Why I’m no longer a Christian

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#425990 Dec 10, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Hello, thank you for calling Xcntrik Enterprises.
We're not accepting strawmen arguments at this time.
Please feel free to call back at any time.
You have lost much since you were last here, X.

Perhaps I put you on too high a pedestal.
Anyway, I learned much from you in the past. I thank you for that. Your blog is still one off the best.

Me thinks you have been worn down by all the fundies. Sad that.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#425991 Dec 10, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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You have lost much since you were last here, X.
Perhaps I put you on too high a pedestal.
Anyway, I learned much from you in the past. I thank you for that. Your blog is still one off the best.
Me thinks you have been worn down by all the fundies. Sad that.
Thank you for your projections.

Your participation is greatly appreciated.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

Since: Nov 09

---CHINA'S BEST FRIEND

#425992 Dec 10, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>you can't disprove satan can you???
CHECKMATE
Clown on the side grinning
I don't have to.

You claim jesus is god; you are obligated to prove it if you expect to be believed.

Pigeon chess doesn't work here, clownie.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

Since: Nov 09

---CHINA'S BEST FRIEND

#425993 Dec 10, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.(John 8:24)
GET SAVED
You are obligated to prove that there is something to be saved from.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

Since: Nov 09

---CHINA'S BEST FRIEND

#425994 Dec 10, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
Jesus rose from the dead...
You are obligated to prove it if you expect to be believed. Get busy.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

Since: Nov 09

---CHINA'S BEST FRIEND

#425995 Dec 10, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
The Bible talks about the spirit of anti-Christ and it is very clear that the people of Israel, would fall into that class should they continue to reject the truth that Jesus Christ is indeed the prophesied Messiah, and obviously our creator and Saviour.
Your bible is a book of lies.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

Since: Nov 09

---CHINA'S BEST FRIEND

#425996 Dec 10, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Nope, I didn't drag you or try to validate you at all but yes, you are the ultimat in crap.
Maybe some day you will contribute more than pathetic isults on this thread.
You really hate to be challenged, don't you? Is that part of your god complex? I haven't seen you contribute anything but hubristic, misogynistic, self-inflated crap.

For a deity, you are one thin-skinned, sh*t-stained little prick.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

Since: Nov 09

---CHINA'S BEST FRIEND

#425997 Dec 10, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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My credentials have been posted here. I got a lot of shit for doing so.
Your fake credentials are crap. So are you.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

Since: Nov 09

---CHINA'S BEST FRIEND

#425998 Dec 10, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
wrote:
....For a "professional historian and archaeologist," you certainly know very little about either, outside of your own confirmation bias.
G_O_D wrote:
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Aaaawwwwwe. Kate learned another word... she has no clue what it means though...
Truth hurts, doesn't it?

Don't you ever get tired of having your ass handed to you?
Lost In Transition

United States

#425999 Dec 10, 2012
Huh wrote:
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Should the mother, who clasps to her breast an idiot child, thank God?
-- Robert Green Ingersoll, from "Why I Am an Agnostic" (1896)
Good question.
Let's ask the idiot.
Lost In Transition

United States

#426001 Dec 10, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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He just makes crap up, throws parenthesis around it and claims it is "God's word".
I do that with "Obama".
Can't stop myself.

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#426002 Dec 11, 2012
Another quote, a tad more up-to-date:

I just don't understand the want for comfort in an inferior explanation when the truth is so elegant and awe inspiring.
Richard Dawkins

Since: Dec 12

Tecuci, Romania

#426003 Dec 11, 2012
I am christian for ever because i'm born in this way.
__________
http://www.magic.org.ro

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#426004 Dec 11, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
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You really hate to be challenged, don't you?.....
I like to be challenged. That doesn't happen much here.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#426005 Dec 11, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
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Your fake credentials are crap. So are you.
Sour grapes, eh ?

Sorry, I forgot you don't understand that children's story. Get a child to explain it to you.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#426006 Dec 11, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
...
Don't you ever get tired of having your ass handed to you?
Hasn't happened yet.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#426007 Dec 11, 2012
Magicorg wrote:
I am christian for ever because i'm born in this way.
__________
http://www.magic.org.ro
We are all born ignorant, agreed.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#426008 Dec 11, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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1. They do not themselves claim to be eyewitnesses, Luke/Acts even makes the statement that his work is a collection of stories told ex post facto.
You are mistaking Christain claims for what the docements actually do or do not say.
Hmmm. This is interesting. I didn't say they themselves did claim to be eyewitnesses. In fact, my sentence construction was clear. "Why does he respond as if I did?" I ask myself. "He's generally pretty sharp." I can only presume that you're being contrarian for the sake of a reply. I don't wanna do that dance, but thanks for asking.

I said, "The problem with the alleged "historical" gospels is NOT that they were written so long after the fact, but that they claim to be based on eyewitness accounts." True, two of the gospels make no overt claim. Luke does, in fact, make the claim for them all in his introductory paragraph. GoJohn strongly implies the same for his own in his next to last paragraph.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#426009 Dec 11, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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2. That is debatable:
"Some believe he implied he was a demigod by actively using the title "Son of Ammon–Zeus". The title was bestowed upon him by Egyptian priests of the god Ammon at the Oracle of the god at the Siwah oasis in the Libyan Desert."
Not the least of the many extraordinary facts about Alexander is that both in his lifetime and after his death he was worshipped as a god, by Greeks and Ancient Macedonians as well as, for example, Egyptians (to whom he was Pharaoh). The episode that led to Callisthenes' death in 327 was connected to this fact. Greeks and Ancient Macedonians believed that formal obeisance should be paid only to gods. So the refusal of his Greek and Macedonian courtiers to pay it to Alexander implied that they, at any rate, did not believe he genuinely was a living god, at least not in the same sense as Zeus or Dionysus were. Alexander, regardless, did nothing to discourage the view that he really was divine. His claim to divine birth, not merely divine descent, was part of a total self-promotional package, which included the striking of silver medallions in India depicting him with the attributes of Zeus. Through sheer force of personality and magnitude of achievement he won over large numbers of ordinary Greeks and Macedonians to share this view of himself, and to act on it by devoting shrines to his cult."
Cartledge, Paul (2004). "Alexander the Great". History Today
We were not speaking of his self-promotion. We are contrasting the quasi-historical accounts that come down to us informing us of various people's existence. Which accounts of Alexander come down to us today that are (as I wrote) "intended to serve to deify the man"?

I repeat, this is the difference between the gospels and other accounts - the gospels are claimed to be based on eyewitness accounts. Matthew strongly implies that Jesus is divine, and John is overt about it.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#426010 Dec 11, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>.... Matthew strongly implies that Jesus is divine, and John is overt about it.
No. They don't.

You are taking the Christians' interpretation as fact.

In none of the Canonical Gospel does Jesus or the authors claim Jesus to be a deity at all. Three claim he is a zombie, but none claim Jesus is a god.

Please post any versus where a claim to be a deity exists in them.

As for Alexander, He was deified, so was Caesar.

Your arguement falls flat.

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