Why I’m no longer a Christian

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#433285 Jan 6, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Not by your rantings.
<3
Agreed.

The greatest proof of the failure of Christianity is Christians.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#433286 Jan 6, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Don’t forget ‘christian scientists’,‘virgin mother’ and ‘holy crap’.
Here's another one you'll like:

Justice Scalia

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#433287 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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It appears you can add TLC to that list of socks.
Nah, tlc is Doc of many Doc socks, I'm tracking him (cause I'm an agent of the NWO, lol), have been since before I came to this thread.
<3

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#433288 Jan 6, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>Only if it would force you to waste your bullet money in attempting to prosecute me. Nothing would please me more than hearing how much your lawyer would laugh at you for bringing this to his desk .
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JR aka "Viking" is one of those hate-spewing christian fundamentalists who would love to go out and kill someone, and then blame it on "the atheists." He needs to be in a mental hospital.
JR and Viking are very different, Viking is repulsive and not at all funny or intelligent. Two major markers for the loony nutty funny brilliant Doc, we (at the NWO HQ, lol) wish to study Doc's brain.
<3

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#433289 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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It also counters the arguement that Paul didn't use a written 'gospel' text. The word 'scripture' is not refering to oral tradition.
Which leaves my question to Christians still valid, "Which gospel did Paul say was the only ONE he preached and that all others were to be condemned ?"
Thanks for that post.
*sigh*
<3

Since: Dec 12

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#433290 Jan 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Here's another one you'll like:
Justice Scalia
Religious education.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#433291 Jan 6, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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I don't know the history well enough to know whether many with a vote believed some of the now obvious pseudepigrapha, such as 2 Peter, were just that. If I recall correctly, some texts that made it into the canon were questioned with respect to their authenticity. But I'm not sure fake document were by consensus intentionally included. Maybe.
I assume documents with a clear gnostic bent didn't stand a chance in the canonization process -- except for Mark, which bears a soft gnostic ring to it.
This post probably needs a bit of clarification. I have never seen the term "pseudepigrapha" ever applied to the gospels. Perhaps it has been. But to me there is a distinction between an author who pretends to be someone else and a text that was not intending to deceive the reader about authorship but later was ascribed by others to another person to grant that text authority it might not otherwise garner.

The only texts in the NT that clearly are properly ascribed to the rightful author are the genuine letters of Paul. Others, such as Luke/Acts maybe properly ascribed, but not certainly so.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#433292 Jan 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Hey Juicyly (for some reason, to me your name is x-rated).
Are you familiar with oxymorons?
Here's one for you: Religious truth.
Get it?
LMPCPAO!!!
Ok, my name is Luciana, one day, as I was visiting my sis in law, I was singing a ditty (as I'm known to do) about my love of juice to my lil' nieces, when suddenly, my beloved and then 3yr old niece, started chanting 'juicylulu, juicylulu...' and it stuck forevermore...I use it, modified, for my email address too...I am no longer Aunty Lulu...sigh...
I am indeed familiar with oxymorons and you are very witty and amusing, I thank God for your existence every time I am reminded of it.
Oh, and you've caused me to blush.
Peace and love and cotton candy <3

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#433293 Jan 6, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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This post probably needs a bit of clarification. I have never seen the term "pseudepigrapha" ever applied to the gospels. Perhaps it has been. But to me there is a distinction between an author who pretends to be someone else and a text that was not intending to deceive the reader about authorship but later was ascribed by others to another person to grant that text authority it might not otherwise garner.
The only texts in the NT that clearly are properly ascribed to the rightful author are the genuine letters of Paul. Others, such as Luke/Acts maybe properly ascribed, but not certainly so.
You are correct.
The gospels were not written to pretend they were by anyone. The titles were applied much later.

Pseudepigrapha is an academic word that simply means "blatant forgery".

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#433294 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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You are correct.
The gospels were not written to pretend they were by anyone. The titles were applied much later.
Pseudepigrapha is an academic word that simply means "blatant forgery".
Thank you, G.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#433295 Jan 6, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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LMPCPAO!!!
Ok, my name is Luciana, one day, as I was visiting my sis in law, I was singing a ditty (as I'm known to do) about my love of juice to my lil' nieces, when suddenly, my beloved and then 3yr old niece, started chanting 'juicylulu, juicylulu...' and it stuck forevermore...I use it, modified, for my email address too...I am no longer Aunty Lulu...sigh...
I am indeed familiar with oxymorons and you are very witty and amusing, I thank God for your existence every time I am reminded of it.
Oh, and you've caused me to blush.
Peace and love and cotton candy <3
Thank you, juicylulu.

That was a very nice, thoughtful post.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#433296 Jan 6, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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This post probably needs a bit of clarification. I have never seen the term "pseudepigrapha" ever applied to the gospels. Perhaps it has been. But to me there is a distinction between an author who pretends to be someone else and a text that was not intending to deceive the reader about authorship but later was ascribed by others to another person to grant that text authority it might not otherwise garner.
The only texts in the NT that clearly are properly ascribed to the rightful author are the genuine letters of Paul. Others, such as Luke/Acts maybe properly ascribed, but not certainly so.
When Ehrman wrote "Forged", he said in the book that he would follow up with a scholarly edition that would go into greater detail with citations.

It came out in November, although I haven't read the book.

Forgery and Counterforgery: The Use of Literary Deceit in Early Christian Polemics
http://www.bartdehrman.com/books/forgery_coun...
Black Hebrew

Holly Springs, NC

#433297 Jan 6, 2013
You are the Devil, into the fire you will go!

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#433298 Jan 6, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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When Ehrman wrote "Forged", he said in the book that he would follow up with a scholarly edition that would go into greater detail with citations.
It came out in November, although I haven't read the book.
Forgery and Counterforgery: The Use of Literary Deceit in Early Christian Polemics
http://www.bartdehrman.com/books/forgery_coun...
Thanks. I just ordered the electronic edition. I'll give it a look-see on the bus tomorrow.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

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#433299 Jan 6, 2013
Black Hebrew wrote:
You are the Devil, into the fire you will go!
LOL *snort*
Black Hebrew

Holly Springs, NC

#433300 Jan 6, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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LOL *snort*
Into slavery your descendants go!

Shalom

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

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#433301 Jan 6, 2013
Black Hebrew wrote:
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Into slavery your descendants go!
Shalom
Empty threats from someone who doesn't even understand the history of their own religions don't scare me silly.

They just make you seem desperate.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#433302 Jan 6, 2013
Black Hebrew wrote:
You are the Devil, into the fire you will go!
Your evil god isn't here. Please try another thread.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#433303 Jan 6, 2013
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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When Ehrman wrote "Forged", he said in the book that he would follow up with a scholarly edition that would go into greater detail with citations.
It came out in November, although I haven't read the book.
Forgery and Counterforgery: The Use of Literary Deceit in Early Christian Polemics
http://www.bartdehrman.com/books/forgery_coun...
I see he dedicates it to Metzger, his mentor at Princeton, in memoriam.

Nice touch.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#433304 Jan 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Thank you, juicylulu.
That was a very nice, thoughtful post.
You are very welcome :D
I should have added that I'm no longer Aunty Lucy either...sigh...I have 19 nieces and nephews plus 2 step daughters, everyone of them that can talk now call me juicylu or juicylulu or juicylucy...kids!
Peace and love and baseball gloves <3

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