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#439705 Jan 28, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Yup. He could have written the names of their prostitutes in the sand.
That would have been clever blackmail.
Nikos Kazantzakis used that theory in "The Last Temptation".
But the fact remains that he erased it so no one will ever know.

Speculation is the grand scheme.

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#439706 Jan 28, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> The non response from atheists on this site says it all.
<quoted text> Christianity claims are exclusive as are Muslim claims. Both cannot be true which means they are both false or one is true and the other is not.
<quoted text> No. I am saying i can turn atheist in my thinking at any given moment and so can others. In order to commit crimes one has to be atheistic in their thinking. If they really believed they were accountable to God then they would not do wrong, because the consequences are severe even if they escape human justice.
<quoted text> Atheists define themselves. I'm not sure what you are getting at. We have an intuitive sense of justice and of right and wrong and it has a source. That source is God. Under atheism there is no ultimate justice and that is counter intuitive. Atheism is a necessary prerequisite for most crimes since the criminal assumes he can get away with it or it is done in the heat of passion which indicates a loss of control.
Muslims think they have the truth. Christians think they do. Both are equally valid as neither an provide proof for their claims. Both have one book, centuries old, with information that can be disproved contained therein. If even one thing can be disproved, then the whole work is suspect. Period. End of conversation.

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#439707 Jan 28, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> The non response from atheists on this site says it all.
First...most people on this thread do not define themselves as atheist. It is a common problem that most Christians that come here however define us all as atheist simple because we do not believe as you do. That is why I asked...who YOU were including in your definition of atheist.

Christianity claims are exclusive as are Muslim claims. Both cannot be true which means they are both false or one is true and the other is not.
I don't know about exclusive...there seems to be an overlap of beliefs between religions. As far as who is right...who is wrong...I dare say that no one religion is either. Truth generally is found somewhere in the middle.

No. I am saying i can turn atheist in my thinking at any given moment and so can others. In order to commit crimes one has to be atheistic in their thinking. If they really believed they were accountable to God then they would not do wrong, because the consequences are severe even if they escape human justice.
Do you know what the definition of atheist is?

So...by your standards...when you "sin"...you become atheist? Then later go back to being Christian? Sounds as if you are flipping a switch. A thought occurred though...do you lose your salvation during these atheist moments?
Atheists define themselves.


Those that claim to be atheist have variables to their beliefs just as Christians do...well maybe not as many variables as Christians.

You yourself tried to define them by the remarks in your post that I responded to initially. You defined them by attributing crime/sin to their beliefs. You defined them by claiming they did not hold themselves accountable for their actions.
I'm not sure what you are getting at. We have an intuitive sense of justice and of right and wrong and it has a source. That source is God. Under atheism there is no ultimate justice and that is counter intuitive. Atheism is a necessary prerequisite for most crimes since the criminal assumes he can get away with it or it is done in the heat of passion which indicates a loss of control.
All I was getting at is...how and whom do you classify atheists.

Let me ask...did you consider yourself an atheist when you posted what you did to "G"? If so...did for that time that it took you to write it did God not exist for you? Did you stop believing in him during that time?

LBR...your theory IMO sounds as if you are trying to put your wrong doings on to the shoulders of others...instead of just admitting that even those that are "saved" do wrong.

It also...at least IMO...sounds as if you have taken the words atheism and atheist and defined them to fit your agenda...your needs.

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#439708 Jan 28, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> But the fact remains that he erased it so no one will ever know....
If it ever happened at all.

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#439709 Jan 28, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>That would still not mean that it's a far off place nor that you have to wait till you die to have it. When you learn to think for yourself, let us know.
They often mistake "The Kingdom of God" with "Heaven".

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#439710 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Good one. No he accused the grey boxer as well as you of being my sock. I didn't think it was you.
<3
X was asking specifically about the book that you read and the author of it. He got a couple of responses from others that didn't answer his question...thus the "sock" comment. How could they answer a question that was specific to you?

That is all it was...

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#439711 Jan 28, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Matthew 26:63.''I adjure you by the living God that you tell us whether you are the Christ,(Messiah) the son of God.'' That does not mean the high priest was expecting a mere man as Messiah.
26:64....''You have said it yourself; never the less i tell you, hereafter you will see the son of man sitting at the right hand of Power (Psalm 110:1) and coming in the clouds of Heaven.''
Son of man and clouds of heaven are both referencing Daniel 7:13. It does not have to be exact. Right hand of power is beside God. This is not a man only.
<quoted text> Where?
And who inherits the new kingdom?
<quoted text>Don't know off hand what you are referencing. Most interpret Isaiah 53 as referring to Israel or a righteous remnant but Psalms 110:1 has the servant as seated at the right hand of God. They use Isaiah 49:3 as context for Isaiah 53 where the servant is Israel. This ignores Isaiah 49:5-6 where the identity of the servant is distinct from Israel. You are looking for explicit references but most are implicit. Either way the reaction of the high priest indicates he understood the claims of Jesus as the Isaiah servant or Messiah very well.
Thanks for sharing. If you're having trouble understanding Daniel, just give me a shout.

