Why I’m no longer a Christian

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#425508 Dec 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think he might be admitting being a serial killer? You might ought to look into that in VA. See how many burned bodies they found.
He is a rather odd charactor...
We've had several over the years I've been on this thread.
I'll look into it however...

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#425509 Dec 9, 2012
andet1987 wrote:
<quoted text>
Merry Christmas to you in advance T-Town Clown :)
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to one of my favorite peeps... ;)
Educating the Idiots

Magalia, CA

#425510 Dec 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>It always boils down to threats of burning (in this life or the next) when you don't conform to their viewpoint, doesn't it?
Hell is having people on this earth who are so hate filled that they only want harm to come to those who don't believe as they do. Their mind burns up way before they could reach a physical hell, even if there was one.
The atheist doctrine of hate. Well defined.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#425511 Dec 9, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
We are done Jackass. GTFOH
YO human waste, can't take it huh? VICTORY CLOWN

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#425512 Dec 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> It didn't take long for you to start up again with your hate-filled posts. Why do you think we saw it coming?
Like you didn't know he was going to damn us to his christian mythical hell-place??
Even though...and this is a new angle, christianity is not a religion...go figure. Even though his examples of religions were ALL christian religions listed in the same catagory.
Oh well...every day adds another to the growing 38,000+....should we start thinking about 39,000+ soon??

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#425513 Dec 9, 2012
karl44 wrote:
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
It's all they can do, since learning is against their religion.
<quoted text>
well, then
stay away, you are not man enough
you will get your clwon ass kicked
shut your pie hole karl you big sissy

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#425514 Dec 9, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Do you?
<quoted text> T-Clown was telling you what you need to hear. That is far different from degrading someone. Which cannot be done in the first place. people can only degrade themselves. They cannot degrade others. They can name call but in the process only degrade themselves.
<quoted text> Get off your high horse.
<quoted text> Telling you what you need to hear is loving. More loving than feeding you lies.''Faithful are the wounds of a friend. Deceitful the kisses of your enemy.'' You think you have saving relationship with God apart from the Cross of Christ? You do not. That is what you need to hear.
First off lightbeamrider...I will apologize for the back and forth arguing. I forget sometimes that it is senseless to ever argue with someone that wants to justify their actions. Funny how people can read the same passage of scripture...some will find a message of love while others find an excuse to hate.

It is senseless to try to reason with the later group.

I have thought seriously about what you have said in your above post. I find it troubling...that one will use the Bible...use their faith...to justify their lack of respect or actions toward another human being.

How far will you go to show this "love" that you refer to?

Would you become physically abusive to show this "love"?

We ALL say things here in this environment that is uncalled for...that steps over the line of human decency. Not all of us do it however and then call it "God's love"...or shout "in the name of Jesus".

Jesus condensed all the commandments down to two.

Love God.

Love your neighbor as "yourself".

I find the word "yourself" to be the most interesting...

Maybe it explains that "love" that you talked about...maybe one treats themselves in the same manner that they treat others.

Before you can respect your neighbor you must first respect "yourself".

Before you can show compassion, kindness, love you must first have those same feelings toward "yourself".

You brought up the issue that this is Topix...as if no rules apply here. Maybe we should change the following to include...

37 Jesus replied:“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Verse 41 Unless you are on Topix then don't worry about following any of this.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#425515 Dec 9, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Yup; your jesus tells you it's good for you to hate in his name. You're a sick clown.
your satan tells you to hate in his name!!! what a chump

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#425516 Dec 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>It always boils down to threats of burning (in this life or the next) when you don't conform to their viewpoint, doesn't it?
Hell is having people on this earth who are so hate filled that they only want harm to come to those who don't believe as they do. Their mind burns up way before they could reach a physical hell, even if there was one.
I have come to consider the hell-threat as the ultimate concession. They can not come up with any other Logical input so...damn them to the hell-place...that will fix 'em...

The cool thing is...I don't damn them to anywhere...I don't have to. They are suffering in their delusion without my wishes or direction.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#425517 Dec 9, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Hannibal was not listed as a savior or any such claims of christianity.
So?
That changes the crux of the debate and it's necessity to be able to claim any absolute.
Not when anyone is attempting to establish historicity only.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#425518 Dec 9, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is not my argument dipstick. My argument is there are no contemporary accounts for either Jesus or Hannibal. If you reject Jesus because there is no contemporary accounts then by that standard you must also reject Hannibal and a host of other ancient historical persons. And that is why i keep printing you have delusional comprehenion.
that post is what I call WINNING
Huh

