Why I’m no longer a Christian

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426812 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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This "peep" and I am fairly sure that WN has never said that we don't like "G". Actually it is quite the opposite regardless of what "G" might think.
I can appreciate "G"s knowledge but not the abusive way that he delivers it. It is the verbal abuse that I oppose...not "G" himself. He doesn't get that and obviously you don't either.
I don't dislike you "T"...just the way that you come on here preaching for others to get saved and yet you persist in acting every which way but "saved".
I will say this..."G" can at least respond to a post in his own words rather I agree with them or not. You just have nonsensical one-liners and a few passages of c/p scripture that you don't seem to follow.
There might be some here that dislike "G"...despite his recent verbal abuse directed toward me...I am not one of those "peeps".
Actually...I find it a bit childish to dislike anyone on an anonymous opinion thread...maybe their opinions and their presentations but really??? Who would waste their time with hatred in a place such as this.
stop whining
Yes

Ava, MO

#426813 Dec 14, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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You could add in Jim Jones, ALL the known and unknown child molesting priests over the years, all the Harold Camping types that have ruined lives.
There's more to add I'm sure.
Hey totally ignorant one! Most of the names on that list and yours were not even "Christian" to begin with but just more of the ungodly pretending to be. Wake up and learn the truth at least!

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426815 Dec 14, 2012
Mark 16:14-16

New International Version (NIV)


14 Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.

15 He said to them,“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

GET SAVED!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#426816 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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What is that collective plan Wasup? I didn't get the memo.
I have nothing against Jews or Christians...just the way that some of them behave...
"...just the way that some of them behave"

i'll tell you what - you take care of the satanic business in your back yard and Christians will continue to grow in Christ and take care of their business. how's that sound?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#426817 Dec 14, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
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Interesting. So it would seem not every evolution is necessarily an advantage. I know we discussed what it meant by smaller brains and you while the article thought it meant a more efficient brain you felt there may be signs that show we are actually getting less intelligent.
Let me ask a somewhat related question because i am always told abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution and to me that seems not to be the case. Yes i can understand someone being able to study evolution without knowing every change or from start to present but at the same time it seems irrevocably linked because if whatever life started as couldn't have evolved into what it is now or without knowing what it was, that leaves all sorts of questions as to our origins.
So I guess ihave two questions
1) What is the furthest back we can trace man's evolution?
Evolution is contingent upon abiogenesis and nothing more. Once you have replicators, you have evolution and abiogenesis is no longer happening (making abiogenesis theory of only academic and astronomical interest).

1. how specific do you require the answer? If not specific, then to the origin of vertebrates. Before that, it's a bit fuzzy. Our theory tells us we share a common history with all multicellular life, then all eukaryotes. Before that, it would have to condense to a single-celled lifeform, then to replicators. If we go in the other direction, from replicators, there might have been many failed lines that left no fossil record, making it impossible for us to determine exactly how life progressed.

If you want to be very, very specific, humans can trace their ancestry through all hominin, to the LCA (last common ancestor) with Pan, then Gorilla, then Pongo, then Hylobates, then Old World Monkeys, then all monkeys (adding in New World Monkeys), then Prosimians (now called Strepsirrhini), then Plesiadapiformes, then it gets a bit fuzzy (at least for me; experts in paleoprimatology probably have a better idea). The previous step would be tree shrews, which have shared ancestors with bats and it continues to more ancestors.

This is a very in-depth map that you probably won't understand:

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/3/59...

Here's a more understandable one, but not as complex:

http://www.google.com/imgres...

And another, with pictures!

http://www.google.com/imgres...
2) What do you personally think man evolved from, if you could go from the beginning without evidence? Do you feel it has been one single species evolving or perhaps was an off-shoot of another species?
The very beginning? Replicators. Organic molecules that, for reasons I don't understand, started replicating by using ambient molecules for energy. They underwent rapid evolution becoming single celled organisms and eventually, after a very long while, multicellular organisms.

The moment you have two different replicator populations, you have divergent species. From that point on, it was no longer a single species. Some combined (hence mitochondria w/in cells; chloroplasts w/in plant cells), most did not.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#426818 Dec 14, 2012
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.(Romans 5:6-10)

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.(Romans 6:23)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.(Ephesians 2:8-9)

GET SAVED

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Since: Aug 10

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#426819 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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What is that collective plan Wasup? I didn't get the memo.
I have nothing against Jews or Christians...just the way that some of them behave...
oh....the 'collective plan' is world unity through world socialism under a socialist world redeemer. hitler was the latest in the long line of your failed socialist redeemers.
Anon

Cleveland, OH

#426820 Dec 14, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
Mark 16:14-16
New International Version (NIV)
14 Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
15 He said to them,“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
GET SAVED!
You're a clown, Clown.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426821 Dec 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"...just the way that some of them behave"
i'll tell you what - you take care of the satanic business in your back yard and Christians will continue to grow in Christ and take care of their business. how's that sound?
You still did not explain what that "collective plan" is Wasup.

