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NoStress4me wrote:
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To be honest I took a serious pause before I posted that….I was much younger when I took my mythology class, so I thought I was remembering wrong. Watched the clip, now I am wondering about a possible correlation. So many questions….so little time. Hey G, good to read you!:O)
Good to see you back.

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God didn't create it's own enemies, and/or didn't foresee they would be enemies? Also, where are God's apparent insecurities coming from?
According to Christianity it is "only child syndrome". According to Judaism and Islam, it is "isolation induced dementia and megalomania".

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all false religions/mythologies conatin some truthfull analogies based from the bible. what's so hard about this to understand???
How were religions that existed thousands of years before the Jews even existed base anything on your book compiled in 325 AD.

You have got to be the biggest moron on Topix....or constantly stoned out of your mind.

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"shall the lump of clay say to the Potter "i have no need of you""?
whatcha think this whole life is all about, if not being a member of the family of God? why should our Creator tolerate insolent enemies of His plans & purposes???
Clay is a malleable substance. It is plastic in that it can be made into many different objects. It can be made into things useful for everyday life such as bowls, jugs, and bricks.

The potter makes the objects and fires them. It is up to the end user to decide how to use them.

A bowl can be used to serve up poisoned porridge or nourishing soup. A jug may hold acid or delicious lemonade. A brick may be used to stone your wife and children or build a house in which they may live comfortably.

You forget that without the clay, the potter would be just as empty of accomplishments as clay would be without the potter.

In other words, each are equally valuable.

In the case of God being the potter, it would mean he only makes the vessels and goods from available material, or clay. The end use is not at his discretion.

Each human being is the end user of life. We can provide a nourishing bowl of soup to a stranger or serve him poisoned soup until he dies or realizes what you're doing and goes to someone who has something nourishing and healing for him.

You can serve lemonade or acid. Acid will damage the person and leave them bitter toward you forever. Or, you can serve lemonade sweetened with honey and have him ask you for the recipe.

You can stone your wife, children and neighbors for what you believe they are doing wrong, or you can build a house where all are welcome.

It's all up to each individual.

When you choose to use the vessels in a way that makes others run from you, you will never be asked for a recipe. You'll never become a friend. You'll never be able to share anything else because you will not be trusted to do so.

You co-create the world with your deeds, words and thoughts. Not a single human being can manage to always use honey every time they speak. Not a single human being can manage to love every other person, as we do not have the capacity to see within their minds. Not a single human being can manage to build every house to be a welcoming place with a fire of kindness always burning.

But we can manage not to stone people with the bricks of hate. Bricks that were fired with the intent of providing comfort can be used for many other things not so pleasant.

All we can do is try to understand how to use the utensils and bricks in the most productive and compassionate way.

It is not up to your God or anyone else's to do this work. It is up to each individual.

When you realize this, you can change and truly be 'born again'.

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<quoted text> I'd also like to add:
When one seed is planted and carefully cultivated in good soil, giving water and nutrients only when needed (asked for), weeding out the outgrowth (our own pride) before it gets out of control, then the plant will produce a valuable product. When it is strewn carelessly and pervades neighbors lands, it not only destroys their soil but our own. We become proud of our many plants and blind to the fact that we have destroyed the very thing we wished to accomplish.
We must take the whole teaching in order to understand each of the ones preceding it and coming after
Thank you for this post and the one prior Water. <<hugs>> When it comes to what you said about thinking and personal journeys, I would like to express the same to you. I find several of you on here, to be a blessing in my life. The batting back and forth can be fun, but the posts that require honest thought…are priceless imo. Thank you for the seeds that you have shared on here my friend.

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FYI, you aren't going to understand waaaas's non-answer until you agree to brainwash yourself first.
Hey Wildride, good to read you! Just asking him to see if he has asked himself these questions.

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G_O_D wrote:
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Your deities are lumps of clay.
I prefer the real God of the Universe.
Yet with every lump of clay, there exists possibilities. While waasssuuuppp has the lump of clay and has done nothing with it, look at the vessel which NS has produced with hers.

'The real God of the Universe' is that God which every single individual, including you and me, dreams into being. Some dreamt Gods are just better than others.

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NoStress4me wrote:
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I find it interesting (as well as odd) that your two posts above, reminded of this scene in Clash of the Titans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-6eVxccWohUXX
It has been a while since I attended a class on Greek mythology. I guess need a refresher course to understand why I personally read a link between what you wrote and this movie based on Greek mythology. <<shrugs>>
I'm sure it will come to you. Your mind is beautiful, NS.

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That is a name I have not read in a while. Hello Water, it’s good to read you! I still have yet to try and make the recipes you gave me. Life is just now settling down after the everyone home during the holidays 'chuckle. I think I am ready though, no kitchen catastrophes to report from the holidays.....
<<knocks on wood>>
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Improvements abound! I'm glad you got through the holidays with no explosions, fires, or other calamities. I think you're well on your way to being a chef.

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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all false religions/mythologies conatin some truthfull analogies based from the bible. what's so hard about this to understand???
The Bible did not exist when those myths were in vogue. Try again.

All myths contain a seed of truth. None of them contain the whole truth. Of what use would it be to be spoon fed something and learn nothing?

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wilderide wrote:
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Please explain how being afraid of God radically changes the nature of logic. This should be really good.
go figure out what 'should the lump of clay say to the Potter "i have no need of you"' means and then maybe we'll have a basis for communication regarding this subject:)

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Even the ones which pre-date the Bible?
Even ones which had no contact with Judeo-Christian ideology?
can you name one that began prior to 'in the beginning'?

the first false religion that i know of began when adam & eve put on fig leaves (first pagan costume) & attempted to hide from God.

