We give the reader of this thread the courtesy of assuming they own a Bible, and even have read some of it. Sadly, we are often proved wrong, most esp. with alleged "believers".HIP why dont you finish the verse. You are only giving part of the verse. BoRN again is being born of the spirit, and that is discribed there. Why do use only parts of his word and not all of the verse? Is it to because you lie? You use only parts of his word to decieve ppl of the truth of his word..if you are going to quote him Please name book/chapter/verse so they see all of his word. Not just parts you want them to see for your own interests.
"Born-again" was never intended to be dogma. It was related as a private conversation between Jesus and an acolyte. It was never repeated in public. That itself demonstrates that it was intended as a lesson to the individual in regeneration of action and thought, NOT as a divine command for inclusion into salvation. In another instance, Jesus relates the parable of new vs old wineskins. It is a parallel teaching relating the same concept, that of shedding the old person and resolving to renew oneself, in body and spirit. Yet, we never hear anyone say one MUST become a new wineskin in order to receive salvation, do we?
The current "Born-again" movement arose out of reaction to the hedonistic 60's. It was popularized and broadened by convicted felon Chuck Colson of the Nixon cabal after his conversion in prison. It served a purpose for those revolted by their own previous behavior.
Since then it has achieved the level of doctrine amongst the self-loathing self-righteous as just another method of elevating themselves above the "unsaved heathen", inc. other professed Christians. So it is with all human endeavors - take something positive and turn it into a weapon.