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#446676 Feb 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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so prove that you're not affected by the constant brainwashing of hollywood and try turning pro-Christ rather than anti!;)
As msoon as you prove you are not a gay pedophile.

“YO BOO”

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#446677 Feb 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Wrong on all accounts.
You really should read that magic book of yours some day.
2 Peter 3:15-16

Bear in mind that our Lordís patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Peter loved Paul just as Jesus did

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

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#446678 Feb 22, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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But Peter most likely did not write this book.
There has been much debate over the authorship of 2 Peter. Most conservative evangelicals hold to the traditional view that Peter was the author, but historical and literary critics have almost unanimously concluded that to be impossible. For example: Ksemann states that 2 Peter is ďperhaps the most dubious writingĒ in the New Testament.1 Harris says,ďvirtually none believe that 2 Peter was written by Jesusí chief disciple.Ē2 And Brevard S. Childs, an excellent rhetorical critic, shows his assumption when he says,ďeven among scholars who recognize the non-Petrine authorship there remains the sharpest possible disagreement on a theological assessment.Ē3
http://bible.org/article/authorship-second-pe...
You are using circular reasoning. We can't use the Bible to prove anything in the Bible actually comes from God can we. What other tangible evidence do you have that Paul's letters are anything other than the Word of Paul?
I believe the NT... to be the holy word of God...

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#446679 Feb 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Because he is either a moron or a liar.
I would rather just say misinformed.:)

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#446680 Feb 22, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
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2 Peter 3:15-16
Bear in mind that our Lordís patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Peter loved Paul just as Jesus did
This is an example of circular reasoning. Is the Book of Peter or the Letters of Paul proof that either is the word of God? What tangible proof do you have of such a claim?

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

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#446681 Feb 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Why do you lie ?
Please post Paul's own words.
If you reject what Paul wrote then you are ashamed of the gospel that Jesus Christ the Messiah gave us G... you don't believe anything Paul Peter or John wrote..

In other words you are a lost soul

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#446682 Feb 22, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I believe the NT... to be the holy word of God...
Belief is not proof. Suppose I were to say I believe you are a Genius? Is may belief enough to prove such a claim to be true?

“Love much, trust none”

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#446683 Feb 22, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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I would rather just say misinformed.:)
I thought so too at first. However after a year....

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#446685 Feb 22, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I believe the NT... to be the holy word of God...
You can believe Aesop's Fables are the word of God for all I care.

“Love much, trust none”

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#446686 Feb 22, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
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Galatians 1:1 ďPaul, an apostle (not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead)Ē
Romans 1:1 ďPaul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God
2 Timothy 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of GodĒ This is repeated over and over in his epistles (1 Cor.1:1; 2 Cor.2:1; Eph. 1:1; Col.1:1; 2 Tim1:1.) If this is not true then the Scripture is not inspired by God and cannot be trusted anywhere as accurate
I believe this!
Yes. We know you think Paul is God.

You are a Paulinist.

“Love much, trust none”

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#446687 Feb 22, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
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2 Peter 3:15-16
Bear in mind that our Lordís patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Peter loved Paul just as Jesus did
1. It wasn't written by Peter, it is a proven fraud.
2. Paul never met Jesus. Jesus was long dead while Paul was murdering Christians and Jews.

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#446688 Feb 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I thought so too at first. However after a year....
Ahh... does this prove that patience is a virtue?

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#446689 Feb 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Yes. We know you think Paul is God.
You are a Paulinist.
Paul's letters are the basis of "born again" ideology. OTOH many have epiphanies such as that Paul writes about in his letters.
Well

Knoxville, TN

#446690 Feb 22, 2013
DearthOfCouth wrote:
Why Iím no longer a Christian, Part Four
Finally, struggling with my private predicament in that pew during prayer service, I knew what it was that I had to do. I came to the realization that there was only one possible course of action that seemed to offer me any degree of self-respect, and there was no other course to take, so at long last I took it. I stood and walked out.
I did not look anyone in the eye as I passed and I have no idea whether anyone registered surprise, hostility, concern, or anything at all. For all I know they all faced forward and ignored me as I turned left at the end of the aisle and made my final exit from the building. The moment I reached the open air outside I was astonished to find that I was finally, after all this time, experiencing something that was vivid and genuine and undeniable. In fact it was nearly overpowering. It crested over me like a breaker:
Relief.
From now on, I resolved that day, I will not stop and examine my innermost thoughts and evaluate, whether they are appropriately reverent and sanctimonious. I will admit my doubts and reservations and when people ask me for my thoughts I will express them respectfully but openly, as I am doing now.
If everyone around me seems confident and secure where I am irresolute and sceptical then I decline to acknowledge this as a problem, for me or for anyone else. Thatís just the way it is.
Leaving the prayer meeting that day was a liberating, exhilarating, and truly life-changing experience for me. It was my ďbaptismĒ and I will never forget it.
Iím free.
If I have to account someday for the decisions Iíve made and the actions Iíve taken, then I will. But I wonít again lie to anyone that Iím feeling something or sensing something when Iím not. I wonít try to deceive anyone around me but most importantly I wonít lie to myself. Life is too short to waste it that way.
I read every word of your testimony. I also think I can understand every point you made. I think even though you say you are no longer a believer, your experience is very similar to that of many if not most believers.
You will make a great witness if you ever do turn back to searching for God. Now that you will be able to experience a true conversion and know it if/when it happens.
Don't give up on believing in something just because your experience as a child did not fulfill your expectations. It is obvious you never experienced a true conversion/acceptance of Christ.
There will be times in your life you will feel an emptiness that only Faith in God can fill. Don't ignore it. It will never hurt to open your heart again and invite Him into your life. At the right time for the right reason (if you won't shut him out) just pray and ask for truth to be revealed to you. If you do it with sincerity understanding what it is you are seeking, you will not be disappointed.
I hope you are not offended when I tell you I have said a prayer for you. You sound like a wonderful person.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

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#446691 Feb 22, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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... OTOH many have epiphanies such as that Paul writes about in his letters.
Like Muhammad ? <smile>

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#446692 Feb 22, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Ahh... does this prove that patience is a virtue?
LOL

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#446697 Feb 22, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
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Not PROVEN>>>
Correct. Nothing in the Bible is proven.

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#446698 Feb 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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ROFLMAO
So now Emperor Constantine is your God.
You are one hilarious pagan.
Hey G :-)

Have you seen this? It could be true, you never know <3

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#446699 Feb 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Correct. Nothing in the Bible is proven.
Not nothing, surely ;)

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#446700 Feb 22, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>new age is a lie everyday
I LOVE you Clownie but I disagree... It's the only truth I've ever known...

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