Why I’m no longer a Christian

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426797 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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Did you know that they still sell them? They are a little different than the ones we had but same principle.
https://www.lehmans.com/p-1111-pant-stretcher...
Hard to forget the freezing...they would stick to your hands and rip the skin off!
Okay...that reminded me "The Christmas Story" when the little boy stuck his tongue on the flag pole...LOL
Those are different than the ones my mom used. the hanger was at the top of the pants and there wasn't much separation between the legs. I'm gonna look and see if I can find a picture of the old fashioned ones.

I personally can't believe that people still use those things.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426799 Dec 14, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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When you get honest let me know.
You just can't stand being proven wrong.
The "candling" episode shows that you and Annie are both full of shit trying to be little me.
The candling discussion shows that there are more reasons for candling eggs than just your Googled version and nothing more. Also, it shows there are different ways to do it.

How do you think people candled eggs before all this equipment was invented, G? How do you think country people candle eggs to this very day in some rural areas?

Looking something up on google means nothing if you have had the life experience. Truly you have not. But you had to try to prove me and Annie both wrong in order for your Googled version to be right. You didn't speak from experience, but from knowledge gleaned from Google.

It is you who can't stand to be wrong. You were mad with Annie and you therefore trashed her thoroughly over the lesson she learned as a young child. Why you felt it necessary to do so is beyond me.

This is the end of this conversation for me. I have said everything I feel the need to say.

I expect you to keep it up for your ego's sake. I'll comment on your other posts as I see fit, but this subject is dead and over for me. That's not an admission of not knowing what I was talking about, just in case your ego wants to think it is. It's just that I am tired of your bloated ego and obsession with being right to the point that you will trash the few friends you had gained here to prove yourself so.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426802 Dec 14, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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When you get honest let me know.
You just can't stand being proven wrong.
The "candling" episode shows that you and Annie are both full of shit trying to be little me.
LOL

So...

...you think...

I was sitting here the other day and decided...what kind of story could I make up that will belittle "G" and his intellect along with his 3 degrees. I would come up with one idea and begin the story plot...then would not be able to make it belittling enough...discard it and go back to thinking.

I was getting pretty frustrated...I am good at telling stories on life but just seemed to have a difficult time coming up with just the right story...with enough punch.

Then low and behold...out of no where came..."the egg". Now how could I make an egg be belittling. Once again...a flicker...a glimmer...I could include a candle...now that will really belittle "G"...his intellect...and those 3 degrees.

Soon however I came to realize that I needed more...I thought and I thought...what would give this belittling story that finishing touch. Then I knew...a little old lady named "Ms. Birdie". I had all my components...all of my weaponry to use against "G". So I preceeded to put it all together.

A little old lady named "Ms. Birdie"
She raised chickens
The chickens laid eggs
Ms. Birdie sold the eggs for money
Since she sold them they had to be candled

Thus the plot was hatched...but it lacked one thing...me in the story.

So I pretended that once I was a child
I lived down the hill from Ms. Birdie
I would go to visit and help her candle eggs

Yet there needed to be more...that last push of "G" into the abyss. Then I had the perfect ending...

She could teach me a life lesson...I knew that would do it...a life lesson that was not taught in a book...a lesson that just came from an uneducated old woman named "Ms. Birdie".

Thus hatched the "Ms. Birdie and the Egg Candling" story.

I know...I know...I could have just posted the "Ugly Duckling" but I didn't want to plagiarize.

Obviously my plot worked..."G" has been over the edge ever since I posted my story.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426803 Dec 14, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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So I am respsonsible for your attacks and lies ?
You wouldn't know honest and open if it bit you.
GFY
What attacks? My opinion of your behavior is not an 'attack'. That's a fundie view of things. Everyone who disagrees with a fundie is 'attacking' them.

Maybe you should look at your lack of honesty before talking to them about your perceived vision of their opinions.

By the way, I didn't 'lie' about your parents. I said,'they may not have', not that they didn't. But you rewrite it to be an attack to satisfy your persecution complex and have a reason to remain angry.

Do whatever it takes to keep your anger in tact instead of trying to have a normal conversation without mentioning how stupid others are and how brilliant you are.