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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the first thing you should know before you'll understand anything else is; "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom".
if you don't know enough to respect Someone who's much greater than you, how am i suppose to explain even the simplest of the things to you???
Fear simply equals False appearances appearing real.

The word used for fear in the Bible (yare`)regarding God can mean to terrify or be afraid. But understood, it means stand in reverence of, stand in awe of, revere.

1) to fear, revere, be afraid
a)(Qal)
1) to fear, be afraid
2) to stand in awe of, be awed
3) to fear, reverence, honour, respect
b)(Niphal)
1) to be fearful, be dreadful, be feared
2) to cause astonishment and awe, be held in awe
3) to inspire reverence or godly fear or awe
c)(Piel) to make afraid, terrify
2)(TWOT) to shoot, pour

Why would actual fear inspire anyone to love? How is that possible? Again you take a verse whose words you know nothing of and use it to pound someone over the head in hopes they will kneel before _you_, not God.

Who is this that knows much better than we? Certainly it is not you. I think that's what bothers you and keeps you pounding away at people. People don't believe in _you_. Your ego makes you fail at every attempt however.

You are the one in fear. You believe you are to fear the very being you call loving and just. The contradiction this creates in your mind is makes you repeat your actions of failure time and again. You try to spread your fear.

Would it not be much better to stand in awe of something greater than yourself and try to understand it than cower in fear?

You cannot truly love anything of which you are fearful. Others outside your religion are able to see this, yet you are blinded to truth by your own fears.

You cannot pass your fears onto those who see how foolish it is to say in one sentence that we are to fear something and say in the next that this same something is lovable. It is not possible.

You can't explain anything to anyone. Your lack of understanding has shown through quite clearly here for the past few years. Why would anyone want you to explain something to them when they know you know nothing of the subject which you claim to be able to teach?

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Please explain how being afraid of God radically changes the nature of logic. This should be really good.
You will not get an answer. Rather, you will get more circle dances and condemnations with a large dose of 'I'm the great teacher'. Bah, humbug.

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Good to see you back.
NS is always a breath of fresh air. I like people who think! And I love and respect her for her faith, though I do not agree with many of the tenets of her belief system. That's the sign of someone living their beliefs, rather than using them to bludgeon others with them, IMO.

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NoStress4me wrote:
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Few quick questions then, if I may?
The scripture you gave, did the text predate Greek mythology?(old or new testament if you will)
If the scripture you posted came after Greek mythology, how was Greek mythology based on the scripture that you posted?
i'll answer your question if you answer mine:

in retrospect, who do you think were the more effective Christians in germany circa 30's - 40's; the wishy washy hand-wringing lutherans who thought their vocation was to smile and be friendly and who were afraid to speak-out when the nazi party was developing - or, the confessing church led by deitrich bonehoefer, who's members became opposed by the lutherans, persecuted, imprisoned and killed by the nazis???

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How were religions that existed thousands of years before the Jews even existed base anything on your book compiled in 325 AD.
You have got to be the biggest moron on Topix....or constantly stoned out of your mind.
WTF is it that you believe, AGAIN?

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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can you name one that began prior to 'in the beginning'?
the first false religion that i know of began when adam & eve put on fig leaves (first pagan costume) & attempted to hide from God.
This is one of the most ridiculous things you've ever written, and you've written some pretty ridiculous stuff.

Oh well, onward and upward.

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Clay is a malleable substance. It is plastic in that it can be made into many different objects. It can be made into things useful for everyday life such as bowls, jugs, and bricks.
The potter makes the objects and fires them. It is up to the end user to decide how to use them.
A bowl can be used to serve up poisoned porridge or nourishing soup. A jug may hold acid or delicious lemonade. A brick may be used to stone your wife and children or build a house in which they may live comfortably.
You forget that without the clay, the potter would be just as empty of accomplishments as clay would be without the potter.
In other words, each are equally valuable.
In the case of God being the potter, it would mean he only makes the vessels and goods from available material, or clay. The end use is not at his discretion.
Each human being is the end user of life. We can provide a nourishing bowl of soup to a stranger or serve him poisoned soup until he dies or realizes what you're doing and goes to someone who has something nourishing and healing for him.
You can serve lemonade or acid. Acid will damage the person and leave them bitter toward you forever. Or, you can serve lemonade sweetened with honey and have him ask you for the recipe.
You can stone your wife, children and neighbors for what you believe they are doing wrong, or you can build a house where all are welcome.
It's all up to each individual.
When you choose to use the vessels in a way that makes others run from you, you will never be asked for a recipe. You'll never become a friend. You'll never be able to share anything else because you will not be trusted to do so.
You co-create the world with your deeds, words and thoughts. Not a single human being can manage to always use honey every time they speak. Not a single human being can manage to love every other person, as we do not have the capacity to see within their minds. Not a single human being can manage to build every house to be a welcoming place with a fire of kindness always burning.
But we can manage not to stone people with the bricks of hate. Bricks that were fired with the intent of providing comfort can be used for many other things not so pleasant.
All we can do is try to understand how to use the utensils and bricks in the most productive and compassionate way.
It is not up to your God or anyone else's to do this work. It is up to each individual.
When you realize this, you can change and truly be 'born again'.
you're gonna hafta answer to God for His use of this analogy since He's the One who gave it to jeremiah to explain it to the children of israel....

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NoStress4me wrote:
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Hey Wildride, good to read you! Just asking him to see if he has asked himself these questions.
Oh I know. My questions to him are largely rhetorical too. He seems pretty bullet-proof logic-wise though.

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