Why I’m no longer a Christian

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#432060 Jan 2, 2013
G. Angels and demons are messengers, guardian spirits, malevolent spirits etc...not Deities or gods or God, not divine or immortal or to be worshipped.

In ancient Greece a Daimon, as they were called, was considered neither good nor evil. These were considered to be "guardian spirits" and everyone had one. Demons were not labeled evil until dualistic religions came into being and all spiritual beings were labeled either good or evil. This was when demons gained the reputation of trying to keep man from having a bond with god.

Different cultures view spiritual matters and even spiritual beings differently. What may be a god in one culture, another may view as a devil. Angels, demons, djinn, devas, and fay are all basically the same but are rooted in varying cultures and traditions.

In Pythagoreanism angels and demons are reputed to dwell in the air, in between gods and men. This is why demons, as well as angels, are usually depicted with wings.

A demon is the same as an angel usually. The word angel is translated from the word Malakh, which comes from the Greek "angelos". The Malakh is the dark side of god. This is the side which faces and interacts with humans. Since it is turned away from divinity, it eventually became associated with evil.

There are differences between angels and true demons. The main difference lies in the fact that a demon is usually a being that holds power or influence over the negative side of divinity and life.

Demons are also guides to the transformational process which lies in the underworld and death. Demons are represented as "Fallen Angels". A demon is actually a mediator of darkness, a "Dark Angel" in essence. These angels did not "fall" as is popularly believed. They "descended" to become the Keepers of the mysteries of the underworld.

The term "dark angel" is not limited to the fallen angels known as demons. There are other types of dark angels. These are the ones that do not reside in the underworld, but are possessed of dual natures, nonetheless. The dark side of these angels carry destructiuon. This is the negative side of the spiritual. The spiritual world, as well as the physical world, must have positive and negative in order to operate correctly.

The angels are also said to carry the swords of punishment. They are also keepers of the legends and secrets.

http://tribes.tribe.net/b9b544af-89e5-4aa7-8d...

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#432061 Jan 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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No it is not.
I will respect your person-just not your choices.
Fair enough.
Happy New Year!!!
<3

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#432062 Jan 2, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Fair enough.
Happy New Year!!!
<3
AYE!
You too sis!
Make it a good one!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#432063 Jan 2, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
G. Angels and demons are messengers, guardian spirits, malevolent spirits etc...not Deities or gods or God, not divine or immortal or to be worshipped.
In ancient Greece a Daimon, as they were called, was considered neither good nor evil. These were considered to be "guardian spirits" and everyone had one. Demons were not labeled evil until dualistic religions came into being and all spiritual beings were labeled either good or evil. This was when demons gained the reputation of trying to keep man from having a bond with god.
Different cultures view spiritual matters and even spiritual beings differently. What may be a god in one culture, another may view as a devil. Angels, demons, djinn, devas, and fay are all basically the same but are rooted in varying cultures and traditions.
In Pythagoreanism angels and demons are reputed to dwell in the air, in between gods and men. This is why demons, as well as angels, are usually depicted with wings.
A demon is the same as an angel usually. The word angel is translated from the word Malakh, which comes from the Greek "angelos". The Malakh is the dark side of god. This is the side which faces and interacts with humans. Since it is turned away from divinity, it eventually became associated with evil.
There are differences between angels and true demons. The main difference lies in the fact that a demon is usually a being that holds power or influence over the negative side of divinity and life.
Demons are also guides to the transformational process which lies in the underworld and death. Demons are represented as "Fallen Angels". A demon is actually a mediator of darkness, a "Dark Angel" in essence. These angels did not "fall" as is popularly believed. They "descended" to become the Keepers of the mysteries of the underworld.
The term "dark angel" is not limited to the fallen angels known as demons. There are other types of dark angels. These are the ones that do not reside in the underworld, but are possessed of dual natures, nonetheless. The dark side of these angels carry destructiuon. This is the negative side of the spiritual. The spiritual world, as well as the physical world, must have positive and negative in order to operate correctly.
The angels are also said to carry the swords of punishment. They are also keepers of the legends and secrets.
http://tribes.tribe.net/b9b544af-89e5-4aa7-8d...
That should prove to you that religions and their organizations simply coin regurgitated beliefs and myths to suit their own purpose and agenda.

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#432064 Jan 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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That should prove to you that religions and their organizations simply coin regurgitated beliefs and myths to suit their own purpose and agenda.
I don't think so.
Believe what you like luv, but angels and demons are messengers, guardian spirits, malevolent spirits etc....
Not gods, divine, immortal, God.
Hermes = god Mars = Herme's messenger
God Angels = God's servants
Fallen angels = demons = malevolent spirits.
Cupid = messenger angel
Pagans and Christians actually agree on this, which is why I've provided links for both.
It's all there for anyone to read, Angels and demons were around way before Christianity. I've always been fascinated with them.
People in history have been "tricked " into worshipping demons but that still don't make them God or gods, they're just lying lower caste malevolent spirits, like statan.
Peace <3

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#432065 Jan 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Well, for all intent, it is. That depending on the sovereign state, and the laws passed in it's behalf(according to that's states law).
It is not unusual for individuals to have higher or lower standards in it's presence...so long as the individual does not break any "law" in it's regard.
Law does not dictate morality.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#432066 Jan 2, 2013
DearthOfCouth wrote:
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Did I miss something?
I don't think I said that.
You said
DearthOfCouth wrote:
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You have concluded, I take it, that the most virtuous and admirable demographic of all is --

Yours.

