Why I’m no longer a Christian
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434816 Jan 11, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>what does the bible say?
Ooooh, Oooh, I know. It says, "Snap, crackle, pop!", when you use it for its intended and only useful purpose, kindling?
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434817 Jan 11, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>The holy word of God
You misspelled holey.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434818 Jan 11, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Not even a smooth dodge.
Pretty much what I just said - I can be saved and live with God forever only if I believe God can save me from......God.
God as Vito Corleone. I'm making youse an offer youse can't refuse. Now make sure you pay the protection money.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434819 Jan 11, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Yet Thomas was not condemned for requiring proof.
I require no less, nor more, than Thomas.
It's doubtful you'll ever get any.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434820 Jan 11, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Let's see if I got this straight: God created me, but stuck me on this planet, with no way to leave but die. God created this this evil critter of which you speak, and it can go anywhere, but for funsies, God gave it dominion over this planet, so it won't wander off. God further sent his only son down to die a death more horrible than slaughtering a hog. He did all this so I can be saved from this evil critter, and live forever with the God who instigated the whole travesty?
In short, I can be saved only if I believe God can save me from......God?
I'll take Door #3, Monty.
Take the reds, man.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434821 Jan 11, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
By definition, any time we are talking about Gods, we are talking about mythology.
FYI, I generally don't have a problem with the God of the Bible. Many of my best friends are Jewish. Judaism is a henotheistic religion: all children of Israel are expected to worship one particular Deity. They don't care if others want to worship Him or not. The problem that I have is that the monotheisms (xianity and is-lame) want to insist that every one worship the way THEY think people should. No thinks, I don't worship false gods.
Except that Fundamentalist Judaism considers non-Jews as less than animals.

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

Judeo-Christian values. Bwahahahha

Oh, and before the foreskin-munching G-O-D declares the Talmud as lesser than, Israeli Jews don't consider Ethiopian Jews as real Jews because they don't recognize the Talmud.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434822 Jan 11, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus came to this world because Joseph had sex with Mary.
And according to the Talmud, Mary got around.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#434823 Jan 11, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
you're as nutty as a squirrel turd...
What's wrong clownie, no FAITH in jesus word?

Clearly you would have jumped at the chance to prove all of us wrong.

Yet you just try to come up with something cleaver. The ONLY thing left to find out is how much did your imaginary jesus lie, since it has now been established that he did, or more likely that jesus never existed in the first place.

The following famous writers all lived during the time, or within a century after the time, that Jesus is supposed to have lived. Yet NONE of them EVER mentioned the existence of any jesus figure nor do any of these authors ever make note of the imaginary Disciples or Apostles. Care to explain how that could possibly happen with fact?

Josephus
Philo-Judæus
Seneca
Pliny Elder
Arrian
Petronius
Dion Pruseus
Paterculus
Suetonius
Juvenal
Martial
Persius
Plutarch
Pliny Younger
Tacitus
Justus of Tiberius
Apollonius
Quintilian
Lucanus
Epictetus
Hermogones Silius Italicus
Statius
Ptolemy
Appian
Phlegon
Phædrus
Valerius Maximus
Lucian
Pausanias
Florus Lucius
Quintius Curtius
Aulus Gellius
Dio Chrysostom
Columella
Valerius Flaccus
Damis
Favorinus
Lysias
Pomponius Mela
Appion of Alexandria
Theon of Smyrn

Weird huh?
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434824 Jan 11, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>this is a lie!!! Jesus is God dummy
Jesus is god dummy? Bwahahahahahaha.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434825 Jan 11, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd call that a body slam.
Clowns in a barrel.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434826 Jan 11, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
gimme a break! i'm not the least bit romanticaly interested in you or anyone else in the goofy cyber world so don't flatter yourself. i have a sense of humor and i refuse to be bullied out of it by you haters who think you can say anything you want but keep christians confined to a tiny box. it ain't gonna happen w/me, i will call your hypocricy on the carpet every time!!!
Learn to spell. Learn to think.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#434827 Jan 11, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. A comedian.
I need to get new glasses. I thought you said Hope (as in Bob Hope) the comedian...

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#434828 Jan 11, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
The Hebrew says "hills" not "mountains". The cubit conversion of the height of the waters comes out to about 27 feet.
After a little more research, I found that the word used for both hills and mountains,'har', in the Christian Bible is also the word used in the Torah. That word can mean hill, mountain, mount, or a range of hills.

