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“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#445328 Feb 15, 2013
Janitor Of The LORD wrote:
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Who or what do you believe created it?
I certainly don't have the belief that an invisible disembodied magical super brain created the entire universe, or that there was an active consciousness of any sort behind the origination of the universe at all.

There is no evidence that would support that assumption or idea.

I tend to think the universe may be cyclical in nature, but I wouldn't assert that as fact, or that you should *believe* that.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#445329 Feb 15, 2013
Janitor Of The LORD wrote:
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This is a very, very good post. Thank you for sharing, and I quite agree.
thanx bro/sis!:)

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#445330 Feb 15, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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LOL I started to...but I knew...someone else would be along shortly!
Authorized witness...one who agrees with your thinking...the rest of them don't count...
Besides...wasup was there...he saw those witnesses being authorized..."G"...d on't ya know nothin'?
Waassuup is the greatest man of his mind.

“Cleaning Up Christianity ”

Since: Jan 13

Topix Badlands

#445331 Feb 15, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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I certainly don't have the belief that an invisible disembodied magical super brain created the entire universe, or that there was an active consciousness of any sort behind the origination of the universe at all.
There is no evidence that would support that assumption or idea.
I tend to think the universe may be cyclical in nature, but I wouldn't assert that as fact, or that you should *believe* that.
Thank you. I appreciate your reply, and I agree with you that we all have the freewill to choose what we wish to believe in or not. I personally find creation to amazing and intricate to not be by intelligent design.

“Cleaning Up Christianity ”

Since: Jan 13

Topix Badlands

#445332 Feb 15, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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I certainly don't have the belief that an invisible disembodied magical super brain created the entire universe, or that there was an active consciousness of any sort behind the origination of the universe at all.
There is no evidence that would support that assumption or idea.
I tend to think the universe may be cyclical in nature, but I wouldn't assert that as fact, or that you should *believe* that.
On a side-note I don't give negative judgits but once in a blue-moon, and seldom give any at all. Since somebody here must have found their oatmeal peed in this morning, I gave you an 'interesting' because although that is not my belief, you explained yours, which is oodles more than some of the most prolific posters here have done. Thanks.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#445333 Feb 15, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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Says the guy that begins with the primary and defining assertion that an invisible disembodied magical super brain created the entire universe...
who do you think did?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#445335 Feb 15, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>who do you think did?
The non-anthropomorphic, non-diety creative and motive force of the Universe.

I call it God. It doesn't have a name for itself.

I call my cat Stormie. I don;t know what she calls herself, I think it something like "prrrrrrr prrrrrrrr prrrrrrr". That may be what she calls me though.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#445337 Feb 15, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Ok Annie, just change the subject and lie.
AnnieJ wrote:
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It would be rather boring don't you think??? If we all just posted..."I agree" and let it go at that.
NoStressForMe wrote:
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I agree. ;O)
Very boring.
O_O
Now who changed the subject and then lied to make it all about them?

You took a few words out of a series of posts and twisted and turned them until you found something to be pissed off about.

A few words that were initiated because of me saying that just because someone disagrees does not mean they are attacking.

It was never about you...maybe that is your problem.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#445339 Feb 15, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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The non-anthropomorphic, non-diety creative and motive force of the Universe.
I call it God. It doesn't have a name for itself.
I call my cat Stormie. I don;t know what she calls herself, I think it something like "prrrrrrr prrrrrrrr prrrrrrr". That may be what she calls me though.
My cat is named Jackson, he showed up one day and I give him some grub... the rest is history we now bunk together...

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#445340 Feb 15, 2013
I can't stand long posts! who the hell reads them

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#445341 Feb 15, 2013


G_O_D's 8th wedding with X singing his butt off

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#445342 Feb 15, 2013


X's 5th wife runs him off for farting

“Ungood doubleplus duckspeak.”

Since: Dec 12

Earth

#445344 Feb 15, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CgAmMM5T5jAXX

G_O_D's 8th wedding with X singing his butt off
Lol...that's pretty original though, despite the music...

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#445346 Feb 15, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Oh! Almost forgot.#1111
The number was 37

Thanks for helping to prove that prayer doesn't work.

Would you like to play again?

“Ungood doubleplus duckspeak.”