Like I said, I could care less about how many diplomas and degrees you have. I'm not here to hear that 20 times a day. At one time you were able to discuss things without the behavior you have recently shown.

You asked where you had ever claimed to believe in a deity, yet you have said that you think Jesus was the sacrifice mentioned in Leviticus. If you didn't believe in the God of Abraham, you couldn't believe that Jesus was a sacrifice to/for him. No one here is as stupid as you think. You are not as brilliant as you think. I have people in my own family who have multiple degrees but don't go around calling others stupid for disagreeing with them. Inn fact, they are quite capable of discussing things and looking at others opinions and actually learning something from them. You are not that type of intellectual, G. You already know it all so you can't possibly learn anything else.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426804 Dec 14, 2012
T-Towns Smarter Brother wrote:
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Friggin' idiot. If you say stupid shit, people will call you on it. What, you think they aren't supposed to?
Your phony jesus blows donkeys.
Matthew 5:11-12

New International Version (NIV)


11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

thanks

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426805 Dec 14, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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1. disprove Odin exists
2. disprove Odin is not the Father of the Gods
3. disprove The Elder Edda is not the holy word of God
4. disprove the Norse interpretation
5. disprove the Teutonic beliefs
peeps don't like you G... you're turd of the thread... fact

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426806 Dec 14, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Would that be the Literalist/Fundamentalist cults which began 100 years ago or the Born Again cults begun in the 1960's ?
YAWN

“GO CARDS!!!!!”

Since: May 08

Russell Springs

#426807 Dec 14, 2012
mztza wrote:
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out of curiosity and respect
why would anyone give honor to satan who is trying to destroy us and the world by calling themselves satans daughter?
Im not giving honor to the biblical satan, my "earthly" father has been called satan by my mother since i can remember. She is the one who gave me the name out of hatred for him.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#426809 Dec 14, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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The christian sect, the largest, worst and most vicious which gave us the Crusades, the Inquisition, Salem, Sand Creek, Wounded Knee, Adolph Hitler & Nazism, Dachau, Auschwitz, Treblinka, Bergen-Belsen, HUAC, the Moral Majority, Operation: Rescue, Paul Hill, John Salvi, David Koresh, Tim McVeigh...
You could add in Jim Jones, ALL the known and unknown child molesting priests over the years, all the Harold Camping types that have ruined lives.
There's more to add I'm sure.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426810 Dec 14, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
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peeps don't like you G... you're turd of the thread... fact
This "peep" and I am fairly sure that WN has never said that we don't like "G". Actually it is quite the opposite regardless of what "G" might think.

I can appreciate "G"s knowledge but not the abusive way that he delivers it. It is the verbal abuse that I oppose...not "G" himself. He doesn't get that and obviously you don't either.

I don't dislike you "T"...just the way that you come on here preaching for others to get saved and yet you persist in acting every which way but "saved".

I will say this..."G" can at least respond to a post in his own words rather I agree with them or not. You just have nonsensical one-liners and a few passages of c/p scripture that you don't seem to follow.

There might be some here that dislike "G"...despite his recent verbal abuse directed toward me...I am not one of those "peeps".

Actually...I find it a bit childish to dislike anyone on an anonymous opinion thread...maybe their opinions and their presentations but really??? Who would waste their time with hatred in a place such as this.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426812 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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This "peep" and I am fairly sure that WN has never said that we don't like "G". Actually it is quite the opposite regardless of what "G" might think.
I can appreciate "G"s knowledge but not the abusive way that he delivers it. It is the verbal abuse that I oppose...not "G" himself. He doesn't get that and obviously you don't either.
I don't dislike you "T"...just the way that you come on here preaching for others to get saved and yet you persist in acting every which way but "saved".
I will say this..."G" can at least respond to a post in his own words rather I agree with them or not. You just have nonsensical one-liners and a few passages of c/p scripture that you don't seem to follow.
There might be some here that dislike "G"...despite his recent verbal abuse directed toward me...I am not one of those "peeps".
Actually...I find it a bit childish to dislike anyone on an anonymous opinion thread...maybe their opinions and their presentations but really??? Who would waste their time with hatred in a place such as this.
stop whining
Yes

Aldrich, MO

#426813 Dec 14, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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You could add in Jim Jones, ALL the known and unknown child molesting priests over the years, all the Harold Camping types that have ruined lives.
There's more to add I'm sure.
Hey totally ignorant one! Most of the names on that list and yours were not even "Christian" to begin with but just more of the ungodly pretending to be. Wake up and learn the truth at least!

