So, you admit you are responsible for Sand Creek and Wounded Knee?
I would not and do not hold myself responsible for the actions of others; if you think about it, that is the foundation of christianity.
It doesn't make you responsible for it. You took no part in it.
It still doesn't make us responsible for their actions and their choices.
Okay, now *that* I agree with.<quoted text>
I might be wrong but I think that you and Huh are looking at this in two different ways.
IMO our responsibility to the past lies in not allowing the atrocities to occur again in the future.
We did not allow Sand Creek, Wounded Knee, the Holocaust and other such attrocities to happen; they took place before we existed.<quoted text> The only way that this can occur is accepting that we (we being society) allowed them to happen.
I'm not angry with them personally (except with those who condone those criminal actions), and I do not blame them; I blame their religion.<quoted text> We have to understand why and how they occurred. In a sense we have to own them before we can change them or prevent them from happening again.
It is no different that you being angry with Christians about the break in that happened to you.
I'm not sooooo surrrrrre.....<quoted text> I sincerely doubt that any Christian on this thread physically was involved. Yet their responsibility lies in accepting that yes even Christians can commit horrendous acts. To deny that would be condoning the behavior of even a few. Hiding one's head in the sand about past events allows them to continue unchecked.
Taking responsibility is not the same as admitting guilt to a physical action...
I think there's a difference between admitting what a given society has done in the past and taking measures against repeating those actions, and actually taking personal responsibility for it.<quoted text>but to deny responsibility for past actions of our society opens the door for them to occur again.
Agreed.<quoted text> To think that they can't occur again is just burying out heads in the sand.
I don't; I blame their belief system. I condemn them for excusing and condoning what their bretheren, for lack of a better word, did in the past. Do I hold today's fanatics *responsible* for those actions of the past? No. They had no hand in it, they didn't exist then.<quoted text> We are no different than those of the past...we are just as capable of committing atrocities as they were...even the same ones that they did.
Kaitlyn...you can't have it both ways. You can't make today's Christian responsible for the burning of witches 200 or 300 years ago
The light just went on; we're talking about the difference between direct and indirect responsibility. I was thinking more along the lines of *direct* responsibility. Isn't there a different phrase--a synonym--for indirect responsibility?<quoted text> and then not take responsibility for the past actions of our society.
At least this is the way that I see...but what do I know??? LOL