Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#430953 Dec 29, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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You're deluding yourself, Clownie.
I understand it just fine.
That's why I reject it.
If you understood it, you would to.
This is why your religion fosters ignorance.
I'm not downing your beliefs, but you truly don't understand the Bible then you must have read it with a closed mind.. It's not nice to criticize others beliefs if you don't understand the special grace they have received and you haven't..just saying... I'm sure you're a very nice person when not talking about others religion..

Since: Jul 08

Plymouth, MI

#430954 Dec 29, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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What is entertaining is how you yack talk ONLY because you are anonymous. You are a pathetic coward showing off your dishonesty.
Christians often get angry when their beliefs are challenged.

Maybe, instead of getting angry, you should get good.

Read a quality book about your myth.

Here's a simple one anyone can understand:

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Wrote-New-Testament...

Mack's not a great scholar in the league of Koester, Metzger, or Tabor. But he can make stuff simple enough that even fundies can understand it.

“The who whating how...”

Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#430955 Dec 29, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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You must be one dumbass atheist if you can't see the crimes that are exponentially climbing since the removal of God from schools.
Actually I'm a Non Denom Christian but I used to be an Atheist, my brother is an Atheist and I know quite a few others too. They are very rational, logical people and the majority are Law abiding. They don't believe in the afterlife so that usually makes them more appreciative of their one life, this appreciation leads them to make better thought out decisions in all aspects of life. Can you please list for me, all the Atheist killers of America and then a comparative list of religious killers, for the past 15 years please. If you are really a Christian I suggest you go and read the NT a little more closely and stop making the rest of us look like idiots. I will patiently await your list.

Since: Jul 08

Plymouth, MI

#430956 Dec 29, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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To you it was, only because it was a lie.
Well, I'd be pleased to discuss that claim with you, but I bet you can't back it up with fact, huh?

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#430957 Dec 29, 2012
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Good stuff.
And I may be biased. I always have agreed with Evan Powell's claim that there was a longer ending to Mark, that it was redacted, and that it ended up, in modified form, as the so-called "second ending" to John, John 21, a very late addition to that gospel.
But *that* surely is a minority position.
To me, the ending at v.8 fits perfectly with the story told by the author.

Since: Jul 08

Plymouth, MI

#430958 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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I'm not downing your beliefs, but you truly don't understand the Bible then you must have read it with a closed mind.. It's not nice to criticize others beliefs if you don't understand the special grace they have received and you haven't..just saying... I'm sure you're a very nice person when not talking about others religion..
Whadda hoot.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#430959 Dec 29, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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What is entertaining is how you yack talk ONLY because you are anonymous. You are a pathetic coward showing off your dishonesty.
I'm honored that you care enough to be entertained.

Feel free to project all your insecurities on to me.

It helps folks see the real you.

“The who whating how...”

Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#430960 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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I'm not downing your beliefs, but you truly don't understand the Bible then you must have read it with a closed mind.. It's not nice to criticize others beliefs if you don't understand the special grace they have received and you haven't..just saying... I'm sure you're a very nice person when not talking about others religion..
I agree with you but isn't that what you're doing right now? I like your profile pic, I've got that picture in my pc too and now want to use it, do you mind if I do?
God Bless <3

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#430961 Dec 29, 2012
Chess Jurist wrote:
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I can't believe the kids can't pray to Mithra anymore either.
It just ain't right, huh?
No way, they should be praying to the Elder Ones, lest Cthulhu is allowed to awaken.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#430962 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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I'm not downing your beliefs, but ..
I stopped reading there.

Since: Jul 08

Plymouth, MI

#430963 Dec 29, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I'm not getting into a childish slinging match again. If you think I'm a plagiarist and that I lied about it sue me, report me, whatever. I also did admit my error several times, after I read all the relevant information pertaining to your country. I also posted several links showing information on the topic. Including that to prove plagiarism you have to prove intent as well, good luck with it.
You're still playing games.

