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Oh yes, christianity will eventually fall. Along with the other monotheistic ones.
That's the only way for progress to excel.
See ya, clownie...lol
LOL - that's what y'all been saying and trying to accomplish for over 2,000 years now!

when the Christians go up, the wrath of God comes down so i wouldn't be in any hurry to get rid of us if i were all y'all;)

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#452007 Mar 12, 2013
high beam wrote:
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You bet.
:)
I like you.
Can I have you and wasssuuuup over for dinner sometime?
do we really hafta have HIM too, hon?;)

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#452008 Mar 12, 2013
Thought this was an interesting read...

http://www.markvernon.com/friendshiponline/do...

In a magazine called Look, published in 1953, the philosopher Bertrand Russell clarified what being an atheistically-inclined agnostic meant for him, via a series of questions. There is, perhaps, some benefit in juxtaposing excerpts from some of the actual answers he gave with ones Socrates might have given, had he been asked too. He was an agnostic too, though of a different kind – being more religiously-inclined. A virtual conversation defines, as it were, two poles on the continuum of agnostic belief.

Continued in next post...

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#452009 Mar 12, 2013
How to be an agnostic - Russell & Socrates debate

An extract from How To Be An Agnostic.

What is an agnostic?

Russell: An agnostic is a man who thinks that it is impossible to know the truth in the matters such as God and a future life with which the Christian religion and other religions are concerned. Or, if not for ever impossible, at any rate impossible at present.

Socrates: I too have never found anything but uncertainty in divine matters, but that is a bad reason for unbelief. The same could be said about most matters we enquire into. My agnostic is someone who is religiously minded, but who, unlike the believer who speaks of his gods with confidence, lives so as to explore the mystery and uncertainty of these things.

Are agnostics atheists?

Russell: No. An agnostic suspends judgement … At the same time, an agnostic may hold that the existence of God, though not impossible, is very improbable; he may even hold it so improbable that it is not worth considering in practice.

Socrates: No – but not because it is not worth considering in practice. I do find many of the things people say about gods unlikely, but examining someone’s god-talk, for or against, often exposes the assumptions they make not about God, but about who we humans are.

Since you deny ‘God’s law’, what authority do you accept as a guide to conduct?

Russell: An agnostic does not accept any ‘authority’ in the sense in which religious people do. He holds that a man should think out questions of conduct for himself.

Socrates: We should certainly try to think out questions of conduct for ourselves, or perhaps a better way of putting it is to say we should cultivate those virtues within us that allow us to flourish. And that does not exclude respecting a higher authority, the resources wise people have developed, the ways they’ve tried to live. Sometimes we must defer to authority, for we cannot decide everything afresh for ourselves.

Does an agnostic deny that man has a soul?

Russell: The question has no precise meaning unless we are given a definition of the word ‘soul’. I suppose what is meant is, roughly, something non-material which persists throughout a person’s life and even, for those who believe in immortality, throughout all future time. An agnostic is not likely to believe that a man has a soul.

Socrates: I do not understand this objection to the idea of a soul – though it is no doubt hard to pin down. My pupil Plato, and his pupil Aristotle, used to argue endlessly about it. But that only goes to show it’s worth talking about, for must we not take care of ourselves as souls – as persons with imaginations, purposes, desires? A beautiful soul is like an excellent wine: it’s hard to say why, but you know it when you taste it.

What is the meaning of life to the agnostic?

Russell: I feel inclined to answer by another question: what is the meaning of ‘the meaning of life’? I suppose what is intended is some general purpose. I do not think that life in general has any purpose. It just happened. But individual human beings have purposes, and there is nothing in agnosticism to cause them to abandon these purposes.

Socrates: When death hangs over your head, the meaning of life is not academic, believe me! What is important is not life itself but a life lived well. But even that takes us only so far. For myself, I have the blessing of a keen sensibility that strives to understand how we are ignorant. When we get that right, it paradoxically seems that we get lots of other things more right too.

