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#435477 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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all false religions/mythologies conatin some truthfull analogies based from the bible. what's so hard about this to understand???
LOL *snort*

The ignorance of Christianity is always entertaining.

Doink

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#435478 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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you're gonna hafta answer to God for His use of this analogy since He's the One who gave it to jeremiah to explain it to the children of israel....
I will gladly answer for anything I say if it ever comes to pass that I should have to. I'm not worried one little bit.

I noticed you didn't give a different explanation in rebuttal. I assume that's because you don't have any understanding of the teaching. You could always prove me wrong and show me that you understand the underlying teaching of the words you copied from that verse.

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Since: Aug 07

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#435479 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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of course i'm aware that God is not dependent upon me or my belief in Him. BUT what kind of relationship could we have if it wasn't based on belief/trust? you see, unbelief in the obvious is merely an obstinant denial because of an offense that's coming between 2 individuals. i.e., the angry wife says to the husband "i'm going to pretend you're not there and just ignore you".
because of Jesus' finished work on the cross, there is NOTHING in the way between you and God the Father. why are you acting in unbelief as tho there were???
So, you admit that God does not need your belief but you need it in order to have a 'relationship' with a supernatural being. Good. That's a start on the road to sanity.

If everything is finished, why do you still believe that Armageddon will end it? You don't think things through to their logical end, do you?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#435480 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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it's really pretty easy to figure out which is the true God; just listen for the Name that's blasphemed by the fallen/hating world!
You and others blaspheme the God of Islam (which by the way, is the same God you worship) so that would be the God of Islam, right? You also blaspheme the Gods of all other religions. That would make them the one true God by your reckoning above.

You are so silly. You don't think anything through before spewing your silliness all over the pages of topix.

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Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#435481 Jan 14, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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LOL *snort*
The ignorance of Christianity is always entertaining.
Doink
Willful ignorance, at that. I once had a Mormon tell me that the Freemasons stole the rites of the Mormons from Joseph Smith. Smith was a member of the Freemasons before having his 'vision'. The Freemasons had their rituals starting in the 1600's. When I explained this to her, she totally lost it and told me I should 'pray about it'. Oh, well.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#435482 Jan 14, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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The Bible tells a story of a time before it was written, but the fact remains that much of it's mythology was borrowed from neighboring cultures which predated it.
"the fact remains..."

this is the whole problem; you don't have any facts to disprove what's documented in the Bible and therefore nothing you say will remain.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#435483 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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umm, Bible history predates the jews. abraham was not a jew and you can read all about his heritage from he to noah and from noah to adam.
Not exactly correct.

Abraham, Noah and Adam are mythical figures in stories, not historical figures.

Jewish historytelling begins in about the 7th-6th century BCE, around the time of King Josiah. It is known as the Deuteronomistic History, or the books of Joshua, Judges, Samuel and Kings.

The problem is that you're not familiar with the history, you're only familiar with the mythology. Fortunately, others are.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#435484 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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you're gonna hafta answer to God for His use of this analogy since He's the One who gave it to jeremiah to explain it to the children of israel....
Jeremiah also had something to say to you, but you will ignore that part.

Jeremiah 8:8 NET
How can you say,“We are wise! We have the law of the LORD”? The truth is, those who teach it have used their writings to make it say what it does not really mean.

DOH!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#435485 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"the fact remains..."
this is the whole problem; you don't have any facts to disprove what's documented in the Bible and therefore nothing you say will remain.
Origin of the Earth, life, and humans. All shown demonstrably wrong in the bible.

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#435486 Jan 14, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>What did Deitrich Bonehoefer's resistance to Nazi's change? What did Christianity change at all for the Jews who were killed?
You're reading books that gloify a man for his anti-Nazi stance, when it did nothing to change anything. It's just another book of apologetics written by another Christian to draw you in without thinking.
He was hung by the Nazis for his views.
While it is honorable to take a stand against the Nazis or any force like them, it doesn't mean that he made a change. He didn't. So his stance did no more good than those you call 'wishy-washy, hand-wringing liberals', as you indicate NS is by your post.
She is far from wishy-washy. I've never once seen her as a hand-wringing type of person, though I have seen you and your fundie brotherhood in that light. If by liberal, you mean following the teachings of Jesus and never losing her faith while being called names by those of her own belief system, then I'd have to say that would be right on target.
Congratulations. One thing right in a post of yours is almost unimaginable, but there it is.
you sure inferred and projected a LOT into my conversation with NS! get your own life!:)

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#435487 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"the fact remains..."
this is the whole problem; you don't have any facts to disprove what's documented in the Bible and therefore nothing you say will remain.
Not exactly. The flood story alone is disproved by several overlapping scientific disciplines, and the laws of physics besides. Ditto the two contradictory creation stories in Genesis. There is also no evidence that the Jews as a tribe were ever enslaved in Egypt, nor fled en mass into the desert with all of their belongings afterward. Ect ect ect. So yeah, actually, there are many facts which disprove various parts of the Bible. Not to mention the inconvenient fact that the Bible contradicts itself in the first place.

