Why I’m no longer a Christian
socci

Everton, MO

#450866 Mar 9, 2013
unscarred1 wrote:
While most people in this area would never acknowledge this fact, here is a bit of history for you. Before I begin, I suggest that you get on NETFLIX and Watch the documentaries on there about religion:(1.Zeitgeist the Movie. 2. Religulous w/ Bill Maher, etc.)

Bill Maher is a documentary? really?

Have you checked the sources for the film Zeitgeist? They censor facts that would discredit everything they say, claiming Jesus was born in Dec 25, and claiming there were copycat dieties BC w/virgin birth. These gnostic claims have no support among the schollars of Egyptology or related fields who have studied the relevant myths. The sources such as Acharia S have no original sources BC.

• Zeitgeist refuted

www.kingdavid8.com/_full_article.php...

http://archive.org/details/ZeitgeistSpiritOfT...

unscarred1 wrote:
The fact I was referring to is that the Bible that we know today was written by men, just like any other who were supposedly under divine-inspiration.

Who would you expect to write it? Yet what was written no man could know.

"Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, you may believe that I am he." (John 13:19)

socci

Everton, MO

#450867 Mar 9, 2013
unscarred1 wrote:
If an all perfect being guided these men who wrote the Bible, why is it that there are two very different Gods in the Old and New Testaments


There are not two gods. Jesus is the Creator.

1 Tim 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

unscarred1 wrote:
and why all the multiple contradictions.(i.e. OT: an eye for an eye NT: turn the other cheek, etc.)

There are no contradictions, only poor understanding. Eye for an eye with context.

101 Cleared Up Bible Contradictions
http://web.comhem.se/~u18208324/min/contrad.h...
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/bible.htm
socci

Everton, MO

#450868 Mar 9, 2013
unscarred1 wrote:
Another fact that most people aren't aware of or refuse to acknowledge is that the modern King James Version of the Bible and the Catholic Bible are both incomplete, with many of the books missing (see Nag Hammadi Texts, Dead Sea Scrolls).

There are many books on the planet. Not all were Jewish or Christian. There were/are other religions such as Gnosticism that use Biblical texts. The KJV specifically as we have it today has all the books considered inspired at the time of the first Christians, the Nazarenes.


unscarred1 wrote:
I first began to question the legitimacy of all religions when I started reading into the history of these matters. After over 8 years of research, I have concluded that mono-theistic (one God) religions that dominate the world today are designed to make the largest part of the population compliant with and accepting of a single leader (i.e an emperor, king, or president) and their government philosophies.

Govt control contradicts the Bible that says to "have no other gods". The Christian can live under any form of govt that allows freedom of conscience. For instance, the printing of the Bible directly caused the downfall of the holy roman empire when the Protestant Reformation began.

socci

Everton, MO

#450869 Mar 9, 2013
unscarred1 wrote:
Another strange thing that I've found is that most christians believe that the USA was founded as a Christian nation by Christians. Unfortunately, history says otherwise. Many of the founders (Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and many others) were not Christians privately.

The British Colonies were founded by Protestant Puritan Christians. That is who populated the thirteen states. While the founders of the federal govt were not Christian they have also been nothing but problems from the beginning when they broke all the Indian treaties, owning slaves, then causing the Civil War killing 800,000 Americans in 1865. They still cause one war after the next today and fail to control unchecked immigration in an effort to cleanse the Americans from the land we founded!

socci

Everton, MO

#450870 Mar 9, 2013
unscarred1 wrote:
Another issue most people who claim one of the Big 3 (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) is the horrific acts of intolerance and violence against members of other religions, especially each other. Again, all that is needed is a knowledge of history to understand what I'm talking about. In fact, the rise of Christianity led to one of the most ignorant periods of intellectual decline in recorded history: The Dark Ages / Inquisition.

There were FOUR religions.

1. Judaism.
2. Christianity - came from Judaism.
3. Pagan Rome - became Catholic.
4. Islam - since the 7th century

It has been ROME & ISLAM who are the violent religions.

The atheistic world revolution has ran all the wars since 1775 killing millions -- this replaced the holy roman empire.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#450871 Mar 9, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
There are not two gods. Jesus is the Creator.
1 Tim 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
<quoted text>
There are no contradictions, only poor understanding. Eye for an eye with context.
101 Cleared Up Bible Contradictions
http://web.comhem.se/~u18208324/min/contrad.h...
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/bible.htm
Hush, tard.
socci

Everton, MO

#450872 Mar 9, 2013
unscarred1 wrote:
Faith- asking someone to blindly believe whole-heartedly in divine entities without any type of proof other than a 'feeling'.

There is plenty of evidence for Christianity. Jesus is an historic fact recorded by all the historians of the day. Israel, Jerusalem, Egypt, Babylon, the list of evidence is long, even as the marxist atheistic world revolution would censor this information.

unscarred1 wrote:
I knew from early in my childhood that religion was not for me.

Everyone has some religion. Either they are Christian, Catholic, Muslim or pagan atheist.

• Pagan roots of Evolution

with professor Paul James-Griffiths

http://edinburghcreationgroup.org/video/31
This is a sourced power-point lecture.

http://creation.com/evolution-ancient-pagan-i...

http://www.resurrectisis.org/PaganEvolution.h...

