Why I’m no longer a Christian

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426626 Dec 13, 2012
2.“If you died today, do you know where you’d spend the rest of eternity?” No, I don’t, and neither do you. So stop asking such a presumptuous question as this that implies you have some insider knowledge that the rest of us don’t. And seriously, if your faith is entirely founded upon the notion of eternal fire insurance, you’re not sharing testimony; you’re peddling propaganda.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426627 Dec 13, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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no - i was responding to w_n who was answering for you. is she allowing you to speak for yourself now or should i continue to speak to you through her?
I didn't answer 'for' him. I made a comment 'about' him.

You poor persecuted man, you.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426628 Dec 13, 2012
3. “He/she is in a better place.” This may or may not be true. Again, we have no real way of knowing. We may believe it, but to speak with such authority about something we don’t actually know is arrogant. Plus, focusing on the passing of a loved one minimizes the grief of the people they left behind.
Huh

Dallas, TX

#426629 Dec 13, 2012
Protester wrote:
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After reading your story, it’s clear to me that you were NEVER a Christian. Here’s how I know, and it should be obvious to you too, since you stated from the beginning that you didn’t get it, that you believed different from what Christians believed. I condensed your remarks to the few that showed why (above).
While others feel guilt over their sins, and humbly seek forgiveness, you didn‘t.
You don’t seem to be a sociopath, although you never mention loving anybody but yourself, which you did admit. You don’t mention ever putting anybody else’s welfare before yours, so you’re definitely lacking something, and you do clearly admit admiring yourself from an early age. Maybe your mother drank during pregnancy, or nobody ever showed you love during your early years. I don’t think you’re hopeless, but you have to stop being arrogant, worshipping your own ego, and look at how evil you’ve been to others before you can humble yourself and see that you really NEED forgiveness.
People: If you are fooled by everybody who claims to be a Christian, you should worry about yourself, and question what else you fall for.
I believe most people who think they’re Christians aren’t, but they don’t care enough about their own future to find out.
That’s why this is NOT a Christian country, and why the younger generations are not mentally healthy and surviving.
Christians are sorry they sin, and work to change and live a Godly life. They know that Christ paid for their sins when He died on the cross.
What else are you falling for? Ministers who deceive and mislead others just enough so that they miss the truth too?
(next post)
No True Scotsman and a cut and paste!

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426630 Dec 13, 2012
4.“Can I share a little bit about my faith with you?” Too often, Christians presume we have something everyone else needs, without even knowing them first. Ask someone about their story, but maybe not the second you meet them. Christian evangelism often is the equivalent of a randy young teenager trying to get in good with his new girlfriend. When your personal agenda is more important than the humanity of the person you’re talking to, most people can sense the opportunism from a mile a way.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426632 Dec 13, 2012
5.“You should come to church with me on Sunday.” It’s not that we should never invite people to church, but too much of the time, it’s the first thing we do when we encounter someone new. My wife, Amy, and I started a new church eight years ago, founded on the principle of “earning the right to invite.” Invest in people first. Listen to their stories. Learn their passions, their longings, and share the same about yourself. Then, after you’ve actually invested in each other, try suggesting something not related to church to help you connect on a spiritual level. If the person really gets to know you and wants to know more about why you live your life the way you do, they’ll make a point to find out. Then again, if you come off as just another opinionated, opportunistic Christian, why should they honor your predatory approach with a visit to the church that taught you how to act that way in the first place?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426633 Dec 13, 2012
6.“Have you asked Jesus into your heart?” As many times as I’ve heard this, I still don’t really know what it means. why my heart? Why not my liver or kidneys? This also makes Christianity sound like a purely emotional experience, rather than a lifelong practice that can never entirely be realized. But yeah, asking someone if they’re engaged in a lifelong discipline to orient their lives toward Christlike compassion, love and mercy doesn’t exactly have the same ring to it.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426634 Dec 13, 2012
7.“Do you accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior?” Again, this is not in the Bible. Anywhere. And for me, it goes against the whole Christlike notion of the suffering servant. People tried to elevate Jesus to the status of Lord, but he rejected it. So why do we keep trying? Plus, the whole idea of a lord is so antiquated, it has no real relevance to our lives today. Be more mindful of your words, and really mean what you say.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426635 Dec 13, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"Very few take the time to make something..."
can anyone say "EL CHEAPO!!!"
just kidding; not my style, but i couldn't resist:)
Actually, I could buy really nice scented candles for much less than I spend on supplies. But I don't give my time & energy to make gifts for unappreciative people. The people for whom I make gifts are those who know that loving hands making something special for them is a much more thoughtful gift than something that can be purchased at the mall.