Nor have you ever explained what rights that liberals have vs Christians and Jews.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426822 Dec 14, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>stop whining
Start acting "SAVED"...or at least learn what it means.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#426824 Dec 14, 2012
The Last True Liberal wrote:
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What is it you have to tell yourself? It sounds something like, "I'm forgiven, I'm forgiven, I'm forgiven!"
Such a scared little boy.
partner, if you reject the forgivness of God, be afraid....be VERY afraid!

as for me; receiving His perfect love has cast out all fear!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#426825 Dec 14, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>You must suck off a bunch of Texans. Your theology is grade school theology. You get what you give.
such unclean and ruff talk for a 'woman'! i'm starting to have my doubts about you again.....

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426826 Dec 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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oh....the 'collective plan' is world unity through world socialism under a socialist world redeemer. hitler was the latest in the long line of your failed socialist redeemers.
Hitler died before most of us were born Wasup...could you maybe give me something a little more current?

No wonder I never got the memo.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#426827 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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What rights have you lost Wasup?
What rights do I have that you do not have?
if you want to know what will happen on a world-wide scale, we have the fairly recent example of germany from the 30's and 40's. it's not an exact example, but we can get the general idea.

you see, in order for socialism to work, EVERYONE has to conform. BUT - them damn jews and christians just won't bow the knee to false gods/antichrist! hence -the final zolution!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#426828 Dec 14, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Yes it is you.
You refuse to answer any of my with honesty and continuet o divert from even answering them.
It is you.
Grow-up and learn your religion. You surely have only learned it from one direction - the wrong one.
okay - sure. although, i did go out of my way to answer your age-old question as to how thomas conflicts with the general consensus of the authorized gospels through providing citations like you asked. i even said that you'd reject them before considering them, which you did.

that's a deal-breaker for me. i.e., until you can honesty answer your objections to what i pointed out, it's not worth my while to provide more pearls just so you can trample them.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#426829 Dec 14, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Every day you get more dumb. Devolution in action.
more insults - is that all you got?

i'm beginning to think that you're homosexual cuz insults and accusations are all they contribute on these threads.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426830 Dec 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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This "peep" and I am fairly sure that WN has never said that we don't like "G". Actually it is quite the opposite regardless of what "G" might think.
I can appreciate "G"s knowledge but not the abusive way that he delivers it. It is the verbal abuse that I oppose...not "G" himself. He doesn't get that and obviously you don't either.
I don't dislike you "T"...just the way that you come on here preaching for others to get saved and yet you persist in acting every which way but "saved".
I will say this..."G" can at least respond to a post in his own words rather I agree with them or not. You just have nonsensical one-liners and a few passages of c/p scripture that you don't seem to follow.
There might be some here that dislike "G"...despite his recent verbal abuse directed toward me...I am not one of those "peeps".
Actually...I find it a bit childish to dislike anyone on an anonymous opinion thread...maybe their opinions and their presentations but really??? Who would waste their time with hatred in a place such as this.
Well, you've pretty much presented my feelings exactly with this post.

While I do not like G's attitude lately, I don't dislike him, much less hate him. I don't even hate people in real life. This is an anonymous board. While it is true that we become internet 'friends' with some and not with some, hate and other extreme emotions usually don't enter into it if you are secure within yourself.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#426831 Dec 14, 2012
The Last True Liberal wrote:
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Got any examples?
Are you one of those O'Reilly pinheads who believes there's a "war on christmas?"
LOL - you can't be helped until you're willing to get your head out of the dirt

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426832 Dec 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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if you want to know what will happen on a world-wide scale, we have the fairly recent example of germany from the 30's and 40's. it's not an exact example, but we can get the general idea.
you see, in order for socialism to work, EVERYONE has to conform. BUT - them damn jews and christians just won't bow the knee to false gods/antichrist! hence -the final zolution!
What rights did you lose as a result Germany in the 30's and 40's. I think that's the pertinent question since you said you've lost rights due to the liberals. Germany wasn't liberal, by the way. Nor was it Socialist. It was a totalitarian state regardless of the fact that he called it The German National Socialist Worker's Party. There is nothing socialist or liberal in a totalitarian state.

Please at least learn the terms you use so you won't look like such a fool.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#426833 Dec 14, 2012
The Last True Liberal wrote:
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What rights have you lost?
if you're a fan of freedom of speech, keep your eyes open to how gay marriage rights have effected the freedoms to broadcast Bible based information in canada & europe. if you're biased against christianity, you probably won't care or see any thing.

also, keep your ears open to how the media reports 'domestic terrorism'. islam won't be the culprit nearly as much as christianity.

hey....you asked!

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