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426815 Dec 14, 2012
Mark 16:14-16

New International Version (NIV)


14 Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.

15 He said to them,“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

GET SAVED!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#426816 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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What is that collective plan Wasup? I didn't get the memo.
I have nothing against Jews or Christians...just the way that some of them behave...
"...just the way that some of them behave"

i'll tell you what - you take care of the satanic business in your back yard and Christians will continue to grow in Christ and take care of their business. how's that sound?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#426817 Dec 14, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
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Interesting. So it would seem not every evolution is necessarily an advantage. I know we discussed what it meant by smaller brains and you while the article thought it meant a more efficient brain you felt there may be signs that show we are actually getting less intelligent.
Let me ask a somewhat related question because i am always told abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution and to me that seems not to be the case. Yes i can understand someone being able to study evolution without knowing every change or from start to present but at the same time it seems irrevocably linked because if whatever life started as couldn't have evolved into what it is now or without knowing what it was, that leaves all sorts of questions as to our origins.
So I guess ihave two questions
1) What is the furthest back we can trace man's evolution?
Evolution is contingent upon abiogenesis and nothing more. Once you have replicators, you have evolution and abiogenesis is no longer happening (making abiogenesis theory of only academic and astronomical interest).

1. how specific do you require the answer? If not specific, then to the origin of vertebrates. Before that, it's a bit fuzzy. Our theory tells us we share a common history with all multicellular life, then all eukaryotes. Before that, it would have to condense to a single-celled lifeform, then to replicators. If we go in the other direction, from replicators, there might have been many failed lines that left no fossil record, making it impossible for us to determine exactly how life progressed.

If you want to be very, very specific, humans can trace their ancestry through all hominin, to the LCA (last common ancestor) with Pan, then Gorilla, then Pongo, then Hylobates, then Old World Monkeys, then all monkeys (adding in New World Monkeys), then Prosimians (now called Strepsirrhini), then Plesiadapiformes, then it gets a bit fuzzy (at least for me; experts in paleoprimatology probably have a better idea). The previous step would be tree shrews, which have shared ancestors with bats and it continues to more ancestors.

This is a very in-depth map that you probably won't understand:

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/3/59...

Here's a more understandable one, but not as complex:

http://www.google.com/imgres...

And another, with pictures!

http://www.google.com/imgres...
2) What do you personally think man evolved from, if you could go from the beginning without evidence? Do you feel it has been one single species evolving or perhaps was an off-shoot of another species?
The very beginning? Replicators. Organic molecules that, for reasons I don't understand, started replicating by using ambient molecules for energy. They underwent rapid evolution becoming single celled organisms and eventually, after a very long while, multicellular organisms.

The moment you have two different replicator populations, you have divergent species. From that point on, it was no longer a single species. Some combined (hence mitochondria w/in cells; chloroplasts w/in plant cells), most did not.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426818 Dec 14, 2012
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.(Romans 5:6-10)

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.(Romans 6:23)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.(Ephesians 2:8-9)

GET SAVED

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#426819 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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What is that collective plan Wasup? I didn't get the memo.
I have nothing against Jews or Christians...just the way that some of them behave...
oh....the 'collective plan' is world unity through world socialism under a socialist world redeemer. hitler was the latest in the long line of your failed socialist redeemers.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#426820 Dec 14, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
Mark 16:14-16
New International Version (NIV)
14 Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
15 He said to them,“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
GET SAVED!
You're a clown, Clown.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426821 Dec 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"...just the way that some of them behave"
i'll tell you what - you take care of the satanic business in your back yard and Christians will continue to grow in Christ and take care of their business. how's that sound?
You still did not explain what that "collective plan" is Wasup.

Nor have you ever explained what rights that liberals have vs Christians and Jews.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426822 Dec 14, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>stop whining
Start acting "SAVED"...or at least learn what it means.

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