Why I’m no longer a Christian

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#443008 Feb 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Whatever responsibility he actually bore for the disaster, Nero deflected attention by blaming members of the fledgling Christian religion for the fire. He ordered all manner of creative and brutal persecutions: Some were condemned to be dressed in animal skins and torn apart by dogs, while others were burned to death in nighttime pyres that provided light for the emperor’s garden parties.
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http://www.history.com/topics/nero
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook...
Good stuff, thanks.

Were you thinking that I had claimed that Nero never made torches out of Christians?

You really should pay closer attention.

Do you know the significance of being sewn into animal skins and torn apart by dogs? Maybe we can turn this into a learning experience.

Ripped from: http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/mosaic/ss/...
"When Actaeon, accompanied by his deer-hunting hounds, arrived at the spot where the goddess was about to bathe and saw her naked, she punished him by turning him into an antlered stag or, according to Pausanias, she put a deerskin -- pungent enough to attract dogs -- on him while he slept. In the version with a metamorphosis (yes, this transformation is one Ovid amply describes in Book III of his Metamorphoses), the newly created beast was scared and ran away, but then the dogs, searching for their beloved master, found him. Unfortunately for him, they recognized him only as their cervine prey and so, they tore him apart."

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#443009 Feb 8, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>to argue in something you don;t believe in is goofy!!! GOOFY
Take a deep breath, formulate your thoughts, and try to post in a coherent manner, clown.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#443010 Feb 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Is there something wrong with me wondering why the satanic stuff came up?
Absolutely not.

The attempted cover up was what I was referencing, not your inquiry.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#443011 Feb 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Is there something wrong with me wondering why the satanic stuff came up?
I know for a fact that I didn't do it.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#443012 Feb 8, 2013
Gather 'round and watch how the game is played in two posts.
G_O_D wrote:
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You are getting more like a Christian everyday, X.
On the first page there were 7 sites relating to violence against Christians and only 11 relating to generic serial killers and mass murders.
Watch the numbers carefully as my fingers never leave my hand.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#443013 Feb 8, 2013
And voila
G_O_D wrote:
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Yup and I followed her link and found 7 links to christians being killed for being christians and two about mass mudrers with no religious agendas.
Oops

“Cleaning Up Christianity ”

Since: Jan 13

Topix Badlands

#443014 Feb 8, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
Gather 'round and watch how the game is played in two posts.
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Watch the numbers carefully as my fingers never leave my hand.
We know, but where was your hand?

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#443015 Feb 8, 2013
Janitor Of The LORD wrote:
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We know, but where was your hand?
Attached to my arm, of course.

“Cleaning Up Christianity ”

Since: Jan 13

Topix Badlands

#443016 Feb 8, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Attached to my arm, of course.
Then it is pointless to ask where your fingers were. Did you smoke the numbers?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#443017 Feb 8, 2013
Okay...to lighten the mood...

While I was cruisin' the farmer's market today There was a guy doing 2 hoola hoops while playing an harmonica and balancing a guitar on his nose. It was a spiritual moment...

I think it was either a miracle...or a prophet trying to tell me something...I just couldn't figure out what...so I kept on movin'!

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#443018 Feb 8, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
<quoted text>Good stuff, thanks.

Were you thinking that I had claimed that Nero never made torches out of Christians?

You really should pay closer attention.

Do you know the significance of being sewn into animal skins and torn apart by dogs? Maybe we can turn this into a learning experience.

Ripped from: http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/mosaic/ss/...
"When Actaeon, accompanied by his deer-hunting hounds, arrived at the spot where the goddess was about to bathe and saw her naked, she punished him by turning him into an antlered stag or, according to Pausanias, she put a deerskin -- pungent enough to attract dogs -- on him while he slept. In the version with a metamorphosis (yes, this transformation is one Ovid amply describes in Book III of his Metamorphoses), the newly created beast was scared and ran away, but then the dogs, searching for their beloved master, found him. Unfortunately for him, they recognized him only as their cervine prey and so, they tore him apart."
No. My argument about Romans burning people before Christians existed was not with you X. They were brutal. Yes and so were Christians.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#443019 Feb 8, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
Okay...to lighten the mood...
While I was cruisin' the farmer's market today There was a guy doing 2 hoola hoops while playing an harmonica and balancing a guitar on his nose. It was a spiritual moment...
I think it was either a miracle...or a prophet trying to tell me something...I just couldn't figure out what...so I kept on movin'!
It was the the of that thing where it would when it happens during that just like it was supposed to when it did.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#443020 Feb 8, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
<quoted text>Absolutely not.

The attempted cover up was what I was referencing, not your inquiry.
But that's part of what I wondered. I typed 'Adam Lanza religion' in Safari and the first page that appeared was full of satanic stuff. I lost track of that shooting when I left the gun thread so last I read, region info had not come out.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#443021 Feb 8, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I know for a fact that I didn't do it.
Lol

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#443022 Feb 8, 2013
Janitor Of The LORD wrote:
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Then it is pointless to ask where your fingers were. Did you smoke the numbers?
I'm not even sure what that means.

I did smoke a turkey once.

Had the darndest time keeping it lit.

I don't see why it is so popular.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#443023 Feb 8, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
<quoted text>Absolutely not.

The attempted cover up was what I was referencing, not your inquiry.
Oh. You think I attempted to cover up, no, I was wrong and didn't check much before making my statements. I have no issues with being wrong.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#443024 Feb 8, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
Okay...to lighten the mood...

While I was cruisin' the farmer's market today There was a guy doing 2 hoola hoops while playing an harmonica and balancing a guitar on his nose. It was a spiritual moment...

I think it was either a miracle...or a prophet trying to tell me something...I just couldn't figure out what...so I kept on movin'!
That's impressive, I can't even manage one hoola hoop.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#443025 Feb 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>But that's part of what I wondered. I typed 'Adam Lanza religion' in Safari and the first page that appeared was full of satanic stuff. I lost track of that shooting when I left the gun thread so last I read, region info had not come out.
*religion info

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#443026 Feb 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>No. My argument about Romans burning people before Christians existed was not with you X. They were brutal. Yes and so were Christians.
But the Romans started it!

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#443027 Feb 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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But that's part of what I wondered. I typed 'Adam Lanza religion' in Safari and the first page that appeared was full of satanic stuff. I lost track of that shooting when I left the gun thread so last I read, region info had not come out.
Now I would think that the next question should be who are the people claiming that Adam Lanza was not a Christian, but a Satanist, which is technically just another cult of Christianity.

Was it Muslims, or Hindus, or atheists, or are they Christians?

It certainly appears to be an attempt to separate the atrocity from the religion. We see that a lot from the No True Scotsman Christians.

Notice that I have also never stated that his religion, or other Christians were to blame for his actions, only clarified, in response to your humorous internet based satanic-claim, that he and his mother were Catholics.

I said that the first link I saw was a reference to a mass killing by a Christian, not an example of persecuted Christians being killed for being Christian.

The reality throughout history, even in the Greco-Roman world is that Christians were usually officially convicted for breaking the law, not for being Christian.

The crime of early Christians was refusing to obey the laws of Roman society, which involved offering a token sacrifice to the gods, which was supposed to keep the culture in the good graces of the particular deities.

When modern Christians smuggle Bibles illegally into places where they are not allowed, or when Christian missionaries attempt to illegally convert people of other faiths, they are not persecuted for being Christians, they are convicted for disobeying the laws of the land.

They're criminals according to pertinant laws, willful lawbreakers, regardless of whether you or I happen to agree with those laws.

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