Why I’m no longer a Christian

Since: Dec 12

Windsor, UK

#430967 Dec 29, 2012
Hi, I was brought up in the church although not strictly - apart from attending sunday school. I lived my life and did my own thing until I was about 23 when I discovered 'religion' in my local Baptist church which was quite charismatic - as was the experience. I felt the 'calling' and spent 3 years studying theology and religious studies at the Bible Training Institute in Glasgow (BTI). I now have a Diploma for my troubles - or should I say struggles!

Talk about being railroaded down a path that had no tolerance for deviation if it did not include concepts like evangelism or pre-destination. Talk about being railroaded down a path that had no concept of choice or opinions outside of itself.

To my thinking being pre-destined cancelled out any need for being evangelistic. Why bother if it's been pre-destined? Oh and once saved always saved also annoyed me. God is supposed to change people from the inside out - something that was in VERY short supply so far as I could see. So your saved now, lets just go ahead and do what you like because your saved now.

Anyway long story short - no really! I gave up on religion a while ago and now I feel free to be who I am and not what the congregation expect me to be.

The bible says that the whole of creation is in sin and has to be renewed - even those who have been saved. Sin and sinning will be a fact of life for EVERYONE until the end. Ultimately we won't be completely free from it until things have been made new. So if the Holy Spirit is such an all powerfull catalyst for change - what happened?

Don't get me wrong - I do not think that this view is an excuse to go ahead and do what you like either verbally or emotionally to other people. But I do think that a lot more people should have made a lot more effort to be a lot more different than they started out - especially with the holy spirit being so dynamicaly life changing.

Conclusion: Religion is an opium for the masses. Rock on Freud.
Lost In Transition

Ashburn, VA

#430968 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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I'm not downing your beliefs, but you truly don't understand the Bible then you must have read it with a closed mind.. It's not nice to criticize others beliefs if you don't understand the special grace they have received and you haven't..just saying...

I'm sure you're a very nice person when not talking about others religion..
Nah.
He sunk my battleship.

Since: Jul 08

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#430969 Dec 29, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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I agree with you but isn't that what you're doing right now? I like your profile pic, I've got that picture in my pc too and now want to use it, do you mind if I do?
God Bless <3
Of course not....go right ahead.

And no, I really don't care if others believe or not.. I was stating that just maybe he was reading the bible to find something wrong instead of the good..

Since: Jul 08

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#430970 Dec 29, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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I stopped reading there.
I stand corrected, you're NOT nice after all.. Oh well!!
Lost In Transition

Ashburn, VA

#430971 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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I stand corrected, you're NOT nice after all.. Oh well!!
I told ya.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#430972 Dec 29, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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My pea soup is in it's first stage. Takes 2 re-heats before anyone is allowed to taste.
I'm almost afraid to ask you for this recipe of your's...
I have my Northern Beans soaking tonight for my leftover holiday ham. Nothing like snow and soup (other than crock-pot chili) ;O) I have not made pea soup as I am a kitchen wreck…Water is trying to assist me with this issue. I think that it is a genetic flaw from my Mothers side, she has a few things that she bakes/cooks that no other can replicate….but when it comes to day to day cooking, not so much. I would be much obliged if you would send a recipe my way. My new oven and I seem to like one another, so I am now stretching my wings.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#430973 Dec 29, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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Are you saying that all Atheists are hateful killers?
Just Results wrote:
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If given enough time, yes. Once an atheist is fully indoctrinated, delusional, and evil like the ones you see on this forum, the hatred will eventually ooze out in the form of violence.
Is that why you said you wish I would die? Becaues the *atheists* are violent??
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text> Unfortunately the investigators and the media will never reveal this information of their dark findings about these villainous criminals.
The "investigators and media" are all covering it up? You are fucking crazy.
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text> ... The media is GROSSLY biased to letting the public know only of Christian crimes. I guess it is just assumed the other numerous crimes are by atheists, but they don't mention it in their news releases.
The media is very unfair and biased against Christianity.
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“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#430974 Dec 29, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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You're deluding yourself, Clownie.
I understand it just fine.
That's why I reject it.
If you understood it, you would to.
This is why your religion fosters ignorance.
If you understood it! you wouldn't reject it..

Since: Jul 08

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#430975 Dec 29, 2012
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Whadda hoot.
Oh, how you hurt me..

Since: Jul 12

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#430976 Dec 29, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Had you read very much of this thread, you would realize that our doubts were not about 'the churches'. Our doubts were about the Bible. Maybe you can start there if you truly want to understand why people leave Christianity. I don't think any of us blamed the churches, or God for our doubts. We saw incongruities in the churches we attended, but our main focus was on why we saw something in the Bible that other Christians didn't see, and why we didn't see what they saw in some instances. It was the unanswered questions that drove us to seek more knowledge. It didn't necessarily end up where we thought it would, prayed it would, or expected it would. We ended up not believing in mainline Christianity because of the Bible. It's really just that simple.
You have not been asked many things about your religion that you have posted. So if you were truly just being quiet until asked, you would have left long ago. I'm not buying into that either.
However, Christians are always welcome here. We see the worst side of Christianity with most of the Christians who come here and the very best side with a very few who come here.
And their words are here for the life of Topix.
Im sorry to ask something like this without goin back and reading every post to find my answer, but what exactly were those questions that were unanswered that drove you to seek more knowledge, Id really like to have something to base it on. I guess Im lazy. But very in the statement you made here.

Since: Dec 12

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#430977 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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Of course not....go right ahead.
And no, I really don't care if others believe or not.. I was stating that just maybe he was reading the bible to find something wrong instead of the good..
Yeah, some people do get caught up in the details and missing content of the Bible and miss the point, I did it myself once upon a time, but hey, each to their own right? Besides, you never know when the good might seep in, it did for me, now I just have to think about going to church at some point.....
Peace <3

Since: Jul 08

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#430978 Dec 29, 2012
Lost In Transition wrote:
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I told ya.
Oh my, did someone pee in his post toasties..

Since: Jul 08

Fenton, MI

#430979 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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Of course not....go right ahead.
And no, I really don't care if others believe or not.. I was stating that just maybe he was reading the bible to find something wrong instead of the good..
Oooo. I found something wrong.

Try Numbers 31.

Oh my. Bet no one mentioned that in church last Sunday, huh?

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#430980 Dec 29, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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I agree with you but isn't that what you're doing right now? I like your profile pic, I've got that picture in my pc too and now want to use it, do you mind if I do?
God Bless <3
Jesus wins I read the book

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#430981 Dec 29, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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There is no such thing as a 'Soul'.
Obviously not in your case. You've recently shown what a soulless bastard you are.

Since: Jul 08

Fenton, MI

#430982 Dec 29, 2012
XENA 54 wrote:
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Oh, how you hurt me..
Then you're easily hurt.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#430983 Dec 29, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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You're still deluding yourself, Clownie.
Your problem is your hypocrisy, not your following Jesus.
Because you don't follow Jesus.
You only claim to.
There is a sunday school near you!!! get in iy boy ya hear

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#430984 Dec 29, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Adam,its great to see you on this thread trying to help the poor dumb atheist... they are very stupid
You've driven almost as many people away from christianity as your buddy viking has. Be proud!

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#430985 Dec 29, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Does that explain the tornadoes in the Bible Belt on Christmas?
X you can't blame it on GOD, You don't believe in him.. who do you blame?

Since: Jul 08

Fenton, MI

#430986 Dec 29, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus wins I read the book
If Crossan is right, the dogs devoured his corpse after he was crucified.

That'd be kind of a Charlie Sheen winning moment by most standards.

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