'Baptism' and 'born again' were and are Jewish rituals and beliefs.<quoted text>We give the reader of this thread the courtesy of assuming they own a Bible, and even have read some of it. Sadly, we are often proved wrong, most esp. with alleged "believers".
"Born-again" was never intended to be dogma....
They are both still part of the process of converting to Judaism as well as renewing one's commitment to Judaism.
Christian baptism is a mockery of the religion of Jesus.
I blame Paul.