Why Iím no longer a Christian

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Dec 8, 2012
 
DearthOfCouth wrote:
Demographic center of the USA and therefore, well, the world? You guessed it --
Missouri.
And when Hannibal makes his Second Coming....
Well, you better get ready, is all I can say!
Hannibal

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T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I hate wastewater
call it what ever

after he blesses it, you are not supposed to drink it ---loon

use it for your douche

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A Former Liberal wrote:
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Your jesus tells you it's good to hate, doesn't he?
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<quoted text>Your satan tells you to hate, HUH liberal...
Yup; your jesus tells you it's good for you to hate in his name. You're a sick clown.
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<quoted text> The most reasonable explanation of the disappearance of Jesus' body is that it was moved by the man who loaned him the tomb. But of course you won't accept that because you need to believe he got up and walked around after being dead. If he did indeed walk out of the cave, he was not dead to begin with. It goes against the laws of nature and any intelligent God would not allow you to believe such a thing.
It is made of whole cloth and is nothing but the adoption of a previous myth.
It is impossible for death not to hold one in it's 'power'.
You are so filled with apologetics there is no room for rational thinking. It's believe or die.
Hi waterbug,
Just some thoughts, not tryin' to make your water boil. Though it is a good time of year to visit a hot spring.
Here goes; concerning the risen Christ thing. There is a historic Roman feature to it. My mom was the daughter of an actual gypsy, she (my mom) married a believer and out popped my sis and I. I believe in intellectual design, God reaching out to His creation. Sorta like if I have a child, I want to play with them.
Above info just a fill in for the original topic. I gave you the above so you would have some understanding that I was forced to look deep into stuff just to have family creds.
So here is a tidbit. Jesus was historically signed into this worlds populous. That being the Roman census that drove Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem. And Jesus also signed out of history through the Roman governmental documentation system.
So, we know that his birth and death are not reliant on religious scribes, though there is that also.
But for me, this is the clincher. Concerning the claimed resurrection and the assumed stolen body. Documentation shows that the high priests were very concerned about the body being stolen. Subsequently they went to the Romans, who we know documented everything, and requested a squad of soldiers to guard the tomb. I don't remember how many men would have been in a squad but I do know this. It is undisputed that the soldiers would have been put to death if anyone got near enough to steal that body. Do you understand 'waterbug', those Roman soldiers would never have let anyone near that tomb until they were released from guard duty. Your game is upped a notch or two when death is the punishment for failure.
Anyway........ I'm aware a rose bush doesn't blossom over night but a little water helps.

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Dec 9, 2012
 
local loco wrote:
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I bible gives impression that if your no longer a christian, you never were a christian. Jesus said that He didn't lose one the Father had given Him. That means you were always just another religious person. You know, the kind that crucified Him.
To bad. It must suck to be you.
peace, out
Thanks for your concern.

Or whatever it was.

(The world is terribly unfair to inarticulate people, isn't it?)

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Dec 9, 2012
 
DearthOfCouth wrote:
Demographic center of the USA and therefore, well, the world? You guessed it --
Missouri.
And when Hannibal makes his Second Coming....
Well, you better get ready, is all I can say!
Maybe you need to hook up with Harold Camping. Sounds like you may have a money maker and he's good at taking people's money.
You'd have to work on the percentage of the split on the total take.

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Dec 9, 2012
 
karl44 wrote:
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Hannibal
the path is long and high and narrow, many will embark few will achieve
the time is near, so say the sooths that all may believe
The sooths sayeth the truths.

Unbelievers gom be grievers.

Hannibal be comin'!

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Dec 9, 2012
 
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Maybe you need to hook up with Harold Camping. Sounds like you may have a money maker and he's good at taking people's money.
You'd have to work on the percentage of the split on the total take.
Shame on you for even thinking such a thing.

Wouldn't have a phone number, wouldja?

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Dec 9, 2012
 
karl44 wrote:
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NOT during the time frame of the jesus myth
those beliefs did not begin for hundreds of years
Exactly...

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You assume? I thought you said he was a historical character who died at the hands of the Romans; now you say it's "reasonable to -assume-" he did?
Are all of your "facts" based on assumptions?
I was asked for a historical analysis. I gave it.

Do you KNOW how your father is or are you assuming ?

In the final analysis, everything is an assumption based on weighing the available evidence. It is only an assumption that reality even exists.

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Dec 9, 2012
 
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> None contemporary.
http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-R...
Polybius (200 Ė 118 BC) was in fact a contemporary of Hannibal (247 Ė 183 BC)

Maybe you should look things up first insead of instantly posting nonsense.

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Dec 9, 2012
 
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
....It is entirely possible that the idea and story of followers finding an empty tomb is Markan fiction, or the creation of some earlier tradition...
Or one can take Mark at its word "He got up and went home."

You would think that if Mark thought it was a resurrection he would have made a bigger deal of it or been very specific about it instead of ending right there.

The belief that almost all Christinaity hangs its hat on is only two sentences in Mark. Must not have been that important.

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karl44 wrote:
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that god and jesus are aliens from another planet, is much more likely, by orders of magnitude, than is the proposition that christian gods represent reality.
Based on the current evidence, I concur with you.

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karl44 wrote:
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when do you think the lies of Paul were written, and by whom?
the historians you admire cannot name the author
Most hisorians agree that at least seven of Paul's letters are legitimate. The rest of the entire Bible is anonymous.

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karl44 wrote:
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.....here is Hannibal's tomb,....
It's in Gebze Turkey.

http://hannibalbarca.webspace.virginmedia.com...

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karl44 wrote:
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I like him at times, he gets cranky about once a month
Twice!

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G_O_D wrote:
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It's in Gebze Turkey.
http://hannibalbarca.webspace.virginmedia.com...
There's nobody there. It's empty.

Trust me. I fell off my Nishiki and saw him.

Now I'm spreading the word...
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DearthOfCouth wrote:
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Thanks for your concern.
Or whatever it was.
(The world is terribly unfair to inarticulate people, isn't it?)
I agree, the 'sucks for you' part was uncalled for. I'm a bit slow, so I have lots of study but am rather new at this,'remember the holy spirit lives in you stuff. I'm sure the Lord loves you, but I am in this aging flesh that should probably go vegan, for others sake.
Now, the (The world is terribly unfair to inarticulate people, isn't it?) part.
God is not a respecter of man. Meaning He can be unfair to everyone equally or no one equally. Unfair is subjective. My mom was just a mom and till the day she passed on she said that children want to be seen, caught and disciplined. Meaning, given perimeters and purpose. Yet, the whole time your doing it, the child is screaming that your unfair.
The question isn't wether you want to be a christian or if you think others are acting like christians. It's more like, the story of Jonah. Is God pursuing you? Are you called? As you continue on with your life post-church and are no longer pursuing God is He still in you? Ya see many of us leave church because we are told that God is a reaction. He only reacts good for good and bad for bad.
Well, I have found it to be the other way around. He is the potentate, the alpha. That's why christianity isn't a religion, it's a heralding. It is a trumpeting that we are being pursued, sought out!
Believe me, your spirit will rejoice at this if you are called. Sorta like when He rose the little girl from the dead. Though she was dead, she heard Him calling her, Tabitha
peace

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Some Stoner Dude wrote:
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there's a rumor going around that i'm your sock. is that true?
No, you're my sock, not T=Town's.

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WasteWater wrote:
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You are still a dickless wonder.
Please explain what that has to do with your other delusions.
I can tell you are the sock puppet of Kaitlin. You post hatred just like her and you always respond to posts I make directed towards her. Your atheism is making you look like a fool.

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