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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#430804 Dec 29, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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You were never a Christian. You're too hateful and bigoted to be one.
Then you're not a christian either.

“Ungood doubleplus duckspeak.”

Since: Dec 12

Earth

#430805 Dec 29, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Then you're not a christian either.
You might have a point there...

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#430806 Dec 29, 2012
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, geneticist found a defective gene in some people called VMAT2 that predisposes those people towards religion. This gene just happens to also code for production of the neurotransmitters that regulate our moods. Two different versions of this gene exist, differing only at a single position. People with the defective version of the gene tend to score higher on self-transcendence tests.
Much like an alcoholic is attracted to alcohol, or someone who is a compulsive gambler is attracted to always taking a gamble, a person with the God gene is attracted to religion because it gives them a ďhighĒ when they are religious. When a person falls in love and they think about that special person, their brain creates chemicals which makes them feel happy. Likewise a person with the defective VMAT2 gene feels ďrewardedĒ when they are involved with something spiritual or religious. You could say they are addicted to religion, which explains a lot.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
NoStress4me wrote:
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So how many people have this gene, and what in your opinion makes it defective?
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>My guess is quite a lot of people in the middle east have the God gene. Genetic disorders can be inherited, and some genetic disorders develop spontaneously when disease causing mutations occur during cell division.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
NoStress4me wrote:
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What makes it a disorder?
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Being defective. I thought this was already covered.
In my opinion it was not covered. The problem I have with how you chose to word your postĎs, is that you state that the gene is defective and a disorder. Nothing I have read or heard about his hypothesis, has ever stated such. Here is part of one book review:

In The God Gene, Dr. Dean Hamer reveals that this inclination towards religious faith is in good measure due to our genes and may even offer an evolutionary advantage by helping us get through difficulties, reducing stress, preventing disease, and extending life.
Review found here:
http://www.randomhouse.com/book/74186/the-god...

I think that it is very important to note that Dr. Hamerís full hypothesis, has not been published amongst his peers.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#430807 Dec 29, 2012
NoStress4me wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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In my opinion it was not covered. The problem I have with how you chose to word your postĎs, is that you state that the gene is defective and a disorder. Nothing I have read or heard about his hypothesis, has ever stated such. Here is part of one book review:
In The God Gene, Dr. Dean Hamer reveals that this inclination towards religious faith is in good measure due to our genes and may even offer an evolutionary advantage by helping us get through difficulties, reducing stress, preventing disease, and extending life.
Review found here:
http://www.randomhouse.com/book/74186/the-god...
I think that it is very important to note that Dr. Hamerís full hypothesis, has not been published amongst his peers.
As you can see, there are extremists on each end of the spectrum.

Never listen to extremists, lest you become one.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#430808 Dec 29, 2012
NS, you have another recipe on t-mail. Your husband, children and anyone who eats this will beg for more.

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#430809 Dec 29, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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If given enough time, yes. Once an atheist is fully indoctrinated, delusional, and evil like the ones you see on this forum, the hatred will eventually ooze out in the form of violence. Unfortunately the investigators and the media will never reveal this information of their dark findings about these villainous criminals.
They usually only let us in on the rare occasional Christian that makes a mistake in shooting someone. The media is GROSSLY biased to letting the public know only of Christian crimes. I guess it is just assumed the other numerous crimes are by atheists, but they don't mention it in their news releases.
The media is very unfair and biased against Christianity.
Interesting theory. Who conducts this "indoctrination" of us atheists? Where is it held and how often? And whom is it, in particular, that we "hate?"

And whose media is it that's unfairly biased against Christianity? The USA's? Europe's? The whole world's?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#430810 Dec 29, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
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Interesting theory. Who conducts this "indoctrination" of us atheists? Where is it held and how often? And whom is it, in particular, that we "hate?"
And whose media is it that's unfairly biased against Christianity? The USA's? Europe's? The whole world's?
Good morning, DoC. I think you can see by his posts who is biased, indoctrinated, and filled with hatred for other human beings. No questions need be asked.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#430812 Dec 29, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> As you can see, there are extremists on each end of the spectrum.
Never listen to extremists, lest you become one.
Agreed.
water_nymph wrote:
NS, you have another recipe on t-mail. Your husband, children and anyone who eats this will beg for more.
WOW!! I love how they set up the instructions, and the name of he recipe! I will definitely be making these, and I will start my diet today to prepare for all the calories ;O)

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#430813 Dec 29, 2012
NoStress4me wrote:
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Agreed.
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WOW!! I love how they set up the instructions, and the name of he recipe! I will definitely be making these, and I will start my diet today to prepare for all the calories ;O)
There is no preparation that will get you to a point of being able to eat only one of these. The only thing you can do is diet AFTER. That is, if you can resist the urge to make another batch.
Silent Majority

