Why I知 no longer a Christian

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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i love it when people claim christians are insane!


Just the ones like you.

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G_O_D wrote:
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Nope. I have a problem with swapping in different criteria to prove their case.
If you discount the Gospels as historical documents because they were written decades after the alleged events occured then you have to sicount almost every historical document as they are almost all medival products. I used Caesar only as an example, there are thousands.
You can disagree with me all you want, I don;t mind. It is when you play games like the above that I get disgruntled.
there was a man, who performed many miracles over a large area, in the site of many persons, and over a period of years. No one thought to report any of these supernatural events for several decades, and then a continuous improvement can be seen in the reporting, almost as if it were mythology.

jesus

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this person is the ___GOD_____ of the universe , but cannot manage a cogent report be kept.

god damn but do you have a god need

you have a god need
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Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Look up.
You missed something.
Blow it out your bugle, Louie.

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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I'm working on a line of trash bags based on my magical red bag of presents.
I lost a few elves during testing. You see, I found the original magical red bag at the airport, so I don't know how it was created. Reverse engineering has been hit and miss. You can put as much trash in the bags as you want to, but you can't get anything back out of them.
I'm thinking of calling them Black Hole Bags.
Sounds like a fair trade to me. 2 for a large bag of reindeer food?

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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let me break this down for you:
you said - "I don't relinquish responsibility for myself to a 'deity' of any kind"
this means that instead of allowing Christ to atone for your sins (which is the only way to the Father), you agree to pay for them yourself.
i'm just trying to cut threw the crap so you can see how it looks from God's perspective:)
You may have a lot of things, waas, but 'God's Perspective' is categorically absent from the list.

Try again?

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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
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<quoted text>I have no earthly idea what you just said, much less what I'll say before I leave this plane - if anything.
What I did say, on the other hand, was that you and your version of 'god' have no power over me, because I don't relinquish responsibility for myself to a 'deity' of any kind.
But if that's your cup o' meat, feel free to gnaw it at will.
Happy Monday!!
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let me break this down for you:
you said - "I don't relinquish responsibility for myself to a 'deity' of any kind"
this means that instead of allowing Christ to atone for your sins (which is the only way to the Father), you agree to pay for them yourself.
i'm just trying to cut threw the crap so you can see how it looks from God's perspective:)
So now you know the mind of your god, do you?

You are f*cking insane.

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Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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The result of bad history.
Confirmation bias.
G_O_D wrote:
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Exactly. Sadly it is almost as common in academia as the church.
And you certainly demonstrate your share of it.

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like a fair trade to me. 2 for a large bag of reindeer food?
Okay.

The reindeer are getting tired of Chex Mix.

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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what does all this hafta do with you having a nice ass?
I think this may tie with "Why didn't the wheel-chair jerk just commit suicide?" for the title of 'Most Christian of Queries.'

If you're an exemplary Christian, I pity the rest of them.
You, on the other hand, simply bore me.

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<quoted text>God is a sound people make when they're too tired to think anymore.
-- Edward Abbey, from, Vox Clamantis In Deserto (A Voice Crying In The Wilderness), quoted from Steve Cichowski, personal letter to Cliff Walker (February 21, 2002)
Cactus Ed rocks.

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<quoted text>stop making an @ss outta yourself
Still waiting for your "proof" of satan. You -can- prove your satan, can't you?
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Tide with Beach wrote:
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I offer on-the-sled financing.
I also accept reindeer food as payment. Petsmart never f_cking has it anymore.
st

How about some 'Oatmeal Chocolate Cookies?" :)
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Anon wrote:
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So that's who's been spitting pumpkin seed husks all over my wood floors. Bloody bastard!
At least you have a sense of humor...
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DearthOfCouth wrote:
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Indeed it was. I'm still reeling with it.
I think it deserves a replay:
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What else is there to say?
Your kidding right? D, I think your smarter than believing that...

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Nevaeh wrote:
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How about some 'Oatmeal Chocolate Cookies?" :)
Let me ask Rudolph.

He's the union representative.

He's blinking morse code: "Chocolate gives gas. Ask for Apple Jacks."
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Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Oooh, scawy. Of course I laugh at you. Your mindless revenge scenarios are childish and ridiculous. Grow up. 1563 CE called. They want their superstitions back
God told me that the wicked and the evil wont get it... I think you fall into that category. I could call you names too, but you wouldn't get that either... maybe you should grow up..:)

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G_O_D wrote:
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Nope. I have a problem with swapping in different criteria to prove their case.
If you discount the Gospels as historical documents because they were written decades after the alleged events occured then you have to sicount almost every historical document as they are almost all medival products. I used Caesar only as an example, there are thousands.
You can disagree with me all you want, I don;t mind. It is when you play games like the above that I get disgruntled.
Well God forbid that G_O_D might be disgruntled by the little peoples with whom he's forced to share space.

If someone has "discounted the gospels" citing their dating as the sole reason, with no further arguments fleshing out the objection, then yes, that would be somewhat weak.

I can't say I saw someone do that. Did you, or did you just leap onto a thin slice of a long ongoing discussion and use it to springboard yet another bit of obnoxious pedantry?

Your erudition is oftentimes interesting, and informative. A modicum of civility and no small amount of humility would be a welcome addition to your repertoire.

The dating of the written sources is an important, but uncritical, portion of the overall denouement. It is merely another criticism. The problem with the alleged "historical" gospels is NOT that they were written so long after the fact, but that they claim to be based on eyewitness accounts. This is not a vital component in general of the histories of Caesar, etc. Those instances in which they appear - say, the story of Alexander and the Gordian Knot, for instance - are seen by >most< readers as anecdotal and apocryphal, and it matters little whether it was written immediately or 1000 years later. The existence of Alexander does not depend on the story, nor are the accounts intended to serve to deify the man. The gospels, on the other hand, DO depend on the alleged veracity of the eyewitness accounts - thus the importance in questioning their autograph.
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Let me ask Rudolph.
He's the union representative.
He's blinking morse code: "Chocolate gives gas. Ask for Apple Jacks."
Apple Jacks have too much sugar..

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Still waiting for your "proof" of satan. You -can- prove your satan, can't you?
you can't disprove satan can you???

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I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.(John 8:24)

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