Why I’m no longer a Christian

wilderide wrote:

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FYI, you aren't going to understand waaaas's non-answer until you agree to brainwash yourself first.

G_O_D wrote:

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Your deities are lumps of clay.
I prefer the real God of the Universe.

NoStress4me wrote:

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I find it interesting (as well as odd) that your two posts above, reminded of this scene in Clash of the Titans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-6eVxccWohUXX
It has been a while since I attended a class on Greek mythology. I guess need a refresher course to understand why I personally read a link between what you wrote and this movie based on Greek mythology. <<shrugs>>

NoStress4me wrote:

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That is a name I have not read in a while. Hello Water, it’s good to read you! I still have yet to try and make the recipes you gave me. Life is just now settling down after the everyone home during the holidays 'chuckle. I think I am ready though, no kitchen catastrophes to report from the holidays.....
<<knocks on wood>>
;0)

waaasssuuup wrote:

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all false religions/mythologies conatin some truthfull analogies based from the bible. what's so hard about this to understand???

wilderide wrote:

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Please explain how being afraid of God radically changes the nature of logic. This should be really good.

wilderide wrote:

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Even the ones which pre-date the Bible?
Even ones which had no contact with Judeo-Christian ideology?

waaasssuuup wrote:

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the first thing you should know before you'll understand anything else is; "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom".
if you don't know enough to respect Someone who's much greater than you, how am i suppose to explain even the simplest of the things to you???

wilderide wrote:

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Please explain how being afraid of God radically changes the nature of logic. This should be really good.

G_O_D wrote:

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Good to see you back.

NoStress4me wrote:

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Few quick questions then, if I may?
The scripture you gave, did the text predate Greek mythology?(old or new testament if you will)
If the scripture you posted came after Greek mythology, how was Greek mythology based on the scripture that you posted?

G_O_D wrote:

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How were religions that existed thousands of years before the Jews even existed base anything on your book compiled in 325 AD.
You have got to be the biggest moron on Topix....or constantly stoned out of your mind.

waaasssuuup wrote:

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can you name one that began prior to 'in the beginning'?
the first false religion that i know of began when adam & eve put on fig leaves (first pagan costume) & attempted to hide from God.

water_nymph wrote:

<quoted text>Clay is a malleable substance. It is plastic in that it can be made into many different objects. It can be made into things useful for everyday life such as bowls, jugs, and bricks.
The potter makes the objects and fires them. It is up to the end user to decide how to use them.
A bowl can be used to serve up poisoned porridge or nourishing soup. A jug may hold acid or delicious lemonade. A brick may be used to stone your wife and children or build a house in which they may live comfortably.
You forget that without the clay, the potter would be just as empty of accomplishments as clay would be without the potter.
In other words, each are equally valuable.
In the case of God being the potter, it would mean he only makes the vessels and goods from available material, or clay. The end use is not at his discretion.
Each human being is the end user of life. We can provide a nourishing bowl of soup to a stranger or serve him poisoned soup until he dies or realizes what you're doing and goes to someone who has something nourishing and healing for him.
You can serve lemonade or acid. Acid will damage the person and leave them bitter toward you forever. Or, you can serve lemonade sweetened with honey and have him ask you for the recipe.
You can stone your wife, children and neighbors for what you believe they are doing wrong, or you can build a house where all are welcome.
It's all up to each individual.
When you choose to use the vessels in a way that makes others run from you, you will never be asked for a recipe. You'll never become a friend. You'll never be able to share anything else because you will not be trusted to do so.
You co-create the world with your deeds, words and thoughts. Not a single human being can manage to always use honey every time they speak. Not a single human being can manage to love every other person, as we do not have the capacity to see within their minds. Not a single human being can manage to build every house to be a welcoming place with a fire of kindness always burning.
But we can manage not to stone people with the bricks of hate. Bricks that were fired with the intent of providing comfort can be used for many other things not so pleasant.
All we can do is try to understand how to use the utensils and bricks in the most productive and compassionate way.
It is not up to your God or anyone else's to do this work. It is up to each individual.
When you realize this, you can change and truly be 'born again'.

NoStress4me wrote:

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Hey Wildride, good to read you! Just asking him to see if he has asked himself these questions.

waaasssuuup wrote:

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go figure out what 'should the lump of clay say to the Potter "i have no need of you"' means and then maybe we'll have a basis for communication regarding this subject:)

waaasssuuup wrote:

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can you name one that began prior to 'in the beginning'?
the first false religion that i know of began when adam & eve put on fig leaves (first pagan costume) & attempted to hide from God.

water_nymph wrote:

<quoted text> You will not get an answer. Rather, you will get more circle dances and condemnations with a large dose of 'I'm the great teacher'. Bah, humbug.

waaasssuuup wrote:

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WTF is it that you believe, AGAIN?