When has someone made homemade jelly for you? When has someone made homemade bread for you? I do that on a fairly regular basis for the people I love and care for. It's not quite the same as buying a jar of jelly and a loaf of bread at the store, which I presume is what you'd rather have.
Huh

Dallas, TX

#426636 Dec 13, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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no - i was responding to w_n who was answering for you. is she allowing you to speak for yourself now or should i continue to speak to you through her?
You must have been born on a highway because that's where most accidents happen.

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#426637 Dec 13, 2012
Nevaeh wrote:
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LOL Don't be so naive... I could tell you things about Satan that would have you running back to mommy. You wouldn't believe me anyway, so I don't... Just know... He is very real... N
it's amazing how many fundies believe in satan. how scared fundies are of him.

if one doesn't believe in your man made god being, one doesn't believe in your satan either.

are you also afraid of the easter bunny, santa, and bigfoot????

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426638 Dec 13, 2012
8.“This could be the end of days.” This is one of my favorites. We Christians love to look for signs of the end of the world; we practically have an apocalyptic fetish. It’s like we can’t wait until everything comes to a smoldering halt so we can stand tall with that “I told you so” look on our faces, while the nonbelievers beg for mercy. Yeah, that sounds like an awesome religion you’ve got going there. Sign me up!
Huh

Dallas, TX

#426639 Dec 13, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"making shit up"???
before there was socialism/communism & atheism there were still power mongers who used the influences that were available in order to control and murder the masses who wouldn't conform. today, we call them "liberal" of all things! how ironic!
Your birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426640 Dec 13, 2012
9. “Jesus died for your sins.” I know, this is an all-time Christian favorite. But even if you buy into the concept of substitutionary atonement (the idea that God set Jesus up as a sacrifice to make good for all the bad stuff we’ve done), this is a abysmal way to introduce your faith to someone. I didn’t ask Jesus to die for me, and if I’m not a Christian, I really have no concept of how that could possibly be a good thing. he whole idea of being washed clean by an innocent man’s blood is enough to give any person nightmares, let alone lead them into a deeper conversation about what Christianity is about.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426641 Dec 13, 2012
10.“Will all our visitors please stand?” If someone finally is brave enough to walk through the doors of your church, the last thing they want is to be singled out. They probably don’t know the songs you’re singing or the prayers or responsive readings you’re reading. Depending on the translation of the Bible you use, the scripture may not make much sense, and they probably have no idea where the bathroom is. So why add to the discomfort by making them stand so everyone can stare at them? Also, calling someone a visitor already implies they are simply passing through, that they’re not a part of things. Instead of “visitor” or “guest,” try something less loaded like “newcomer.” Better yet, walk up to them, introduce yourself and learn their name.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426642 Dec 13, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"making shit up"???
before there was socialism/communism & atheism there were still power mongers who used the influences that were available in order to control and murder the masses who wouldn't conform. today, we call them "liberal" of all things! how ironic!
No, they're still called Christians, Muslims and Jews. And they're still killing people all over the globe.

Christians killing 'witches' in Africa still counts as Christians killing in the name of their God. What a horrid god you worship if that's what he represents. I personally think that it's human hate, not a God who wants these things done.

Look at the Muslim countries. I'm sure you'd rather live there than here. Their God is the God of Abraham. You know, the same God you worship. Their word for God is Allah in their language, but it's the same God. You want to distance yourself from them but you can't. Their bullshit came from the same place yours did...the Jewish scriptures. Of course, just as the Christians misinterpreted those scriptures, so did Christians. The God of the OT isn't nice anyway, and you guys made him an even more evil character.

Go ahead with your pretense of being a preacher to prisoners. Go ahead and pretend to be a follower of Jesus. Nobody cares what you believe. They care that your kind are evil and kill other people in the name of your God.
Huh

Dallas, TX

#426643 Dec 13, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>what a dumb post
You are proof that evolution CAN go in reverse.
Huh

Dallas, TX

#426644 Dec 13, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Only when they share a story in an attempt to put me down.
Give it a rest.
You knew nothing of candling.
The story was BS to make fun of my education and intelligence.
If you had any, it could be made fun of.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426645 Dec 13, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
10.“Will all our visitors please stand?” If someone finally is brave enough to walk through the doors of your church, the last thing they want is to be singled out. They probably don’t know the songs you’re singing or the prayers or responsive readings you’re reading. Depending on the translation of the Bible you use, the scripture may not make much sense, and they probably have no idea where the bathroom is. So why add to the discomfort by making them stand so everyone can stare at them? Also, calling someone a visitor already implies they are simply passing through, that they’re not a part of things. Instead of “visitor” or “guest,” try something less loaded like “newcomer.” Better yet, walk up to them, introduce yourself and learn their name.
Great posts, Annie. Thanks for that. I'm going to bookmark those.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#426646 Dec 13, 2012
Here are more of those things that Christians shouldn't say...

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christianpiatt/2...

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christianpiatt/2...

All of these things we have heard over and over...most of them address the very thing that we have tried to tell these guys.

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