Why I知 no longer a Christian

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Liam R wrote:
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Jesus was most likely a Pharisee, a student of the Hillel school.
Ever place that Jesus condemns the teachings of the "Pharisees", what is condemned matches the teachings of the Shumai school, rivals of the Hillel school.
Do you have a link to support this - or just a hypothesis?

IMO - Hillel (also of the "house of David" lineage) seems to have been more prominent in the community, but really wasn't, if one looks at the whole picture. To believe Jesus came from this school is plausible, but really is an unknown suppostion.

One could also surmise he was of the Essenes and their teachings.

One could surmise many things.

Barring the difference in the actual numbers of...312 & 316 - I'd have to see additional info that you suggest ("most likely").

Hillel and Shammai [Shamai]

http://www.jewishhistory.org/hillel-and-shamm...

Hillel and Shamai had a minimum amount of legal disagreements between themselves; only three, in fact. However, each founded his own renowned academy of Torah learning and there arose numerous and contentious disagreements (312 to be precise) among the disciples. Eventually, it went beyond the mere number of disputes and became almost two diametrically opposed viewpoints.

There is a danger to oversimplify this, but generally the Academy of Shamai is thought to be stringent where the Academy of Hillel tends to be lenient. Generally, the Academy of Shamai looks at the potential whereas the Academy of Hillel looks at the actual. There are many theories advanced in the Jewish authorities throughout the centuries attempting to explain the central core of their disputes.

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http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/31...
Discussions Between the Schools.

The prevailing characteristics of the disputes are the restrictive tendency of the Shammaites and the moderation of the Hillelites. Three hundred and sixteen controversies between these two schools are preserved in the pages of the Talmud, affecting 221 Halakot, 29 halakic interpretations, and 66 guard-laws ("gezerot"); and out of the whole number only 55 (or about one-sixth) present the Shammaites on the side of leniency.

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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then it must be antichrist(ian) propoganda...:(
If you're "christian," then I'm *proud* to be anti-christian.
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Feb 21, 2013
 
Beaks wrote:
Because God is cold and cruel!!!
Did you ever attend a church service with some other witches and throughout the preaching service, you all sat there and shook your heads "no"?
I was just wondering, because this pastor who had been in Warren, Ky. told us that some witches had come and spent the entire hour shaking their heads while he preached.

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Rosa Winkel wrote:
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We all have our own reality. Just that his sounds pretty twisted.
No. We do *not* all have "our own" reality, we all share the same one. And we need to deal with it, and make the best of it.

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duststorm wrote:
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If I were rightfully convicted of shoplifting, and the judge offered to torture and kill his own son as payment for my crime, that would not be justice. That would be mercy.
Justice is when someone burns for all eternity. That is what we deserve; however, Christ loved us all and gave himself for all of us.
The difference between us is that some repent and believe...others never do.
Looks like some of us get off on feeling like a worm huh?

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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LOL! give it up sheldon/penny combo dude - you're not gonna get any converts to your one-person cult;)
Neither are you.

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duststorm wrote:
<quoted text>BBJ, honestly, you need to surrender to the Savior before you can no longer reason. If you get worse, you may not be able to be saved.
So a person without the mental capacity to understand or believe such things won't get saved right?
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duststorm wrote:
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You sure have a powerful ability to disengage your true reaction to the wrath of God. They must have done a number on you as a child, with such compartmentalizing going on in your psyche.
Meditate on those words: God is angry with the wicked every day. That is you.
I am evil also, but Jesus has saved me, so I won't have to go to hell like you.
You're pretending.

Well,'ceptin' for the part about you being evil.

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Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Waaasssuuup substitutes actual reality with his own "reality." It reminds me of something I once saw in a new age shop about creating one's own reality.
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So - you think the New Age mentality is "creating one's own reality"?
Isn't this what we all do every moment of our lives?
Not me; I cope with the one we all got dealt, and try to make the best of it.
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If not, do you account these changes to "God's" push and pull upon us humans - thus nullifying free will?
Which God? I don't even really know if there is one.
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New Age is a chosen belief, just like any belief or non-belief - it is chosen on our own. "Self" is more of an accurate description relating to this.
When we chose - we enact our "Self".(consciousnes s/being/mind/Spirit/ or the many other terms that can be used instead)
When we apply our Self, we make our own reality
No you don't. It doesn't make any difference to the guy who's gonna mug you or the politician who's gonna tax you or the shark in the ocean that's gonna eat you or the pit bull on-the-loose that's gonna bite you or the boss who's gonna lay you off.

Like this planet that we all live on and share, we also all share the same reality--and, like I said, we gotta make the best of it.
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duststorm wrote:
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Did you ever attend a church service with some other witches and throughout the preaching service, you all sat there and shook your heads "no"?
I was just wondering, because this pastor who had been in Warren, Ky. told us that some witches had come and spent the entire hour shaking their heads while he preached.
Correction: Murray, KY

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Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Compared to all other religions, christianity is "new age."
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Hmmmm....I'd have to disagree.
Let me rephrase that: it's the *newest* of the age. It's only been around a couple of millennia.
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So a person without the mental capacity to understand or believe such things won't get saved right?
A person born without the mental capacity to understand will go to be with Jesus when he dies.
A person who has had many opportunities, and then loses his marbles or falls into a coma before repenting and asking Jesus to save him will be consigned to hellfire for all eternity.

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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"to know one's self is the ultimate knowledge and to fu#@ one's self is the ultimate love" anonymous new ager
More self-made bullshit from the Evil Christian.

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T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>new age is a lie
Christianity is a lie.

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duststorm wrote:
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You sure have a powerful ability to disengage your true reaction to the wrath of God. They must have done a number on you as a child, with such compartmentalizing going on in your psyche.
Meditate on those words: God is angry with the wicked every day. That is you.
I am evil also, but Jesus has saved me, so I won't have to go to hell like you.
Your "god" has no balls.
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Looks like some of us get off on feeling like a worm huh?
Alas! and did my Savior bleed
And did my Sovereign die?
Would He devote that sacred head
For such a worm as I?

At the cross, at the cross where I first saw the light,
And the burden of my heart rolled away,
It was there by faith I received my sight,
And now I am happy all the day!

Was it for crimes that I had done
He groaned upon the tree?
Amazing pity! grace unknown!
And love beyond degree!

But drops of grief can ne弾r repay
The debt of love I owe:
Here, Lord, I give my self away
探is all that I can do.

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You shall have no mercy if you have never repented and surrendered to the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior.
You need mercy. At least you recognize that.
You see mercy as a good thing. At least you recognize that.
Without his mercy, there shall no flesh survive the 7 years of tribulation.
God in his mercy sent his only begotten Son to die in my place and in your place.
I admitted I was a sinner and believed upon him when I was 9. He saved me then and I am still saved. And you?
Your "god" is dickless and impotent, and so are you. That's what fills you with rage; you can't convert anyone to your cult.

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Liam R wrote:
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There is NO crime that could justify eternal torture - that is NOT justice, that is sick fantasy invented by xians.
That's what *I* keep telling those boneheads, but it's no more effective than pissing into the wind.

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Gut Stomper wrote:
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Can anyone make any sense of this clusterfcuk mash-up?
*You're* the only one who's having trouble with it, dipshit. Everyone else understands it just fine.

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Who's on first? What's on second. I don't know. Third base.
Here's a novel idea for you; try reading the post *BEFORE* hitting "reply."

The entire inside of your head is a clusterfuck of bats.

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