Somehow I'm not surprised.
Which leaves me to conclude that "virtuous and admirable" could be the morals for the demographic in which you mentioned. If that demographic has it's own set of "morals" then doesn't that mean that other demographics also have their own seperate sets of morals as well?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#432067 Jan 2, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Law does not dictate morality.
Which is exactly what I stated in so many words.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#432068 Jan 2, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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I don't think so.
Believe what you like luv, but angels and demons are messengers, guardian spirits, malevolent spirits etc....
Not gods, divine, immortal, God.
Hermes = god Mars = Herme's messenger
God Angels = God's servants
Fallen angels = demons = malevolent spirits.
Cupid = messenger angel
Pagans and Christians actually agree on this, which is why I've provided links for both.
It's all there for anyone to read, Angels and demons were around way before Christianity. I've always been fascinated with them.
People in history have been "tricked " into worshipping demons but that still don't make them God or gods, they're just lying lower caste malevolent spirits, like statan.
Peace <3
Well, you jist conjure me one up and send it over here...I'll take care of the rest. OK?

Just Results

“Jesus is Love”

Since: Jul 12

Hutchinson, MN

#432069 Jan 2, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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No. I have not noticed that.
But I have noticed that ignorant or angry people quickly expose themselves regardless of their beliefs.
Just like you.
Awww. Are you mad because I keep exposing your love for wickedness?

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#432070 Jan 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Well, you jist conjure me one up and send it over here...I'll take care of the rest. OK?
Lol...I don't do that..........

Just Results

“Jesus is Love”

Since: Jul 12

Hutchinson, MN

#432071 Jan 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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According to your 66 books, your deity leaves a LOT to be desired in the realm of deity and worship.---I'll pass on that one.
Still full of pride and arrogance, I see. No wonder you're going to Hell.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#432072 Jan 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> That's not the half of it.
We are talking about the [supreme] deity here...no defects or flaws...I can NOT regard this deity (crister) as the [perfect] deity by it's own book's descriptive passages...in fact, it proves exactly the opposite.
In fact, I hold my own actions and behavior above the deity portrayed in the book.
How could one possibly even accept-let alone worship such an atrocious entity? I can not-and will not.
Agreed. The Top Deity in Christianity is neither powerful nor good based on their own Bible.

Thus by "some definitions" is no more a diety than any other in their managerie of supernatural characters.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#432073 Jan 2, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Lol...I don't do that..........
Moses and Solomon did. Read the lesser keys of Solomon and the 6th & 7th books of Moses.

Things all wizards are familiar with...tells ya all about how ta conjure and control demons...and by god's chosen hand.

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

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#432074 Jan 2, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>You said<quoted text>
Which leaves me to conclude that "virtuous and admirable" could be the morals for the demographic in which you mentioned. If that demographic has it's own set of "morals" then doesn't that mean that other demographics also have their own seperate sets of morals as well?
I used the words "virtuous" and "admirable" in their common, colloquial sense only; meaning, praiseworthy. Worthy of emulation.

You seem to have some sort of transcendent meaning in mind, and you seem to be driving toward a point of some sort.

What might that be?

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#432076 Jan 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Moses and Solomon did. Read the lesser keys of Solomon and the 6th & 7th books of Moses.
Things all wizards are familiar with...tells ya all about how ta conjure and control demons...and by god's chosen hand.
Solomon was very naughty.
I know, lost interest in that stuff long ago. Spirits are liars and nothing but trouble.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#432077 Jan 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Agreed. The Top Deity in Christianity is neither powerful nor good based on their own Bible.
Thus by "some definitions" is no more a diety than any other in their managerie of supernatural characters.
UH OH!
Git ready fer the POOP throw'n!
LOL!
Don't worry none-I done cast a reflector/deflector spell ta keep it all go'n back from whence it comes. Jist be real careful walk'n through the remnants(they tend ta be pretty heavy sometimes)!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#432078 Jan 2, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Solomon was very naughty.
I know, lost interest in that stuff long ago. Spirits are liars and nothing but trouble.
Nah...god jist didn't like him mess'n with the pure Ethiopian descendants of Abraham, that's all. David had the same problem.

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#432079 Jan 2, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Solomon was very naughty.
I know, lost interest in that stuff long ago. Spirits are liars and nothing but trouble.
Depending on who you believe, they are just fragments of your subconscious mind.

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#432080 Jan 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Moses and Solomon did. Read the lesser keys of Solomon and the 6th & 7th books of Moses.
Things all wizards are familiar with...tells ya all about how ta conjure and control demons...and by god's chosen hand.
The Old Testament speaks of Solomon being very wise.. And his work with the goetia is still highly regarded among occultists, if I am not mistaken.

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