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#439712 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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That makes no sense X. I expected better from you.
Fortunately, I'm not your marionette.

Were you thinking that I care about your expectations?

The Christian Guilt Trip tactic only works on Christians, silly Christian.

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#439713 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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*Isaacson*
Gotcha, thanks.

I'll keep an eye out for it.

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#439714 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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I have no socks. I also would not attribute anything to the writings of Nietzsche.
I think we cleared up that moment of confusion.

Not a fan of Fred, eh?

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#439715 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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*rolling eyes at X accusing anyone who agrees with me a sock* I never thought of you as someone who could be so obtuse. Is it deliberate? There's more to life X. Truly.
Thanks for being here.

Remember, the Christian Guilt Trip tactic only works on Christians.

These are not the droids you're looking for.

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Northern Virginia

#439716 Jan 28, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Has anyone seen anything debunking, or further informing, the claim that a person who died showed a minute but measurable loss of mass at the moment of death? snopes attributes it as "True", insofar as the actual experiment and results, but I've heard nothing further on the matter.
He tried his experiement with 6 people and 12 or so dogs.
Of the 6 people he admitted that 4 were of the results were flops. The other 2 he claimed lost several grams but...he had no good way of determining when the persons actually died, some gained weight then lost it, etc. The evaporation of sweat, breathing, and such things made the whole thing a waste of time.
The dogs had to be intentionally killed for his experiement. His intention was dogs have no soul therefore they should not lose any weight when they die. He didn't take into account that dogs do not perspire like humans so his results were skewed that also...and a dozen healthy dogs died for his bullsh1t experiement.

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#439717 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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I have no power and am stuck in a flood area sweets. Sadly, real life has yanked me out of the beloved distraction that is topix. Some prayer would be appreciated Brother <3
Been there.

Keep your chin up.

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#439718 Jan 28, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Does that cost extra?
Not for you.

I'm at 138 so far. Just let me know when to quit.

I have no idea what you're going to do with all these erasers, but we aim to please at Xcntrik Enterprises.

My mouth tastes funny.

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#439719 Jan 28, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Especially when they give scriptures that have no relevance to the subject about which they are speaking and think that what the Bible actually says came from Go Thomas instead of Luke.
Still the best entertainment on the internet.

Well, at least since the midget lesbian clown sex website went down.

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#439720 Jan 28, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Just what Jesus would have said , right?
It's what he might have said to the Roman soldier driving a stake through his hand.

I know I wouldn't be happy.

“Selected Marksman”

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Northern Virginia

#439721 Jan 28, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> You can believe what you want to be true but if you impose standards on Theists and at the same time cling to your atheism which cannot be proven then there is an obvious logical inconsistancy in your conclusion. You need to re evaluate your atheism or remain forever a walking contradiction.
What stops an atheist from killing his neighbor if he hates him and believe he can escape human justice? Answer=nothing.
What stops a Theist from killing his neighbor if he believes he can escape human justice? Answer=God and judgement.
That is the difference.
It all boils down to the existance of your god-being and until your god-being presents itself your "answers" are no different.

Fail

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#439722 Jan 28, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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If it ever happened at all.
But it did result in the greatest Catholic Jesus joke ever told.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

"Mom?!!"

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#439723 Jan 28, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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It's what he might have said to the Roman soldier driving a stake through his hand.
I know I wouldn't be happy.
I thought He called out, "Jesus H.Christ !" ?
Oh wait, that was me. LOL

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#439725 Jan 28, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> The non response from atheists on this site says it all.
<quoted text> Christianity claims are exclusive as are Muslim claims. Both cannot be true which means they are both false or one is true and the other is not.
<quoted text> No. I am saying i can turn atheist in my thinking at any given moment and so can others. In order to commit crimes one has to be atheistic in their thinking. If they really believed they were accountable to God then they would not do wrong, because the consequences are severe even if they escape human justice.
<quoted text> Atheists define themselves. I'm not sure what you are getting at. We have an intuitive sense of justice and of right and wrong and it has a source. That source is God. Under atheism there is no ultimate justice and that is counter intuitive. Atheism is a necessary prerequisite for most crimes since the criminal assumes he can get away with it or it is done in the heat of passion which indicates a loss of control.
Sounds like just another silly christian trying to disassociate himself from christians who are criminals.
"They were never christians anyway"...sound familiar??

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