Since: Dec 12

Earth

#445347 Feb 15, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =zr9Pmc3YSAsXX

X's 5th wife runs him off for farting
EW.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#445348 Feb 15, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>My cat is named Jackson, he showed up one day and I give him some grub... the rest is history we now bunk together...
Same here.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#445351 Feb 15, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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IMO If there is a god/higher power then one can only perceive what the "will of God" is only in their own life. Even then it is foggy at best. Our own minds would interpret any "will" as to what we want to hear.
The other day a poster expressed how sad they were about the condition of mankind...their heart went out to God at how sad that he must be.
My response was...how do you know how God feels...maybe he perceives the world differently than we do.
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I personally don't perceive the delusion as the problem...only how we use that delusion.
We all have them in one way or another. I certainly do.
I "need" to see the beauty in the obscure and strange. I like to find messages in mud puddles...art in ant hills...treasures in a pile of junk...words that seem to come from within.
Is it all a delusion...I prefer to feel that it is inspired by some unknown higher power. In reality it might only be that I at times am able to find these things for myself.
To me...
It is not the delusion in its self...it is expecting everyone else to have the same delusion.
Speaking of that same delusion...that ant hill...intricate...delicate... such as a piece of old tattered lace.
Don't worry...I don't expect you to share my delusion! LOL
Don't even get me started on the naked trees...that one...I might condemn you to the fire pit if you can't see what I see!
:-)
When I ask a question about how a Christian rationizes a conflict in their beliefs (predestination/free will) and they respond by completely ignoring the conflict and telling me what God wants, that's a problem, as they immediately lose the respect of an intelligent person and should know that they should never expect their words, put in the mouth of God, to be respected.

We now medicate and treat people who think they know what God wants, just not nearly enough.

Since: Jul 10

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#445352 Feb 15, 2013
Janitor Of The LORD wrote:
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Thank you. I appreciate your reply, and I agree with you that we all have the freewill to choose what we wish to believe in or not.
Not only is Free Will incompatible with an omniscient, recent studies have shown that it is not even a valid concept. Don't equivocate choice with Free Will as espoused by theists. They are not analogous. Given almost identical scenarios, and individual will respond in an almost identical manner every time. We are products of our phenotypes, our DNA, and all that has passed before us throughout our evolution. While environment influences choice, heredity seals the deal. There are copious amounts of writing and study out there for you to peruse. It may make the theistic scales drop from your eyes. Use caution if you don't want your faith challenged.
Janitor Of The LORD wrote:
<quoted text> I personally find creation to amazing and intricate to not be by intelligent design.
Ah, but you are begging the question here. You call it creation and then claim it is intelligent design. How do you tie that into your culturally-conditioned idea of what a god or gods is, then, exactly?

From our fine friends at the Discovery Institute:

“The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.”

To have any scientific validity, theories need to set constraints on possible outcomes. That means there have to be potential observations and measurements not explicable by the theory. What potential observation or measurement could show that “certain features”(whatever that may mean) of the universe are not “best explained”(who judges whether or not an explanation is “best”?) by “intelligent cause”(what exactly does that mean? How does one distinguish between intelligent and non-intelligent cause?) To make a scientific case,(DI, not you, as i know you were not doing that) they need to come up with an hypothesis which can be tested, just as any other scientific hypothesis can be tested.

Here’s an example of a theory for those who consider ID as relevant, one that can be tested, and falsified. Listen to how precise it is, how predictive and specific it is.

“Any two material particles, or bodies, if free to move, will be accelerated toward each other with a force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.”

THAT is a robust theory, capable of being tested, observed, and falsified.

“We can’t explain some stuff so therefore design” isn’t a theory. It doesn’t deserve to be treated as one. It has no predictive power. It has no specific claims. It is vague and general. It has all the hallmarks of pseudoscience. I realize you are operating through emotion,,and not science, and that is fine, but to make the claim while begging the question, you do yourself a great disservice.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#445353 Feb 15, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
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You through, crybaby?
Get over it, Heffalump.
STOMP! STOMP!
Maybe...maybe not. Depends on if Juicylu wants to continue to twist words...make it all about her...then accuse me of being a liar.

Live with it.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#445354 Feb 15, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
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NOT ME! I STOMP RIGHT ON BY!
ANNIE'S BOO-HOOING DOESN'T INTEREST ME...
Then why read it??? You did...your problem...not mine.

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