Glasgow, KY

#430814 Dec 29, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
Why Iím no longer a Christian, Part Four
Finally, struggling with my private predicament in that pew during prayer service, I knew what it was that I had to do. I came to the realization that there was only one possible course of action that seemed to offer me any degree of self-respect, and there was no other course to take, so at long last I took it. I stood and walked out.
I did not look anyone in the eye as I passed and I have no idea whether anyone registered surprise, hostility, concern, or anything at all. For all I know they all faced forward and ignored me as I turned left at the end of the aisle and made my final exit from the building. The moment I reached the open air outside I was astonished to find that I was finally, after all this time, experiencing something that was vivid and genuine and undeniable. In fact it was nearly overpowering. It crested over me like a breaker:
Relief.
From now on, I resolved that day, I will not stop and examine my innermost thoughts and evaluate, whether they are appropriately reverent and sanctimonious. I will admit my doubts and reservations and when people ask me for my thoughts I will express them respectfully but openly, as I am doing now.
If everyone around me seems confident and secure where I am irresolute and sceptical then I decline to acknowledge this as a problem, for me or for anyone else. Thatís just the way it is.
Leaving the prayer meeting that day was a liberating, exhilarating, and truly life-changing experience for me. It was my ďbaptismĒ and I will never forget it.
Iím free.
If I have to account someday for the decisions Iíve made and the actions Iíve taken, then I will. But I wonít again lie to anyone that Iím feeling something or sensing something when Iím not. I wonít try to deceive anyone around me but most importantly I wonít lie to myself. Life is too short to waste it that way.
So it's been a few years now since you posted this.
Tell me what you believe now? Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?
And did you ever study other doctrines looking for the truth?

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#430815 Dec 29, 2012
NoStress4me wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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In my opinion it was not covered. The problem I have with how you chose to word your postĎs, is that you state that the gene is defective and a disorder. Nothing I have read or heard about his hypothesis, has ever stated such. Here is part of one book review:
In The God Gene, Dr. Dean Hamer reveals that this inclination towards religious faith is in good measure due to our genes and may even offer an evolutionary advantage by helping us get through difficulties, reducing stress, preventing disease, and extending life.
Review found here:
http://www.randomhouse.com/book/74186/the-god...
I think that it is very important to note that Dr. Hamerís full hypothesis, has not been published amongst his peers.
Thanks for the info NS4M...interesting point you've made here.
Lost In Transition

Andalusia, AL

#430816 Dec 29, 2012
NoStress4me wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSHQAVD...
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In my opinion it was not covered. The problem I have with how you chose to word your postĎs, is that you state that the gene is defective and a disorder. Nothing I have read or heard about his hypothesis, has ever stated such. Here is part of one book review:
In The God Gene, Dr. Dean Hamer reveals that this inclination towards religious faith is in good measure due to our genes and may even offer an evolutionary advantage by helping us get through difficulties, reducing stress, preventing disease, and extending life.
Review found here:
http://www.randomhouse.com/book/74186/the-god...
I think that it is very important to note that Dr. Hamerís full hypothesis, has not been published amongst his peers.
In an interview with Public Radio, Hamer also claimed that his testing showed an inclination towards transcendence and spirituality, and NOT towards a belief in a god per se. He emphasized the importance of seperating spirituality from religion. He also claimed that in testing for spirituality, members of the clergy (various religions) had consistantly scored quite low.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#430817 Dec 29, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> As you can see, there are extremists on each end of the spectrum.
Never listen to extremists, lest you become one.
Yepper...^5 W_N.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#430818 Dec 29, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
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Interesting theory. Who conducts this "indoctrination" of us atheists? Where is it held and how often? And whom is it, in particular, that we "hate?"
And whose media is it that's unfairly biased against Christianity? The USA's? Europe's? The whole world's?
Great questions DoC...

Since: Dec 12

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#430819 Dec 29, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Ex-Catholics seem to me to have a much deeper way of looking at things.
It's called growing a spine.

Since: Dec 12

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#430820 Dec 29, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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The media is very unfair and biased against Christianity.
Can you say faux news?

Since: Dec 12

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#430821 Dec 29, 2012
NoStress4me wrote:
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Here is part of one book review
More of a synopsis than a review by the company that sells the book.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#430822 Dec 29, 2012
Lost In Transition wrote:
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In an interview with Public Radio, Hamer also claimed that his testing showed an inclination towards transcendence and spirituality, and NOT towards a belief in a god per se. He emphasized the importance of seperating spirituality from religion. He also claimed that in testing for spirituality, members of the clergy (various religions) had consistantly scored quite low.
He also gave quite a good lecture at Marlboro college on not only why some people are gay, but why some people are straight.

You can see part of it here:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search...

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#430823 Dec 29, 2012
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Can you say faux news?
It's not limited to Fox News. It is spread in every extremist church that everyone is trying to persecute you because you're a believer. This teaches people not to be responsible for their actions, thoughts or words. Someone else is always to blame, never the Christian...no matter what they do.

To be taught that there is no responsibility here on earth is to be taught that no matter what you do, you're forgiven. Therefore, there is no thought of ones actions against another human being.

I'd like to once again say if all preachers said the things Spong says, we'd be a mentally healthier nation.

Since: Dec 12

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#430824 Dec 29, 2012
NoStress4me wrote:
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The problem I have with how you chose to word your postĎs, is that you state that the gene is defective and a disorder. Nothing I have read or heard about his hypothesis, has ever stated such.
Sorry, I misunderstood what you were getting at. The original Time magazine article covered this. I have a link for it but unfortunately they have changed their site so now you have to pay to access it. I do however document all of my research and I have screenshots of the article. It will take some time but I will find what you are looking for and post it for you. Hope that helps.

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