Why I’m no longer a Christian

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#425170 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Thanks DoC...I'm now officially a grandpa as of 2:00am.
Have a great day!!
Congrats, Grandpa!

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#425171 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text>Is not how history works. It is an arbitary standard.
<quoted text> Expert historians do. You know better?
<quoted text> BS.
<quoted text> Where are the sources from the time Alexander lived? Hannibal?
If you want to argue that there is enough evidence to support the existance of a 1st cent. wandering preacher named Jesus then many historians will agree.

It is when you claim him to have risen from the grave, become God and all the nasty crap you did in life is now OK, then you haven't an academic leg to stand on.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#425172 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Congrats, Grandpa!
Thank You sir. I'm already planning my campaign on how to spoil him...haha

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#425173 Dec 8, 2012
This one isn't a music vid. It's the Atheist Experience show. I highly recommend it.

Think About It

Magalia, CA

#425174 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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If you want to argue that there is enough evidence to support the existance of a 1st cent. wandering preacher named Jesus then many historians will agree.
It is when you claim him to have risen from the grave, become God and all the nasty crap you did in life is now OK, then you haven't an academic leg to stand on.


What do you think happened to this Jesus that many Historians agree existed?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425175 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text>Is not how history works. It is an arbitary standard.
<quoted text> Expert historians do. You know better?
<quoted text> BS.
<quoted text> Where are the sources from the time Alexander lived? Hannibal?
You mean besides their graves?

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#425176 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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If you want to argue that there is enough evidence to support the existance of a 1st cent. wandering preacher named Jesus then many historians will agree.
It is when you claim him to have risen from the grave, become God and all the nasty crap you did in life is now OK, then you haven't an academic leg to stand on.
My thoughts exactly. The line gets crossed when the supernatural enters the picture.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#425177 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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If you want to argue that there is enough evidence to support the existance of a 1st cent. wandering preacher named Jesus then many historians will agree.
That is all i am arguing for at this point. Atheist, agnostic, Muslem, worldwide and for centuries before. There is perhaps a handful who are Jesus mythers.
It is when you claim him to have risen from the grave, become God and all the nasty crap you did in life is now OK, then you haven't an academic leg to stand on.
Worry about all the nasty crap you did in life. I would not be Christian if i did not believe He rose from the dead and anyone who calls themselves Christian and does not believe He rose from the dead is deluded and wrong. You are right. Many historians do not believe He rose from the dead. Many here belive Jesus is a fictional character or claim ignorance. The problem many have is explaining what happened after He died given all that is known. Ehrman simply concludes he does not know what happened. He does not believe resurrection happened.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425178 Dec 8, 2012
Think About It wrote:
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What do you think happened to this Jesus that many Historians agree existed?
Died, like all people.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#425179 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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My thoughts exactly. The line gets crossed when the supernatural enters the picture.
That is based on anti supernatural assumption which apply to all events at all times. Based on the less than 1% of all there is to know you actually know.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#425180 Dec 8, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
This one isn't a music vid. It's the Atheist Experience show. I highly recommend it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =568fJHJdd3UXX
This one has nothing whatever to do with religion of any stripe.

I highly recommend it.
;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

OOWWWW!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425181 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is based on anti supernatural assumption which apply to all events at all times. Based on the less than 1% of all there is to know you actually know.
Actually, what we do not know is itself an unknown, and that can never change.

We may even know everything there is to know, but would never know that, because what is knowable is unknown until it is known. You can never know what you do not know.

"Anti-supernatural?" You love conflict so much you even have to make up aggressive concepts that cannot not exist. Natural is the opposite of supernatural, putting anti- in front of it doesn't do anything but butcher the English language.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#425182 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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My son is a wreck, he finally crashed for the night. Daughter-in-law is doing fine and the baby boy is a cute little bugger...hehe.
Just wait until grandpa gets him going...haha...paybacks!!!
He gets a little older, wire him up on sugar, video games and cartoons - and give him back.
Hehehe.

Congrats, Wiggles!

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#425183 Dec 8, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
This one isn't a music vid. It's the Atheist Experience show. I highly recommend it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =568fJHJdd3UXX
Rarely does anyone refer to Reasonable Expectation as the non-religious faith we all realize.
Interesting...thanks.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425184 Dec 8, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>He gets a little older, wire him up on sugar, video games and cartoons - and give him back.
Hehehe.
Congrats, Wiggles!
Video games are a sedative. Buy him water toys.*evil grin*

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#425185 Dec 8, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Video games are a sedative. Buy him water toys.*evil grin*
Hehehe.

I remember when my daughter was about three...

I got her a Super Soaker 2000. Told her it was okay to use it in the house, and no, the cat really liked it.

Well, I couldn't find a set of bagpipes small enough for her.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#425186 Dec 8, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, what we do not know is itself an unknown, and that can never change.
We? If what you do know is unknown then why should anyone believe you?
You can never know what you do not know.
Yes you cna. It is called learning.
"Anti-supernatural?" You love conflict so much you even have to make up aggressive concepts that cannot not exist. Natural is the opposite of supernatural, putting anti- in front of it doesn't do anything but butcher the English language.
Cannot not exist? Is that the proper use of English language?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425187 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> We? If what you do know is unknown then why should anyone believe you?
<quoted text> Yes you cna. It is called learning.
<quoted text> Cannot not exist? Is that the proper use of English language?
To the last point, no, it's not, waiting for new glasses in the mail, ordered them yesterday.

First point, what?

Second point, but you cannot know what you don't know, you can learn what you don't know, two different topics.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#425188 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is based on anti supernatural assumption which apply to all events at all times. Based on the less than 1% of all there is to know you actually know.
You call it anti supernatural assumption.
I call it religious supernatural assumption.
Your religion requires assumption for it's very existance and validity.

Based on what everyone knows.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#425189 Dec 8, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>This one has nothing whatever to do with religion of any stripe.
I highly recommend it.
;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =QYgXxIgrXMsXX
OOWWWW!
Did you know that girl is actually a plant? She's a moon flower.

I'm exposing myself as an anime geek.

I'll cover up now.

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