Since: Jul 08

Plymouth, MI

#430964 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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No way, they should be praying to the Elder Ones, lest Cthulhu is allowed to awaken.
Now I'm skeert.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#430965 Dec 29, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Thanks for the info NS4M...interesting point you've made here.
I started looking into this a year or so back when it was brought up on hereÖI am personally puzzled by the fact that he became mainstream published, but did not choose to publish his full findings amongst his peers. I mean if you honestly think that something is true/valid, why would you not make your *entire* study public to the folks that can actually pick apart your hypothesis?

Since: Jul 08

Plymouth, MI

#430966 Dec 29, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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To me, the ending at v.8 fits perfectly with the story told by the author.
And you're not the only one.

But my preference is for a redaction.

I believe the majority position is, coming at the end, the final pages were lost -- separated from the rest of the text. Last I checked, the minority view was the gospel was intended to end at 16:8.

I disagree with both positions and side with Powell. But I admit we are in the super-minority.

Since: Dec 12

London, UK

#430967 Dec 29, 2012
Hi, I was brought up in the church although not strictly - apart from attending sunday school. I lived my life and did my own thing until I was about 23 when I discovered 'religion' in my local Baptist church which was quite charismatic - as was the experience. I felt the 'calling' and spent 3 years studying theology and religious studies at the Bible Training Institute in Glasgow (BTI). I now have a Diploma for my troubles - or should I say struggles!

Talk about being railroaded down a path that had no tolerance for deviation if it did not include concepts like evangelism or pre-destination. Talk about being railroaded down a path that had no concept of choice or opinions outside of itself.

To my thinking being pre-destined cancelled out any need for being evangelistic. Why bother if it's been pre-destined? Oh and once saved always saved also annoyed me. God is supposed to change people from the inside out - something that was in VERY short supply so far as I could see. So your saved now, lets just go ahead and do what you like because your saved now.

Anyway long story short - no really! I gave up on religion a while ago and now I feel free to be who I am and not what the congregation expect me to be.

The bible says that the whole of creation is in sin and has to be renewed - even those who have been saved. Sin and sinning will be a fact of life for EVERYONE until the end. Ultimately we won't be completely free from it until things have been made new. So if the Holy Spirit is such an all powerfull catalyst for change - what happened?

Don't get me wrong - I do not think that this view is an excuse to go ahead and do what you like either verbally or emotionally to other people. But I do think that a lot more people should have made a lot more effort to be a lot more different than they started out - especially with the holy spirit being so dynamicaly life changing.

Conclusion: Religion is an opium for the masses. Rock on Freud.
Lost In Transition

Dade City, FL

#430968 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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I'm not downing your beliefs, but you truly don't understand the Bible then you must have read it with a closed mind.. It's not nice to criticize others beliefs if you don't understand the special grace they have received and you haven't..just saying...

I'm sure you're a very nice person when not talking about others religion..
Nah.
He sunk my battleship.

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#430969 Dec 29, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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I agree with you but isn't that what you're doing right now? I like your profile pic, I've got that picture in my pc too and now want to use it, do you mind if I do?
God Bless <3
Of course not....go right ahead.

And no, I really don't care if others believe or not.. I was stating that just maybe he was reading the bible to find something wrong instead of the good..

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#430970 Dec 29, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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I stopped reading there.
I stand corrected, you're NOT nice after all.. Oh well!!
Lost In Transition

Dade City, FL

#430971 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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I stand corrected, you're NOT nice after all.. Oh well!!
I told ya.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#430972 Dec 29, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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My pea soup is in it's first stage. Takes 2 re-heats before anyone is allowed to taste.
I'm almost afraid to ask you for this recipe of your's...
I have my Northern Beans soaking tonight for my leftover holiday ham. Nothing like snow and soup (other than crock-pot chili) ;O) I have not made pea soup as I am a kitchen wreckÖWater is trying to assist me with this issue. I think that it is a genetic flaw from my Mothers side, she has a few things that she bakes/cooks that no other can replicateÖ.but when it comes to day to day cooking, not so much. I would be much obliged if you would send a recipe my way. My new oven and I seem to like one another, so I am now stretching my wings.

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