Arlington, TX

#425520 Dec 9, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is not my argument dipstick. My argument is there are no contemporary accounts for either Jesus or Hannibal. If you reject Jesus because there is no contemporary accounts then by that standard you must also reject Hannibal and a host of other ancient historical persons. And that is why i keep printing you have delusional comprehenion.
The historicity of Hannibal has not been established. That is correct. The historicity of Jesus has not been established. That is correct. There is no reason to believe either is more than legend. End of story.
Huh

Arlington, TX

#425521 Dec 9, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>that post is what I call WINNING
Yes, winning in proving that the historicity of Jesus has never been established.
Huh

Arlington, TX

#425522 Dec 9, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Tell it to G....
Your imaginary fiend is of no import.
Huh

Arlington, TX

#425523 Dec 9, 2012
local yokel wrote:
<quoted text>
When I bump into people like you wiggley, I can begin at some small degree to understand
the purpose of a lake of fire. I have lived in virginia, we burned all the useless sh_t.
Bloodthirsty Christians. A dime a dozen.
Huh

Arlington, TX

#425524 Dec 9, 2012
Educating the Idiots wrote:
<quoted text>
So is atheism open to be taxed?
Sure, if it stole money from the sheep every Sunday. Until then, another stupid Christian spews.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#425525 Dec 9, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> So?
<quoted text> Not when anyone is attempting to establish historicity only.
So???
The importance and accuracy and credibility of a historical figure is one thing. The importance etc of a saviour being, a god-being, a being you say was able to die, dead, as we clinically declare someone dead, and then become un-dead...just like that.
I'd say there's a larger need for acccuracy of your jesus-being/god-being for good reasons.
After all, isn't eternal life kinda important to you??

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#425526 Dec 9, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Bloodthirsty Christians. A dime a dozen.
Yea, only because I disagree with their religious preference/choice. Then they make claim to my demise (the hell-place) only to say I'm attacking them...odd but predictable.
The Truth

Charlotte, NC

#425527 Dec 9, 2012
WARNING!
The Portals are still open.
Repeat: The Portals are STILL open.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#425528 Dec 9, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
First off lightbeamrider...I will apologize for the back and forth arguing.
That is a surprise. It is OK. It is Topix. None are perfect.
I forget sometimes that it is senseless to ever argue with someone that wants to justify their actions. Funny how people can read the same passage of scripture...some will find a message of love while others find an excuse to hate.
Things perceived as hateful may actually be misconstrued. Neither T-Clown or myself wants to see anybody go to hell. I would not wish it on my worst enemy, if i had one. As it is i don't anymore.
I have thought seriously about what you have said in your above post. I find it troubling...that one will use the Bible...use their faith...to justify their lack of respect or actions toward another human being.
How far will you go to show this "love" that you refer to?
Would you become physically abusive to show this "love"?
Physically abusive. No. I have no respect for false beliefs which will hurt people, nor do i have any respect for the lies spread on here which distort my beliefs as a Christian. As far as the subject matter here there is little to respect. I will admit i should respect people more but my tolerance level is tested and i find i am more tolerant than i used to be. I could be a lot more cruel.
We ALL say things here in this environment that is uncalled for...that steps over the line of human decency. Not all of us do it however and then call it "God's love"...or shout "in the name of Jesus".
Jesus condensed all the commandments down to two.
Love God.
Love your neighbor as "yourself".
I find the word "yourself" to be the most interesting...
Maybe it explains that "love" that you talked about...maybe one treats themselves in the same manner that they treat others.
Before you can respect your neighbor you must first respect "yourself".
Before you can show compassion, kindness, love you must first have those same feelings toward "yourself".
You brought up the issue that this is Topix...as if no rules apply here. Maybe we should change the following to include...
37 Jesus replied:“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Verse 41 Unless you are on Topix then don't worry about following any of this.
Self love in Scripture is defined within the context of marriage in Scripture as far as i know. Eph. 5:28. If you love your wife then you love yourself. That principal could be applied to neighbor as well. I don't think it is reasonable to set the bar all that high within the context of Topix given the nature of the debates and the circumstances. It also says in Scripture that by my standard of measure it will be measured out so that means i don't have a lot of high expectations when it comes to other people. So if i personally do not measure up to what you consider a Christian than i would add my oldest brother who is an atheist is far more kinder, patient, outgoing, and loving that i am. We both had the same mother who instilled in us to basic Catholic principals which he was better able to grasp than i was. I, on the other hand went through life with mostly contempt for just about everything. That has changed somewhat in the last few years. That is enough self disclosure for this site. You need to consider where a person was at and know growth is a process, at least in my case.

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