Why I’m no longer a Christian

[waaasssuuup]

wilderide wrote:

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I'm curious: what is your rationale for a deity that cares whether individual humans believe in it or not? Is it like Tinkerbelle? How does that work?

we've been down this road many times and for years now, wild; this is not rocket science and you may want to write it down:

do your parents care if you acknowledge them or not or were you raised by the equivalent of a pack of wolves?

[DearthOfCouth]

waaasssuuup wrote:

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i can't speak for all theories, but mine is that this ornate & intricate creation came from a Divine Creator. this Creator has a Son named Jesus who came here about 2013 years ago in the flesh and anyone who doesn't have their head up the devil's ass can learn all about Him!
now, are you gonna tell me yours, strawman?

I decline on the grounds that I don't have a theory. I don't feel the need for one. Should I?

Yours seems a little silly to me, but I don't see any reason for that to trouble you.

[waaasssuuup]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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My religion?
Have you been paying attention?

yes -your religion/belief system: who do you listen to & read regarding theories about the origin of the universe, the historic documantation found in the Bible...etc? what are some of the names of your respected teachers/priests and prophets?

[wilderide]

waaasssuuup wrote:

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"The truth is..."
and you can prove this "truth" or is it just your religious (aka selfish denial so you can do whatever you please) belief?

Can I prove that science doesn't know definitively how the universe or life began? Wha?

Conversely, can you prove the claims made by your specific religion as to the origins of the universe and life on Earth? I know they, like all other claims, are not "truth" until they are proved to be so. Meanwhile, Judeo-Christian claims are no more valid than the claims of any other religion, past or present.

[wilderide]

waaasssuuup wrote:

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we've been down this road many times and for years now, wild; this is not rocket science and you may want to write it down:
do your parents care if you acknowledge them or not or were you raised by the equivalent of a pack of wolves?

Really? Your rationale is to compare God to a human parent? First off, I can't think of any human parents who would gladly commit their children to eternal torture if the children didn't believe their parents were theirs.

[wilderide]

waaasssuuup wrote:

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yes -your religion/belief system: who do you listen to & read regarding theories about the origin of the universe, the historic documantation found in the Bible...etc? what are some of the names of your respected teachers/priests and prophets?

Science: The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Religion: The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods. A particular system of faith and worship.

Hope that helps.

[T-Town Clown]

wilderide wrote:

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Really? Your rationale is to compare God to a human parent? First off, I can't think of any human parents who would gladly commit their children to eternal torture if the children didn't believe their parents were theirs.

Noticed you just came around, all I can say is I am glad that some young boys got time to get away from you while you took the time to get on here...

[T-Town Clown]

Mr Wiggley wrote:

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Daytonaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!

It won't be long!!!!!!!!!!

[T-Town Clown]

wilderide wrote:

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Science: The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
Religion: The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods. A particular system of faith and worship.
Hope that helps.

Wrong is wrong! And, unfortunately for you ... you're pretty much always wrong! But, never fear ... Professor Clownie is here, with the corrections to your wrongful ways!
ya hear me boy

[wilderide]

T-Town Clown wrote:

<quoted text>Noticed you just came around, all I can say is I am glad that some young boys got time to get away from you while you took the time to get on here...

Is that the spirit of Jesus speaking through you?

[T-Town Clown]

wilderide wrote:

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Is that the spirit of Jesus speaking through you?

Im saved! you're not..

[T-Town Clown]

wilderide wrote:

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Really? Your rationale is to compare God to a human parent? First off, I can't think of any human parents who would gladly commit their children to eternal torture if the children didn't believe their parents were theirs.

Coach Clownie's Question of the Day: Will you come out of the closet before the start of the next year Inquiring minds want to know!

And remember...
"If anyone knows ... Coach Clownie knows!
Clownie is watching you boy

[DearthOfCouth]

wilderide wrote:

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Is that the spirit of Jesus speaking through you?

Of course.

His imaginary friends hate all the same people he hates.

You're not surprised, are you?

[waaasssuuup]

NoStress4me wrote:

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Do you believe that faith is a gift from God?

yes - i believe that it's a gift given to those want it, who ask, knock & seek.

don't tell me that you're still in the business of defending blasphemeres and opposing faith seekers, no stress!

[DearthOfCouth]

T-Town Clown wrote:

<quoted text>Im saved! you're not..

Saved from--

God?

[waaasssuuup]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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Yet another strawman.
Picking up a trend.
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Well, I'm genuinely sorry if my thoughts offend you.
Of course, this is a forum for freethinkers, and you are here voluntarily.
And if perchance an all-knowing, all-powerful master of the universe exists, I cannot bring myself to believe that he concerns himself with my thoughts and opinions, one way or another.

your not the freethinker that you suppose; you're of the same mind/spirit as all opposers of God and i challenge you to try and think otherwise.

[waaasssuuup]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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I'm still stumped.
What is a "proof of origin" and why must I have one?

oh good grief! are you a defense attorney for the mafia or something?

[waaasssuuup]

KittenKoder wrote:

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It would be nice if you presented a case first.

the "CASE" is that the creation all around us screams of a Creator and this Creator revealed Himself through His Son.

continue to squirm away....

[Rider on the Storm]

T-Town Clown wrote:

<quoted text>Coach Clownie's Question of the Day: Will you come out of the closet before the start of the next year Inquiring minds want to know!
And remember...
"If anyone knows ... Coach Clownie knows!
Clownie is watching you boy

Penn State alum huh?

Weirdo..........

[waaasssuuup]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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I decline on the grounds that I don't have a theory. I don't feel the need for one. Should I?
Yours seems a little silly to me, but I don't see any reason for that to trouble you.

i guess you should care about where you came from and why you're here only if you care to give credit and be accountable to anyone greater than yourself.