Is faith in reason alone a dangerous creed?

Russell: No sensible man, however agnostic, has ‘faith in reason alone’.

Socrates: We can agree on that.

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#452010 Mar 12, 2013
Anti-Christ wrote:
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The NIV, ASB, NASB, Amplified, Common English, Darby, English Standard, Expanded, Holman Christian, Revised Standard, and Young's all say Passover, not Easter. The corrupt King James Version says Easter, but in context, the story you are referring to is about Peter, who was a Jew, and honey, Jews never celebrated Easter. They celebrated Passover according to the Torah.
This just shows how corrupt Christianity is, and how poorly read you are.
you're as nutty as a squirrel turd.. FACT

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#452011 Mar 12, 2013
high beam wrote:
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You bet.
:)
I like you.
Can I have you and wasssuuuup over for dinner sometime?
*blush* thanks

I would like to clarify the request, first, if you don't mind.

Are you a cannibal?

It's the internet, these kinds of questions are important.

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#452012 Mar 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control."
John 15:12 "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you"
I like it when you quote Paul...

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#452013 Mar 12, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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LOL *snort*
Did someone tell you that someone claiming to be from the tribe of Benjamin and a Pharisee was a member of some type of affluent Jewish leadership?
You so funny, and ignorant.
you couldn't think rationally to save your soul (literally) when it comes to a biblical conversation!

what do you suppose was a more affluent position for paul in his day; to identify with the learned jews or with the newly-forming, despised and persecuted gentile church???

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#452014 Mar 12, 2013
high beam wrote:
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Somethin sure ain't kosher here.
:)
Ya, Paul.

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#452015 Mar 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Yeah, it's pointing at Jesus.
you hate Jesus

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#452016 Mar 12, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Ya, Paul.
I believe all of the teaching of a great man like PAUL

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#452017 Mar 12, 2013
wilderide wrote: <quoted text> Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control."
Anti-Christ wrote:
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All the Christian love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control here is just intoxicating, don't ya' think?
I think that is important to include the previous verses with this thought. Paul is creating the dichotomy of who is in (above) and who is out (see below). He is not talking about non-believers, he is talking about those claiming to be part of the group. The second group is represented by most of the Christians who visit here. The evidence is in their own words. Interestingly enough, it also included Paul, himself, although he would disagree.

Gal. 5: 19-21
"Now the actions of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, promiscuity, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, rivalry, jealously, outbursts of anger, quarrels, conflicts, factions, envy, murder, drunkenness, wild partying, and things like that. I am telling you now, as I have told you in the past, that people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

"people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God"

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#452018 Mar 12, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Ha, you ain't seen nuthin' yet.
LOL!!! He needs your "ignorance" to become enlightened.

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#452019 Mar 12, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I believe all of the teaching of a great man like PAUL
Paul was gay.

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#452020 Mar 12, 2013
Textbook example of psychological projection.
Gut Stomper wrote:
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Could your desperate, pathetic attempt at control be evidence of the internal crippling fear deep inside you?
Thanks

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#452021 Mar 12, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
Thought this was an interesting read...
http://www.markvernon.com/friendshiponline/do...
In a magazine called Look, published in 1953, the philosopher Bertrand Russell clarified what being an atheistically-inclined agnostic meant for him, via a series of questions. There is, perhaps, some benefit in juxtaposing excerpts from some of the actual answers he gave with ones Socrates might have given, had he been asked too. He was an agnostic too, though of a different kind – being more religiously-inclined. A virtual conversation defines, as it were, two poles on the continuum of agnostic belief.
Continued in next post...
Hello, Annie! How ya' been?

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#452022 Mar 12, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
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Jabberwocky is fantastic!!!
*doink*

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#452023 Mar 12, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I believe all of the teaching of a great man like PAUL
You will just love this guy then:

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

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#452024 Mar 12, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Paul was gay.
Nope. He was very sad person.

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