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#450873 Mar 9, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
There is plenty of evidence for Christianity. Jesus is an historic fact recorded by all the historians of the day. Israel, Jerusalem, Egypt, Babylon, the list of evidence is long, even as the marxist atheistic world revolution would censor this information.
<quoted text>
Everyone has some religion. Either they are Christian, Catholic, Muslim or pagan atheist.
• Pagan roots of Evolution
with professor Paul James-Griffiths
http://edinburghcreationgroup.org/video/31
This is a sourced power-point lecture.
http://creation.com/evolution-ancient-pagan-i...
http://www.resurrectisis.org/PaganEvolution.h...
lightbeamrider?...Just_Results ?

izzat chu?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#450874 Mar 9, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
There is plenty of evidence for Christianity. Jesus is an historic fact recorded by all the historians of the day. Israel, Jerusalem, Egypt, Babylon, the list of evidence is long, even as the marxist atheistic world revolution would censor this information.
<quoted text>
Everyone has some religion. Either they are Christian, Catholic, Muslim or pagan atheist.
• Pagan roots of Evolution
with professor Paul James-Griffiths
http://edinburghcreationgroup.org/video/31
This is a sourced power-point lecture.
http://creation.com/evolution-ancient-pagan-i...
http://www.resurrectisis.org/PaganEvolution.h...
Really? Then where are these records? I have done a lot of Ancient Egypt studies and nowhere does it mention some magician, especially none named Jesus.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#450876 Mar 9, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think you know what the word "standard" means.
He uses that line on convicts. Probably works quite well. Believe in the jesus charactor and you'll be saved...no matter what you did or what you do from now on.
Problem is he thinks intelligent non-convicts will buy into it also and he thinks it clears him of his questionable behavior.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#450877 Mar 9, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>I skip his posts now. They closed the vomitorium.
I rather enjoy drawing him out. His responses reveal the worst of christianity and are good reminders of what a failing religion is.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#450878 Mar 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
To identify with you would require me to betray my deepist convictions, would be a lie, and force me to betray all Logic.
As far as "trying to force my standards of morality" on you, I have no interest in doing so, never have, never will, and never implied I was trying to do so. You, on the other hand, constantly try to impose your sick morality on others. Ironic huh??
You beg for tolerance? The only way I'd tolerate you would be if you would be man enough to admit you have broken several human moral laws that happen to overflow into your 10 commandments...and then stop doing so. Kait has pointed them out to you several times.
No deal bucky...
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
i see, so i have to be perfect according to your standards in order to be accepted/forgiven by you.
and you humanist claim that it's the Christians who are demanding, exclusive and unforgiving???
Where did I say you have to be perfect?? I made it very clear that I have not, nor will I, impose any standard of Morality upon you.
You, yourself, all by yourself, have imposed the morality of being a christian upon yourself. Don't blame me for your incapability to maintain the requirements set forth by your religion.
Hmmm, now I'm a "humanist"...recentl y you've called me the antichrist. What's next??

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#450879 Mar 9, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>Wow..
Whata peach..

lol..
You are a ray of sunsine.
(kidding)
Sure you are :-)

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#450880 Mar 9, 2013
socci wrote:
Bill Maher is a documentary? really?

Have you checked the sources for the film Zeitgeist? They censor facts that would discredit everything they say, claiming Jesus was born in Dec 25, and claiming there were copycat dieties BC w/virgin birth. These gnostic claims have no support among the schollars of Egyptology or related fields who have studied the relevant myths. The sources such as Acharia S have no original sources BC.

• Zeitgeist refuted

www.kingdavid8.com/_full_article.php...

http://archive.org/details/ZeitgeistSpiritOfT...



unscarred1 wrote, "The fact I was referring to is that the Bible that we know today was written by men, just like any other who were supposedly under divine-inspiration."


Who would you expect to write it? Yet what was written no man could know.

"Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, you may believe that I am he." (John 13:19)
C'mon... Jesus was not born in December...

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#450881 Mar 9, 2013
socci wrote:
There are not two gods. Jesus is the Creator.

1 Tim 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."



unscarred1 wrote, "and why all the multiple contradictions.(i.e. OT: an eye for an eye NT: turn the other cheek, etc.)"


There are no contradictions, only poor understanding. Eye for an eye with context.

101 Cleared Up Bible Contradictions
http://web.comhem.se/~u18208324/min/contrad.h...
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/bible.htm
Lol... Lol...

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#450882 Mar 9, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>Hush, tard.
Lol... I concur ;)

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#450883 Mar 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>He uses that line on convicts. Probably works quite well. Believe in the jesus charactor and you'll be saved...no matter what you did or what you do from now on.
Problem is he thinks intelligent non-convicts will buy into it also and he thinks it clears him of his questionable behavior.
Um... Everyone in topix is bat$$hit crazy and has questionable behaviour... ;)

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#450884 Mar 9, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
To identify with you would require me to betray my deepist convictions, would be a lie, and force me to betray all Logic.
As far as "trying to force my standards of morality" on you, I have no interest in doing so, never have, never will, and never implied I was trying to do so. You, on the other hand, constantly try to impose your sick morality on others. Ironic huh??
You beg for tolerance? The only way I'd tolerate you would be if you would be man enough to admit you have broken several human moral laws that happen to overflow into your 10 commandments...and then stop doing so. Kait has pointed them out to you several times.
No deal bucky...

Where did I say you have to be perfect?? I made it very clear that I have not, nor will I, impose any standard of Morality upon you.
You, yourself, all by yourself, have imposed the morality of being a christian upon yourself. Don't blame me for your incapability to maintain the requirements set forth by your religion.
Hmmm, now I'm a "humanist"...recentl y you've called me the antichrist. What's next??
LMAO

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#450885 Mar 9, 2013
Illuminatrix wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol... I concur ;)
;-)

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#450886 Mar 9, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
<quoted text>
Right on, brother. I can dig it.
*peace sign*
Just had a *flashback* to an experience I never had.

It was cool.

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