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#435488 Jan 14, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Willful ignorance, at that. I once had a Mormon tell me that the Freemasons stole the rites of the Mormons from Joseph Smith. Smith was a member of the Freemasons before having his 'vision'. The Freemasons had their rituals starting in the 1600's. When I explained this to her, she totally lost it and told me I should 'pray about it'. Oh, well.
The Revisionists

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#435489 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"the fact remains..."
this is the whole problem; you don't have any facts to disprove what's documented in the Bible and therefore nothing you say will remain.
You just lied for your religion, again.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#435490 Jan 14, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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You just lied for your religion, again.
You'd think at some point when you have to keep dancing around the facts (i.e., as you say, lying) that at some point a light-bulb would go off. But I guess he needs a god emotionally more than he values truth and reality. I guess that makes his God a kind of drug.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#435491 Jan 14, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Clay is a malleable substance. It is plastic in that it can be made into many different objects. It can be made into things useful for everyday life such as bowls, jugs, and bricks.
The potter makes the objects and fires them. It is up to the end user to decide how to use them.
A bowl can be used to serve up poisoned porridge or nourishing soup. A jug may hold acid or delicious lemonade. A brick may be used to stone your wife and children or build a house in which they may live comfortably.
You forget that without the clay, the potter would be just as empty of accomplishments as clay would be without the potter.
In other words, each are equally valuable.
In the case of God being the potter, it would mean he only makes the vessels and goods from available material, or clay. The end use is not at his discretion.
Each human being is the end user of life. We can provide a nourishing bowl of soup to a stranger or serve him poisoned soup until he dies or realizes what you're doing and goes to someone who has something nourishing and healing for him.
You can serve lemonade or acid. Acid will damage the person and leave them bitter toward you forever. Or, you can serve lemonade sweetened with honey and have him ask you for the recipe.
You can stone your wife, children and neighbors for what you believe they are doing wrong, or you can build a house where all are welcome.
It's all up to each individual.
When you choose to use the vessels in a way that makes others run from you, you will never be asked for a recipe. You'll never become a friend. You'll never be able to share anything else because you will not be trusted to do so.
You co-create the world with your deeds, words and thoughts. Not a single human being can manage to always use honey every time they speak. Not a single human being can manage to love every other person, as we do not have the capacity to see within their minds. Not a single human being can manage to build every house to be a welcoming place with a fire of kindness always burning.
But we can manage not to stone people with the bricks of hate. Bricks that were fired with the intent of providing comfort can be used for many other things not so pleasant.
All we can do is try to understand how to use the utensils and bricks in the most productive and compassionate way.
It is not up to your God or anyone else's to do this work. It is up to each individual.
When you realize this, you can change and truly be 'born again'.
Excellent dissertation! Bravo!

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Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#435492 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i'll answer your question if you answer mine:
in retrospect, who do you think were the more effective Christians in germany circa 30's - 40's; the wishy washy hand-wringing lutherans who thought their vocation was to smile and be friendly and who were afraid to speak-out when the nazi party was developing - or, the confessing church led by deitrich bonehoefer, who's members became opposed by the lutherans, persecuted, imprisoned and killed by the nazis???
How interesting….I always thought a conversation followed along the lines of - Statement made, another asks the person making the statement a question, the person answers the question - then follow’s up with their own question…<<shrugs> >

While I would stand more along the ideas that Dietrich Bonheoffer held, I would not have agreed with his idea of trying to take it upon myself to assassinate Hitler. In other words, I do not think I would have been a member of either Church. I find it interesting that you asked me this question though. I have always thought that looking back on the Third Reich and the Holocaust, is a good way to remember that we as individuals must look into what our Church leaders are telling us. I do not believe that they were being “wishy washy” as you put it. I think they were listening to their pastors and not questioning, in other words - they thought that they were doing right by God. If you think that it was just a Lutheran issue, and that this type of thing could never happen again, I believe that you are sadly mistaken. By the way, did you know that Dietrich was an Ordained Lutheran Pastor?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#435493 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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can you name one that began prior to 'in the beginning'?
the first false religion that i know of began when adam & eve put on fig leaves (first pagan costume) & attempted to hide from God.
You are truly the epitome of idiocy.

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#435494 Jan 14, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Yes link worked. Funny picture.
the hairy legs and bottom of his feet, were well rather creepy!

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#435495 Jan 14, 2013
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Nah. It's just a picnic. The fundies hate it when we have fun. Why would I spoil that? We just hire somebody to do the dirty work. It's all that money I get from redeeming my nuts/clueless/racy icons from Topix that allows that.
perhaps an explanation of the basket and how it came about would be helpful to those non-believers who are not aware of the basket!!!

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#435496 Jan 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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huh said "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world..."
key words being NATURAL WORLD.
we've been down this road, hon; when 'science' departs from the study of the physical & begins to speculate on the supernatural/metaphysical world and/or denies it's existance, it moves out of the realm of expertise and into the realm of being antichrist/satanic. don't be those dummies!
Do remember that the contrary is also true. When religion tries to speak about matters regarding the physical world (evolution, Big Bang, age of the Earth) it is moving out of its realm of expertise and is teaching superstition/nonsense.

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