Still, if the ark was lifted up by the flood waters and then settled on top of Mt Ararat, the word there would be 'mountain'. That would mean that the 15 cubits of water was above Mt Ararat.

Reading the Hebrew scriptures (chapter 8 in the Christian Bible) I think you will find that it actually does mean 'mountains'.

Whether or not it is mountains, the other questions are still valid.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434829 Jan 11, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't speak for others, but I think I pretty much understand what you have.
Your religion gives you an excuse for behaving badly. And when even you cannot excuse your behavior based on your religion, it nevertheless absolves you of culpability for that bad behavior, as well as immunizes you against any liability for it -- at least in your mind.
It's also a short cut to being right for you no matter how wrong you are. It allows you without serious education or effort to pretend you're right because your myth agrees with you.
And it provides you with a sense of superiority over those who clearly are your superiors -- intellectually, spiritually, and morally.
The one thing it may not provide for you that it commonly provides other fundies is a sense of community.
I doubt you have any real community. Probably not even a church you regularly attend. I can't prove that, but it is my hunch based on years of experience on Topix. And I will consider any response from you contra a probable prevarication.
By the way, you've demonstrated repeatedly that you have only the most rudimentary familiarity with "the Bible". I'm not even talking about understanding, just simple familiarity. That's because what it says is of little consequence to what you want to believe and what you want it to do for you.
Boom!
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434830 Jan 11, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but anyone who worships the God of the Bible is expected to obey the commandments in Leviticus, which includes a prohibition on incest. Note that this prohibition took place long after Lot & his daughters got it on...
Where it becomes questionable again is that the prohibition against incest says to not do it because it is <tow'ebah> an abomination because it is something done as worship of a foreign God...
Lot and his daughters ran away so fast yet somehow carried enough wine that Daddy could get so drunk he didn't recognize his own kids, yet, somehow, he didn't suffer from whiskey dick. I call Bulshirt on that story.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434831 Jan 11, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, man... I've been watching the show on DVD. You just spoiled the ending.
:(
Please don't tell me how Titanic 2 ends. I couldn't believe they sank the boat in the first one. It was the star of the movie.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434832 Jan 11, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
it IS about what you believe, cuz other than what the bible teaches about creation, there are only scientific theories/speculations (aka beliefs). therefore, you are either believing the bible or pseudo-science.
you better prove to me that you have a nice ass somehow or else arguing with you like this is gonna get old fast;)
You are fractally wrong. It is a damn shame that people like you still exist in 2013. You are a drain on society.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434833 Jan 11, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
i realize you can't fully understand what i have in the Bible cuz it's not written for antagonists.
so....what do you have?
It is written for morons. You fit in well.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434835 Jan 11, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
well He still is in the business of transforming the natures of those who call on His Name. do you know anything or anyone else who can do that?:)
Anyone can do it, without a fictional character. People change for the better and the worse all the time. Those that change for the better without ascribing it to a pocket god are actually more likely to sustain the positive changes. Yet, somehow, you still remain an ignorant, uneducated idiot.
Huh

Fort Worth, TX

#434836 Jan 11, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>What's wrong clownie, no FAITH in jesus word?
Clearly you would have jumped at the chance to prove all of us wrong.
Yet you just try to come up with something cleaver. The ONLY thing left to find out is how much did your imaginary jesus lie, since it has now been established that he did, or more likely that jesus never existed in the first place.
The following famous writers all lived during the time, or within a century after the time, that Jesus is supposed to have lived. Yet NONE of them EVER mentioned the existence of any jesus figure nor do any of these authors ever make note of the imaginary Disciples or Apostles. Care to explain how that could possibly happen with fact?
Josephus
Philo-Judæus
Seneca
Pliny Elder
Arrian
Petronius
Dion Pruseus
Paterculus
Suetonius
Juvenal
Martial
Persius
Plutarch
Pliny Younger
Tacitus
Justus of Tiberius
Apollonius
Quintilian
Lucanus
Epictetus
Hermogones Silius Italicus
Statius
Ptolemy
Appian
Phlegon
Phædrus
Valerius Maximus
Lucian
Pausanias
Florus Lucius
Quintius Curtius
Aulus Gellius
Dio Chrysostom
Columella
Valerius Flaccus
Damis
Favorinus
Lysias
Pomponius Mela
Appion of Alexandria
Theon of Smyrn
Weird huh?
You'd think the allegedly most transformative figure in the history of the world would have left a bigger paper trail. Instead? Nothing. Even Harry Potter has extra-Rowlands exculpatory deposition.

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